What a crap! Europeans do NOT hate Americans - they just hate a government that consists of corrupt people who would be convicted criminals in most other countries, whose first interest is the welfare of the US oil companies and who are trying to shape the world in a way that fits their personal interests, no matter how many (even American) people get killed along the way.

Did you ever think about why after 9/11 the US had the support and the sympathy of 95% of the world, and how GW and his cronies have turned this into the opposite within just about 2 years?

:1orglaugh Yup.

By the way, can you support a statement that the US gives aid only for personal interests? Sub-question: If you were the US President, how would you handle the tsunami disaster?

Careful, that's a petard you're looking at, and you put it there. :winkwink:

I usually hear it put, "Suicide Bomber", without the Islamic. I like the way FOX News puts it: "Homicide Bomber".

I like the way you think.
If ya need a favor Let me know:)
I am done with this thread I will leave it to the neanderthals to figure out the rest.

Cheers:)

I'll make a little quote:
"Europeans do NOT hate Americans - they just hate a government that consists of corrupt people who would be convicted criminals in most other countries, whose first interest is the welfare of the US oil companies and who are trying to shape the world in a way that fits their personal interests, no matter how many (even American) people get killed along the way." (c) maxxxxx

no more comments. hope you'll understand my point of view. if not - I'll try to answer you tomorrow. It's pretty late here now.

Holy run on sentence Batman! I'll tell you why. Because I'll bet you're from one of those great countries caught in the oil for food scandal or you are simply from a country that just does not matter and it pisses you off.

Any simpleton who believes we give aid to other countries just for their oil is using their ass as their brain.

Please don't speak anymore. Save what little dignity you have left.

Like you even spent a dime yourself, AlienQ. LOL, maybe if you focus JUST a little more on the TV while watching FOX news, you JUST might be able to live inside the TV, you will feel much more comfortable surrounded by media.

Good laugh though :thumbsup

This so-called "oil for food scandal" is not even proven yet.

It was first published The New York Sun, a tiny newspaper founded by Canadian mogul Conrad Black four years ago as a mouthpiece for the neo-cons.

Richard Perle, the most prominent of the neo-con intellectuals who misled Bush to war with Iraq, has been a long time partner of Conrad Black and a director of the Jerusalem Post, one of Black`s many media holdings.

It may be there is no scandal at all. Just another trick of the neo-conservatives to blow away anyone who gets in the way of their plans for a global empire.

Oh well, another victim of Fox News. Why don't you people just use your brains?

I'm not going to read this whole thread, but one thing you should know about those arab billionaires is they dont publically say how much money they have etc. they are the type to donate lots of money and never mention a word about it to press.

you just can't handle the truth. brainwashed idiot. try to get your brain back from your ass and look around. or probably you think that there is no countries which "matter" in the world except US?
never heard of oil for food scandal and never watched fox news though.

Nope, the media loves telling us about every single skinned knee anyone gets.

I don't think it's possible for muslims to hate anyone more then jews and christians. Besides, Buddhists have the most benign religion ever known, what is there to hate them for?

Having been there, I feel confident in saying that they are not modern nations. Of course, I haven't been to every part of every arabic nation, but from what I have seen, they're all pretty much backward shitholes. They're all monarchies and theocracies for fuck's sakes, with only a couple of exceptions.

Then they shouldn't have a problem coughing up some dough for the Indonesians at the least.

There aren't much for theocracies, but most of the people, government and laws EXTREMELY religious. Don't believe me? Try going to Saudi Arabia and telling anyone that you're not a muslim. Go with your wife/girlfriend/whatever and have her dressed as a regular American/European/Australian woman (no veil, no long and completely cocealing garment). Break ANY traditional Islamic law that would be otherwise legal in the industrialized world.

Islam is NOT a religion of peace. Pick up the Quran some time and read it. Don't ignore the nasty bits just to get to the good bits like most theists tend to do. Read the nasty bits, all of them as well as the good bits. The book is simply horrible, beginning to end. It reads like the Old Testament. Allah and Yaweh are the same god, the god of Abraham, ancient Summarian and Caananite war gods.

The phrase "homocide bomber" is about the dumbest phrase ever to describe a "suicide bomber". Why they're trying to popularize this retarded phrase is completley beyond me. Ted Kazinski was a homicide bomber, because he killed people, but did not kill himself. A suicide bomber kills others as well as himself. They commit suicide, thus "suicide" bombers.

The problem with a nation like Saudi-Arabia is that while its ruling families and their cronies are living in a perverse luxury they have kept the majority of their people poor and backward. At the same time they have cleverly managed to blame the US and the western world (where their billions of dollars are coming from) for this poverty and backwardness. This is one of the reasons why most of the 9/11 terrorists were from this country and why Osama relies on an army of Saudi-Arabians.
These guys will not survive, sooner or later radical Muslims will take over the in Saudi-Arabia. That's why the US needed to get their hands on the Iraqi oil before this happens.

except that isnt what we're talking about???! :error now go to bed while the adults talk

Maybe you should try a few more places other than GFY. It has been proven. You have google. Use it.

The fact you have never heard of the oil for food scandal shows how much of an assclown you really are. Staying in your bedroom at your parents house and getting all your info from GFY is not healthy for you.

Here's a hint: there's more news sources out there than fox news.

Even if it was proven, where do you see that the oil for food program was a pure European invention? And even if there was a "scandal", how does it compare with the fact that Bush and the US media lied you into a war based on absolutley false and manufactured intelligence about WMDs in Iraq. Let's divert from that massive reality that in any healthy country would bring down a government - and flout this lame "scandal" against your old allies who just happened to be right about every single thing they said about Iraq and their non existent WMD and nuke programs while the US government and media were completely wrong. This will work on ignorant BUSHBOTS but no one else in the world who sees this "scandal" for the steaming pile of crap that it is.

so much ignorance in this thread

everyone should stick to talking about things that they actually know about

Does tinkerbell sprinkle you with fairy dust in that dreamland you live in?

Is this all you can come up with? Now, that's really weak... :1orglaugh

And you still didn't manage to find a reply for this one:

I gave you the answer. Work on your reading comprehension.

Because they reject Allah, of course. Why do you think that Muslims hate people?

If your help- and clueless bubbling is what you consider an answer I better go and waste my time elsewhere.

Arabs want to be left alone.

Jordan is in Asia :upsidedow

the stupidity coming from AlienQ is amazing....dammm and to think I actually agreeded with some of the stuff this guy said before on other threads..

Ya might not agree with it, I dont agree with it eaither but its true.
The fundamental rule set of Islam does not tolorate Co-exhistance and that is why you won't see Middle Eastern Nations helping in the latest disaster.

Unless your convinced Jordan is not a Middle Eastern Region well then just pull up a chair at the library and see for yourself!

By the way I can tell frm your post your bristling with intelligence.

Sig placement

:1orglaugh

if something is called "scandal" in US it doesn't matter that it's considered to be scandal by another countries.
I guess your mom shouldn't let you watch tv so much. just imho.

Saudi arabia has forked over something like 50 mill

Just so you know :moon

I heard the Dutchies donated 24 milion EUROS and only 16 milion live here...

AlienQ, you're a fucking retard. First you say that none of the arab countries are contributing, and then when someone points out that some are, you try to make out that they're not really arab nations or some such nonsense? What the fuck?

Last i saw, Saudi donated 10 million. Their population is about 25 million. Compare the donation and population size, and it's the equivalent to the US donating about 118 million dollars. That's significant. Yeah, the US is donating more, but it's not a fucking compeition. Japan has a smaller population than the United States and it's donating 500 million compared to the United States' 350 million. Does that somehow mean that America isn't pulling it's weight? You're one stupid fuck. Compare Japan's population and contribution to that of the US and it'd be the equivalent of the US donating over a billion. Like i said, it's not a competition. Every country that contributes should be congratulated. You're just an ignorant fucktard shamelessly using a disaster to further your own narrow minded point of view.

OMG, even after ALL the links and facts provided to your idiotic thread, you are STILL talking out of your ass.

Really amazing, thanks for joining my ignore list.

Red herring. We're not talking about how we got into Iraq, we're talking about whether the UN can be trusted with aid money in light of the Food for Oil scandal.

BTW, this has been proven and has been all over every media source. If you don't know about it, then you don't know shit about shit and you should bow out just because you obviously don't even read headlines, let alone anything else.

Which of those countries I named are you from? Please enlighten us, brainiac.

Read the whole thread pal, maybe after you catch up with the discussion you can put your ass back in your mouth where it belongs.

Saudi and Kuwaiti donations yes...
But there donations are consistant oh but they are supposed American Allies.
What about the rest of the Middle East region?

You dont have an opinion.
Read the thread ass fuck.

45 bucks per barrel at 11M barrels per day. = 10M? 50M? in AID?
Please.

Correction: 2 million barrels per day at 45 bucks per barrel.

And you think 10M is justifiable? Idiots.

OPEC:

Algeria, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Venezuela.

Discard Indonesia and Venezuela and Iraq and you have OIL rich countries in the poor house? Again Please.

Sorry you folks dont like it, but this thread just points out Middle Eastern Countries greed. Tough to swallow I know...

I was bit surprised myself, infact it never occured to me until I looked around.
You take how much money these countries make and how little of it is distributed to there own people its an atrocity.

44 bucks per barrel 2Million barrels a day = $88000000.oo per day

8.8 Million dollars PERDAY Times 30 days = $2640000000 A Month.

264 MILLION dollars a month folks just from OPEC Nations alone and they cough up 10m? 50M? Whatever.
Crude oil the shit aint even refined.

Fox News again? Just because your neo-conservative media make something a scandal it doesn't mean there IS one.

And, Saudi Arabia is your only example? Remember that Saudi Arabia has to keep up appearances because Mecca and Medina are there. Try a thought sometime.

Take my Saudi Arabia example and apply it to ANY middle east country, except Israel.

264 Million dollars a month from OPEC Middle Eastern countries and 10M-50M is not goin on the cheap according to the 1 post mongrels thus far.


Goto love the "Welcome to my ignore" retard posters in this thread.
Why I bet they think are getting a deal at the gas stations to! :1orglaugh

The middle East Needs more Sandra's.

Sandra Bullock donates $1 mil for tsunami
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movi....ap/index.html