Sig placement.

I am hapy for them. Best of luck!

we using verotel on some of our sites and have been great! For EU Webmasters rock as we can now bill in multi currencies - the dollar has fucking crippled us this past year and its good to bill joe user in pounds or euros - and from what I see they have cleaned the house so to speak. :thumbsup

Verotel stopped processing for them at the same time or about the same time CCBILL did... neither processes for them and I do believe that Verotel locked the accounts of the affiliates and the sites themselves (keeping the money for 6 months).

But.. the kudos goes to Visa, not the processors.. VISA is the one that told them to knock it off or they can't process VISA cards anymore.

Well, let's clarify something here, CCBill stopped billing for "teen model sites" on Nov 15, 2002 which was exactly the time that Visa/MC came town and hammered CCBill and iBill with the new IPSP regs (I know because I had just started working for Verotel a month earlier and we were jumping for joy because so many iBill and CCBill webmasters were moving over) and then all those sites moved over to GloBill, WebsiteBilling and Globosale until they ended up getting kicked off the porch, at which time they all moved over to Verotel. And btw, Verotel stopped billing for those sites also when the IPSP regs came to Europe in March 2004 - not so recent past.

Given the history, it may be a bit presumptuous to call it a "clear business decision" which implies that CCBill stopped processing for those types of sites on their own accord. I'm not bashing CCBill or anything just trying to paint a clearer picture as to what most likely prompted that clear business decision. :winkwink:

:2 cents:

So, what you're saying is that CCBill, Ibill, Verotel, you guys all would have kept processing undersage modeling sites if you could ... but Visa laid the smack down.

:disgust

lol shit.

-P

And some processors never made that deal with the devil. Congrats on what prompted YOUR clear business decision.

John

This is good news, we're going to signup with you next. :2 cents:

^^ naive reasoning to say the least...

Yes, I know two - you want one? :winkwink:

Basically court action in the EU.. in *almost* any country (there are exceptions!) is far easier than dealing with, eg iBill in Florida.

There are also orgs and oversight authorities who are interested in intervening in instances of the conduct of their members - and don't stand for the shit saga that occurred with people like iBill.

iBill had no "org" or oversight authority - it's like trading in the wild west.

verotel for life :thumbsup

50 thriving processors

:thumbsup

tony404 - BTW Tony... on "offshore". I have absolutely no doubts I'd rather be dealing with *any* offshore corp re processing than iBill. There is no comparison.

Apart from the stupid naive US processors who have "used" offshore to perform what was little more than a scam - I have never, ever encountered anything less than professional conduct from offshore lawyers and corps and would prefer dealing with them any day.

They have been the *cream* in proper conduct over years and thru this, we have become good friends - ie people you can trust. I can't say the same for "onshore" lawyers, "third party processors" and many others.

Saw this press release from Verotel today:

http://www.verotel.com/t23000-en.html

Webmaster funds are held in escrow, so if Verotel ever did go down the tubes you should be paid in full up to the last transaction.