It may be a cool thing to own, but not really worth much. The bottle is in poor condition. That takes the value way down.

1. wine does not get turned every month
2. sediment has zero to do with the fill level
3. go here: http://www.finestwine.com type in lafite, scroll down to 1963 look at the price, notice there's no 1964, look at 1965, look at the price. 1964 was a horrible year.

your telling me wine does not get turned everymonth? sure it does and theres a reason for it... the yeast and the cork

thats what I'm telling you.
stored wine does not get turned, there is no yeast in finished wine and turning it is irrelevant to the cork.
yes, I'm telling you that and I'm never wrong. :winkwink:

I bet you 10k that wine gets turned? how much you wanna bet? you wanna take me up on that offer?

went to check out the danza bucks...

you know under site listings... only one of the two sites is hyper linked, right?

it's cool that you don't do Trials or Pop Ups... but only paying $25 per join ... on a $29.95 recurring sale?

if you havent' looked at multi month memberships you defaintely should.

I am wrong your right.. it's champaign I am thinking of and it's called riddling.. my bad.... wine stored on either on it's side or better yet upside down... sorry bot that

Triple X Cash does the same thing. Though to be fair to them, they pop an exit trial (I believe its $8) from the join page.

Neither are very attractive offers for affiliates when there are plenty of other places that will pay more.

25 on a 29 recurring sale is decent... I would go with rev share if I were any affiliate cause you make more...

I don't want to take your money.
I collect wine, you might talk to someone who collects wine. :)

no exit trials here .... don;t need em.. although someone I got some traffic going to has like 2 of em.. had a sale on like a 9 dollar trial the other day saw a big 3 dollars in my stast... ouch

bro did you see my post under that... I was wrong you were right... I admit when I am wrong... which is rare but I will admit it :thumbsup had to call my grandfather up who sells many many bottles to all the casinos and so forth... he told me I was wrong so I am wrong on that part... but the bottle was on it's side... that I do know... and in a cellar at the wharehouse... as far as the year bein shitty we are going to look in the vintage guide on monday and find out for sure... that comes from rothschild itself... you may be right on that may be wrong I guess monday will let us know... on another note... still a nice bonus on top of the money they make don;t you think?

9k+ posts has anyone proved you wrong yet?

No, you don't get it. The exit trial still pays out $25.

no I do get it... but I really hate PPS to be honest... I make much more on rec share programs.. and so would most people if they did it....

I didn't see your post. I knew you were thinking champagne, I was looking for a link to show you.
As I said in my first post, I think anyone mocking you adding a bonus to what you are already paying is an idiot. :winkwink:
I also know about the wine because 1964 is a year I would collect if it was worth it. (lots of good shit was born that year) :winkwink:
I have a bottle that was recorked at the chateaux that I think might be worth drinking but otherwise, its just a very cool novelty.

I don't agree, but I don't promote a whole lot of per sign up. And we relatively few affiliates that push us that way. The bulk of our business is rev share. But it's one way to gauge the confidence of a rev share in it's abilities to retain. If they are willing to go into the red a little bit on PPS, I always feel like i'll do better with them long term if I do rev share.

Most programs make a decent amoutn of extra money through cross sells, upsells and members area ads... so it was just surprising to see that you're able to make it work on a 50-65% rev share and a pps that works out to 83% of initial.

I know different sites, different traffic, different types of affiliates... what works for one program doesn't necessarily mean it will work for another. But if your rev share is that great... why wouldn't you want to offer the webmaster a little more on per sign up ... and get them to take that... and keep more of the money for yourself long term ? unless of course the rebill rate isn't that great and you just can't afford to do it

bro if your a collector.. let me know on anything your looking for I can get it..... like I said family sells the shit outta it and I can get it at cost for the wholeseller... just let me know.... like I said were goin gto look into the vintage a little more.. I will post detales why or why not if it's good or not... but like you said... fuck anyone who mocks an added bonus.. greedy bastards... fuck we'll cork this mutherfucker then and sip on it over some aged steak

I can afford it and I got some reasons on why I do't I think 25 bucks myself on a sale is great... it's 25 bucks for pushing traffic... and they keep that even if the surfer charges back... or whatever... I notice alot of the bigger programs even if they do pay on a trial they only give you the money if the surfer stays... it's like webmasters like seeing stats not checks... I say look at the checks not the stats... but if you want to hear my reasoning behing my madness hit me up ICQ...

not bad at all :thumbsup

hehe, ok.
2001 shafer hillside select. I'd love a 6 pack in the wood when it comes to market.

Certainly the payout should take into account costs (default and fraud included). That's true of rev share as well. But there are less risks with it. Just givign you my 2 cents ... as a possible affiliate ... I see a per signup lower than that join price and I start to wonder why.

no doubt.. I am all abot open fourm... and some stuff you can hit me up on we are very generous on things... such as working deals out... if you are serious about sending decent traffic this way I will work a deal with you you can't refuse

Dirty_DS owes 12clicks $10k

Haha thread gone wrong.
Bump.

nope ;)
Originally Posted by 12clicks
I don't want to take your money.

nice promo , I like the Idea !! :thumbsup