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BlueQuartz 03-03-2005 02:11 PM
what a silly little game

Meloman 03-03-2005 02:12 PM
While I can understand where you're comming from I still have to disagree about giving away so much info.

Inevitably you're going to now have people crawling all up and down your shit and someone will eventually figure out what you do.

Let's face it... all the stuff about "pre selling" is cool and all. But it's just talk about how you market your product. The true secret is your TRAFFIC SOURCE!

Welcome to all of GFY trying to hunt down your traffic sources and copying you.

Regardless... congrats on the great numbers and good luck with 2005! :thumbsup

P.S. Back when I first started I was a lot lot more open about my numbers as well....then I learned my lesson, lol

PornHero 03-03-2005 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meloman
While I can understand where you're comming from I still have to disagree about giving away so much info.

Inevitably you're going to now have people crawling all up and down your shit and someone will eventually figure out what you do.

Let's face it... all the stuff about "pre selling" is cool and all. But it's just talk about how you market your product. The true secret is your TRAFFIC SOURCE!

Welcome to all of GFY trying to hunt down your traffic sources and copying you.

Regardless... congrats on the great numbers and good luck with 2005! :thumbsup

P.S. Back when I first started I was a lot lot more open about my numbers as well....then I learned my lesson, lol
lol, people can hunt my shit down all they want but the key is that they dont see the breakdown of where the money is coming from... I have a shitload of sites/pages/domains. etc... and I find it follows the 20/80 rule... 20% of what you put out there makes 80% of your income... you all dont know which 20% it is... 80% of the stuff I built since 1997 makes me no money :(

that's why one of the keys of this business is to just continue to build, submit, learn, build, submit, learn etc... the big thing now is pornblogs.. and if you dont have one yet you are missing out... what? too busy with your sorry-ass TGP? fuckin make a pornblog already and add it to TopPornBlogs

Meloman 03-03-2005 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
lol, people can hunt my shit down all they want but the key is that they dont see the breakdown of where the money is coming from... I have a shitload of sites/pages/domains. etc... and I find it follows the 20/80 rule... 20% of what you put out there makes 80% of your income... you all dont know which 20% it is... 80% of the stuff I built since 1997 makes me no money :(

that's why one of the keys of this business is to just continue to build, submit, learn, build, submit, learn etc... the big thing now is pornblogs.. and if you dont have one yet you are missing out... what? too busy with your sorry-ass TGP? fuckin make a pornblog already and add it to TopPornBlogs
That's good that you you're diversified enough from over the years that it would be hard to figure you out. I know exactly what you mean about having old ass shit from back in the day that isn't performing anymore but is still up.

But there are lots of other ways of figuring you out. People inevitably talk. Your best performing sponsor my have a big mouth and may mention to someone what you do etc.. Sometimes it's innocent slip of the tongue. But you can bet your ass people here are now wondering about you

I just thing it's much smarter to be low key and only let people you're actually networking at shows etc.. know what you do. This just comes from my personal experience. Hopefully you won't figure out the same lesson :2 cents:

Honestly I'm not trying to bash you or anything and think it's very cool that you've been successful at this. You've probably just inspired 90% of GFY with your figures.

Again congrats and good luck to a prosperous 2005 :thumbsup

PornHero 03-03-2005 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meloman
That's good that you you're diversified enough from over the years that it would be hard to figure you out. I know exactly what you mean about having old ass shit from back in the day that isn't performing anymore but is still up.

But there are lots of other ways of figuring you out. People inevitably talk. Your best performing sponsor my have a big mouth and may mention to someone what you do etc.. Sometimes it's innocent slip of the tongue. But you can bet your ass people here are now wondering about you

I just thing it's much smarter to be low key and only let people you're actually networking at shows etc.. know what you do. This just comes from my personal experience. Hopefully you won't figure out the same lesson :2 cents:

Honestly I'm not trying to bash you or anything and think it's very cool that you've been successful at this. You've probably just inspired 90% of GFY with your figures.

Again congrats and good luck to a prosperous 2005 :thumbsup
well thanks for the advice but here is ANOTHER juicy tidbit I have learned from my experience....

Dont' worry.

Yup.. that's my piece of advice... don't worry.. Anytime you see your sales take a dip... everytime a server goes down... anytime one of your top sponsors shuts down, don't worry...

Now make sure you understand me... I didnt say not to freak out, fix that shit asap and learn your lesson... but what I mean is dont be afraid that you are going to have to go back to your job at McDonalds... it takes some practice but don't run your business like a paranoid little adultwebmaster.

Let me a bit more clear -- Freaking out over a specific problem is short-term and lasts for the life of the problem - that's understandable...worrying is your day to day paranoia that your sales are dropping, you are doing shit in the search engines, you are never going to make it in this business... etc etc.

Just like any business, this business has its ups and downs. Your business/income wont go straight up, but you have to stick to it, keep building and learn new things whenever you can.

I have realized that sex sells and we are still just at the very beginning of a massive market that is emerging. There are many people who have never even been to a pornsite yet. I know that may seem hard to believe but its true. And with the quality sites that are coming out many guys are going to start making it a habit of having 3-4 memberships at their favorite sites that deliver. and I wanna be there to tell them about the new ones coming out.

My point is I can lose all my shit tonight, today, right now, and I'd be back baby. This business is continually evolving and even I STILL learn something new EVERYDAY... get it? I remember before days/weeks would go by before I learned something new... now i learn something new and worthwhile everyday...

phew, these rantings of an adultwebmaster are gettin' me tired I am going to go get something to eat.

markyman 03-03-2005 03:25 PM
I did $4200 In January $250 in costs. not bad!

PornHero 03-03-2005 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by markyman
I did $4200 In January $250 in costs. not bad!
sweet! don't you just love this business? :thumbsup

debbieN 03-03-2005 03:28 PM
I guess the begining question was.
 
In Jan I made $21,616 in profit from just TPG submission for my own site.

That includes recurring sales at 47.2% for the first month.

markyman 03-03-2005 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by debbieN
In Jan I made $21,616 in profit from just TPG submission for my own site.

That includes recurring sales at 47.2% for the first month.
Yes but the sweet money is keeping me from pushing my self to finish college! doh!!

CheeseFrog 03-03-2005 03:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
I totally understand what you are thinking... first of all I said "most" of my secrets... there are some firstcome/firstserve secrets that I am not going to give out cause that creates competition for me... but there are certain secrets I will give out at http://www.iadultwebmasters.com ... I like the feeling of giving back and its a fucking big internet man... even if everyone on here started using my secrets to success I would still be making money. The breadth of the the internet is HUGE. FUCKING MASSIVE. I am making this amount of money and there are niches I HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED YET. I mean if I had the time to apply all I know to many more niches I would be making bank...
I'm waiting for you to tell us about tiny classified ads :)

PornHero 03-03-2005 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by markyman
Yes but the sweet money is keeping me from pushing my self to finish college! doh!!
Finishing college would be a great thing. Work on your business parttime while you finish school. This business isnt going anywhere. :2 cents:

robfantasy 03-03-2005 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
I'm waiting for you to tell us about tiny classified ads :)
is that supposed to be a joke?

PornHero 03-03-2005 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
I'm waiting for you to tell us about tiny classified ads :)
lol, actually, let me tell you about little tiny classified ads...

they're called Adwords...

and they work... :winkwink:

videopass-chick 03-03-2005 03:39 PM
i wish all of us a better year this year.

clickclickclick 03-03-2005 03:39 PM
are u on icq, i wouldnt mind talking to u if u have a moment.

PornHero 03-03-2005 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by clickclickclick
are u on icq, i wouldnt mind talking to u if u have a moment.
ask and ye shall receive

icq 161-550-420

if anyone else wants to add me to their icq go ahead, then make a post here and I'll authorize you :thumbsup

will76 03-03-2005 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
I've always wanted to do this ever since I started noticing gfy threads where people refuse to tell exactly how much they make a month.

I always thought "what's the big deal with saying how much you make?":

This is my thinking process:

1. NOONE CAN CONFIRM IT: first of all, noone knows if the number you say is bullshit or not, so why not say a number?

Plus incomes vary based on how much time/energy you put into your business. I'd prefer to be making $1000 a month spending 2 hours a month on my business rather than making $5000/month but working 80 hours a week.

2. IF YOU EXAGGERATE: Only you will know that you are living a lie... Not a good thing if people who make about the same level you claim want to do business with you.

3. IF YOU SAY A SMALLER NUMBER: Then you are missing out on opportunies that may arise from people who are looking for webmasters making good money in this business.

Some people say its none of anyone's business how much I make... true dat... but I believe by stating your income you are promoting the stage you are at in this business and will attract likeminded people at the same level to network with you. Like they say, many times its not what you know but who you know. You really have nothing to lose.

If you make more than me then good for you :) You serve as inspiration for me to keep building my business. If you make less than me then I hope I serve as an inspiration to you as a number of people did when I was coming up. :thumbsup

I have never been one to follow rules or traditions that I didnt agree with if I didnt have to.

And this is one tradition I dont agree with.

So that is why I am about to post exactly how much money my statsremote says I made for the month of January 2005.

Keep in mind my total expenses for the month were about $1500 which includes my servers, bandwith, and domain names.

WHEN THIS THREAD HITS 50 replies I am going to post my statsremote income for the month of January. I will not post again 'til then.

Go ahead and post your guess if you like :thumbsup
Hey, I will post how much I made just from clickcash. I don't agree that what people make can not be confirmed. It seems easy enough to have someone that the person trust (and is generally trusted by everyone here) to log in and look at their stats and see if he is telling the truth.

The ONLY reason I post my stats is to provide credibility for clickcash and my site www.teamclickcash.com . If I wasn't promoting team clickcash I wouldn't mention what I make, which is what I have been doing the previous 5 years before I started the site a few months ago.

I want people who are advertising other programs and making $200, $500, $1000, $5,000+ a week to see what I am making and realize they can double their income or more if they made the switch to clickcash. I have tried a lot of other companies in the past and I didn't make half with them then, that I am making now with clickcash.

Total Made in Jan from Clickcash: $82,760.00 that's not counting referral money and I also left 1/1/05 and 1/30 - 1/31/05 off because they feel into other pay periods. I have about 20 - 30% in expenses.

If you want to give clickcash a try and see if your sales can boost up then contact me through my site. Nothing to lose. Before I switched to clickcash I was making not much more then most people here. It wasn't the traffic or my design holding me back, it was my the other compaies I was working with. The right affiliate company makes all the difference in the world.

will76 03-03-2005 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
well thanks for the advice but here is ANOTHER juicy tidbit I have learned from my experience....

Dont' worry.

Yup.. that's my piece of advice... don't worry.. Anytime you see your sales take a dip... everytime a server goes down... anytime one of your top sponsors shuts down, don't worry...

Now make sure you understand me... I didnt say not to freak out, fix that shit asap and learn your lesson... but what I mean is dont be afraid that you are going to have to go back to your job at McDonalds... it takes some practice but don't run your business like a paranoid little adultwebmaster.

Let me a bit more clear -- Freaking out over a specific problem is short-term and lasts for the life of the problem - that's understandable...worrying is your day to day paranoia that your sales are dropping, you are doing shit in the search engines, you are never going to make it in this business... etc etc.

Just like any business, this business has its ups and downs. Your business/income wont go straight up, but you have to stick to it, keep building and learn new things whenever you can.

I have realized that sex sells and we are still just at the very beginning of a massive market that is emerging. There are many people who have never even been to a pornsite yet. I know that may seem hard to believe but its true. And with the quality sites that are coming out many guys are going to start making it a habit of having 3-4 memberships at their favorite sites that deliver. and I wanna be there to tell them about the new ones coming out.

My point is I can lose all my shit tonight, today, right now, and I'd be back baby. This business is continually evolving and even I STILL learn something new EVERYDAY... get it? I remember before days/weeks would go by before I learned something new... now i learn something new and worthwhile everyday...

phew, these rantings of an adultwebmaster are gettin' me tired I am going to go get something to eat.
Porn Hero you seem like a nice cool guy, would love to work with you. Would you ever considering sending a little traffic to clickcash. If you try it you will be amazed and wont be long you will be switching all your ads over to them.... :thumbsup

squizzel 03-03-2005 04:23 PM
added you to icq, wouldnt mind chatting :)

flashfire 03-03-2005 04:24 PM
I made $4000 and am not ashamed of that

will76 03-03-2005 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by debbieN
In Jan I made $21,616 in profit from just TPG submission for my own site.

That includes recurring sales at 47.2% for the first month.

Hey debbie, I use to run memberships sites while back. Was making abouthalf that (profit) each month. Then I switched to free sites and advertising clickcash and made 4x more what I was making with my membership sites.

Membership sites are nice because of the rebilling BUT sucks when you get 1,000's of rebills and the 3rd party biller goes under, or you lose your own merchant account, and say good bye to hundreds of thousands of future rebils. I also noticed that people were signing up 4x more to the free site then they were from my paysite, from the same exact traffic. So even if you charge $30 and you keep $25 after processing fees, and your average rebill is 3 months (which is high) you net $75 before other expenses from 1 signup. With the same traffic I am getting 4 free signups @ $40+ a peice. So thats a total of $160 i make opposed to $75 with the same traffic. And i get paid right away, you wait for 3 months to make that plus a lot longer for holdbacks. Now there is the time factor as well, free sites no more customer service emails, no more billing emails, no more webmaster support period. Also a lot less updates, no more updating members area and shooting pics or buying them, however you do it.

So Free sites do sell a lot more then paid, they make a lot more, and they give you a lot more time to make a lot more money~! :thumbsup

just my :2 cents:

PornHero 03-03-2005 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76
Hey debbie, I use to run memberships sites while back. Was making abouthalf that (profit) each month. Then I switched to free sites and advertising clickcash and made 4x more what I was making with my membership sites.

Membership sites are nice because of the rebilling BUT sucks when you get 1,000's of rebills and the 3rd party biller goes under, or you lose your own merchant account, and say good bye to hundreds of thousands of future rebils. I also noticed that people were signing up 4x more to the free site then they were from my paysite, from the same exact traffic. So even if you charge $30 and you keep $25 after processing fees, and your average rebill is 3 months (which is high) you net $75 before other expenses from 1 signup. With the same traffic I am getting 4 free signups @ $40+ a peice. So thats a total of $160 i make opposed to $75 with the same traffic. And i get paid right away, you wait for 3 months to make that plus a lot longer for holdbacks. Now there is the time factor as well, free sites no more customer service emails, no more billing emails, no more webmaster support period. Also a lot less updates, no more updating members area and shooting pics or buying them, however you do it.

So Free sites do sell a lot more then paid, they make a lot more, and they give you a lot more time to make a lot more money~! :thumbsup

just my :2 cents:
fuck man, that's some sweet stuff, I wanna roll wit' u :)

I just emailed you. :thumbsup

PornHero 03-03-2005 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flashfire
I made $4000 and am not ashamed of that
right on, the truth shall set you free.

I encourage anyone else that is thinking of posting how much they made, what ever it is, to go ahead and do it. There is noone here you need to worry about impressing.

Its so fucking liberating.

Weez be havin' an InComeing Out party!

:GFYBand

clickclickclick 03-03-2005 04:56 PM
ur on my list, but u have autho. maybe later

PornHero 03-03-2005 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by clickclickclick
ur on my list, but u have autho. maybe later
whats your icq#?

pornguy 03-03-2005 05:01 PM
Well good for you. I just hope that you are saving the shiny pennies.

detoxed 03-03-2005 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimp Dough
1) Don't worry about what others are making...
2) Get a life!
one of the dumbest things said in the history of the english language

DarkJedi 03-03-2005 05:10 PM
Why won't click cash set up epass payments ?

PornHero 03-03-2005 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornguy
Well good for you. I just hope that you are saving the shiny pennies.
Hey pornguy, I'm likin' www.HOUSEWIVESCASH.com

do you run it?

will76 03-03-2005 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Why won't click cash set up epass payments ?
I dont know but if you refer me I dont see why I can get the check and pass you the money :) no bullshit, but not sure they would like that. I would have to check. I wouldn't mind depositing it and sending it through epassport to you.

Adultnet 03-03-2005 06:05 PM
looks good.. nice cash and good site :)

V_RocKs 03-03-2005 06:05 PM
Nice blog. Great insites.

quiet 03-03-2005 06:12 PM
300K in Jan

AdultNex 03-03-2005 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76
Hey debbie, I use to run memberships sites while back. Was making abouthalf that (profit) each month. Then I switched to free sites and advertising clickcash and made 4x more what I was making with my membership sites.

Membership sites are nice because of the rebilling BUT sucks when you get 1,000's of rebills and the 3rd party biller goes under, or you lose your own merchant account, and say good bye to hundreds of thousands of future rebils. I also noticed that people were signing up 4x more to the free site then they were from my paysite, from the same exact traffic. So even if you charge $30 and you keep $25 after processing fees, and your average rebill is 3 months (which is high) you net $75 before other expenses from 1 signup. With the same traffic I am getting 4 free signups @ $40+ a peice. So thats a total of $160 i make opposed to $75 with the same traffic. And i get paid right away, you wait for 3 months to make that plus a lot longer for holdbacks. Now there is the time factor as well, free sites no more customer service emails, no more billing emails, no more webmaster support period. Also a lot less updates, no more updating members area and shooting pics or buying them, however you do it.

So Free sites do sell a lot more then paid, they make a lot more, and they give you a lot more time to make a lot more money~! :thumbsup

just my :2 cents:
Wait a second... The sales you are earning from Clickcash are simply from promoting freesites to sites like Jays-xxx-links, etc?

:upsidedow

Vitasoy 03-03-2005 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quiet
300K in Jan
Now that's what I'm talking about :pimp

BVF 03-03-2005 06:38 PM
thanks. I bookmarked it.

PornHero 03-03-2005 06:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quiet
300K in Jan
wow, quiet posted in my thread. I am truly honoured. I'm not kidding.

For all you newbies... I remember a long time ago seeing a statement/stats that quiet posted and THAT was motivation for me. :thumbsup

All hail King quiet.

:bowdown

will76 03-03-2005 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdultNex
Wait a second... The sales you are earning from Clickcash are simply from promoting freesites to sites like Jays-xxx-links, etc?

:upsidedow
I get traffic from everywhere not just from free link list sites. When I say advertise Free sites, I am talking about my pages that I send my traffic to, which consist of single solo girl pages to full blown sites with free content that advertise ifriends.

Rorschach 03-03-2005 07:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
I remember a long time ago seeing a statement/stats that quiet posted and THAT was motivation for me.
ditto... respect.

TheJimmy 03-03-2005 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meloman
...
P.S. Back when I first started I was a lot lot more open about my numbers as well....then I learned my lesson, lol
amen to that...

I still remember finding out what you do and going 'like cool!' (and also like CRAP, your setup is a lot of work ;))

.......but I agree, you def gotta keep those type of setups on the d/l...keeping your edge as long as you can is a good thing while figuring out the next pot of gold setup...

Violetta 03-03-2005 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
ask and ye shall receive

icq 161-550-420

if anyone else wants to add me to their icq go ahead, then make a post here and I'll authorize you :thumbsup
Thanks for a nice thread PH! You seem to be a nice guy. Threads like these motivates me!
Might hit u up on ICQ regardings blogging.

stepmind 03-03-2005 10:34 PM
We r waiting for the promise =)
 
We r waiting for the promise =)

polish_aristocrat 03-04-2005 04:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stepmind
We r waiting for the promise =)
for what? :Oh crap

adonthenet 03-04-2005 05:09 AM
nice! =)

iforgotmyscreenname 03-04-2005 06:29 AM
wheres my free ipod?

PornHero 03-04-2005 06:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iforgotmyscreenname
wheres my free ipod?
Dude,

I'm sooo sorry, I was packing it up to send to you and I went to take a piss and I dropped it by accident!

http://www.pornhero.com/free-ipod.jpg

Do you still want it? Post your mailing address if you do.

Merrioc 03-04-2005 02:14 PM
Wow real content on GFY that doesn't involve asking the question
'would you hit it' or attempting grosss/scare you....

hey PH added you to ICQ

Rui 03-04-2005 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
For all you newbies... I remember a long time ago seeing a statement/stats that quiet posted and THAT was motivation for me. :thumbsup
Exact samething here :thumbsup

LeeNoga 03-04-2005 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merrioc
Wow real content on GFY that doesn't involve asking the question
'would you hit it' or attempting grosss/scare you....

hey PH added you to ICQ

I would hit the IPOD :1orglaugh


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