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Manowar 04-01-2005 02:13 PM

that sucks rick :(

tranza 04-01-2005 02:14 PM

You should really call the cops.

DarkJedi 04-01-2005 02:14 PM

holy shit.

Western Union should have clued you in.

Rich 04-01-2005 02:16 PM

Now that's a quick 50.

JSA Matt 04-01-2005 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
Has anyone double checked where it was actually picked up at?
I ask, cause even if you put out a given payout location, that is only an expected one and it still can be picked up elsewhere.

Can't you see that online?

After Shock Media 04-01-2005 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSA Matt
Can't you see that online?

Honestly I do not know. I have never really used their online site much.

TheLegacy 04-01-2005 02:19 PM

I hate it when someone gets taken like you Rick - you have been a respected business man in this industry for some time and to get taken like that is an insult and shows that no one has any style left. Its like walking by and scratching with your key a porche or viper. Just not cool.

Good luck in tracking these people down - and appreciate the warning so that no one else gets taken. Hit me up if I can be of any help.

CDSmith 04-01-2005 02:23 PM

It's easy to find out when, where and by whom the money was picked up. One phone call to WU and they can tell you from their system. The person picking up the $ has to show proper ID which is recorded.

I would be surprised if cops can't nail the culprit and get Rick his money back.

Rick Latona 04-01-2005 02:23 PM

Who knows a Jeff Cooper?

[14:47] QbWISEMAN: ok
[16:05] QbWISEMAN: I cant post on GFY
[16:06] QbWISEMAN: but you can post he TRIED to rip us off as well as sex search
[16:06] QbWISEMAN: he also goes by the name mistery on ICQ as well
[16:06] QbWISEMAN: wish I woulda known dude
[16:06] RickLatona: done
[16:08] QbWISEMAN: let me see if I can find his wire info for you as well
[16:08] QbWISEMAN: That dumas fuck just went offline
[16:09] QbWISEMAN: I am giveing Raj your aim/ICQ they are haveing lawyers fo after him
[16:10] QbWISEMAN: here is his wire info as well
[16:10] QbWISEMAN: Bank Details:

Wachovia Bank
4150 SW 64th Ave
Davie, Florida 33314
Bank Phone: 954-467-5571
Account# 1010102665727
Routing# 063000021
[16:13] QbWISEMAN: I even talked to his kids
[16:14] RickLatona: wow
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: you can post that wire info as well
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: and let em know he also uses Mistery as nick
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: and I am looking for home address
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: and phone #
[16:15] QbWISEMAN: CRAZYINDIAN [1:13 PM]:
[16:15] RickLatona: jesus. he isn't really trying to hide, eh?
[16:15] QbWISEMAN: same wire info sex search used
[16:16] QbWISEMAN: 754-246-4106
[16:16] QbWISEMAN: there is his phone #
[16:17] QbWISEMAN: used to work
[16:17] QbWISEMAN: 754-214-7480
[16:18] QbWISEMAN: or that feel free to post all this as I cant post
[16:20] QbWISEMAN: it is jeff cooper
[16:20] QbWISEMAN: thats who he told arlo to write a check out to
[16:20] RickLatona: is that a real person?
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: jew cash
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: that is who he told hooper to write check out to
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: you can post that
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: and yes it is a real person

Rick Latona 04-01-2005 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy
I hate it when someone gets taken like you Rick - you have been a respected business man in this industry for some time and to get taken like that is an insult and shows that no one has any style left. Its like walking by and scratching with your key a porche or viper. Just not cool.

Good luck in tracking these people down - and appreciate the warning so that no one else gets taken. Hit me up if I can be of any help.

That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me in a long time. Thank you for that.

Rich 04-01-2005 02:27 PM

Wow, Jeff Cooper aka jewcash has scammed a lot of people from this board. I can't believe he's still going.

These assholes never fucking quit, it's been the same 2 or 3 scammers preying on everyone for years.

Manowar 04-01-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona
Who knows a Jeff Cooper?

[14:47] QbWISEMAN: ok
[16:05] QbWISEMAN: I cant post on GFY
[16:06] QbWISEMAN: but you can post he TRIED to rip us off as well as sex search
[16:06] QbWISEMAN: he also goes by the name mistery on ICQ as well
[16:06] QbWISEMAN: wish I woulda known dude
[16:06] RickLatona: done
[16:08] QbWISEMAN: let me see if I can find his wire info for you as well
[16:08] QbWISEMAN: That dumas fuck just went offline
[16:09] QbWISEMAN: I am giveing Raj your aim/ICQ they are haveing lawyers fo after him
[16:10] QbWISEMAN: here is his wire info as well
[16:10] QbWISEMAN: Bank Details:

Wachovia Bank
4150 SW 64th Ave
Davie, Florida 33314
Bank Phone: 954-467-5571
Account# 1010102665727
Routing# 063000021
[16:13] QbWISEMAN: I even talked to his kids
[16:14] RickLatona: wow
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: you can post that wire info as well
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: and let em know he also uses Mistery as nick
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: and I am looking for home address
[16:14] QbWISEMAN: and phone #
[16:15] QbWISEMAN: CRAZYINDIAN [1:13 PM]:
[16:15] RickLatona: jesus. he isn't really trying to hide, eh?
[16:15] QbWISEMAN: same wire info sex search used
[16:16] QbWISEMAN: 754-246-4106
[16:16] QbWISEMAN: there is his phone #
[16:17] QbWISEMAN: used to work
[16:17] QbWISEMAN: 754-214-7480
[16:18] QbWISEMAN: or that feel free to post all this as I cant post
[16:20] QbWISEMAN: it is jeff cooper
[16:20] QbWISEMAN: thats who he told arlo to write a check out to
[16:20] RickLatona: is that a real person?
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: jew cash
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: that is who he told hooper to write check out to
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: you can post that
[16:21] QbWISEMAN: and yes it is a real person

Search for jewcash on here. LOTS of stuff about him a few months back.

Rick Latona 04-01-2005 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Wow, Jeff Cooper aka jewcash has scammed a lot of people from this board. I can't believe he's still going.

These assholes never fucking quit, it's been the same 2 or 3 scammers preying on everyone for years.

Has no one filed criminal charges? How could he still be around if that's his real name and he's really in Fort Lauderdale? You can count on me hunting him down, for sure. Let's see how he's doing next week.

undermyspell 04-01-2005 02:39 PM

from what I see he now goes by JeffFL and the number is 312347772... I have a list longer than my arm of ways he fucked me over. From copywrite violation to broken contracts for sale of property. I don't seem to have his phone numbers anymore but Juicylinks probably does. He owned thedailywebmaster.com, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.com and some more.. here is the whois from dailywebmaster

Registrant:
NetMarketz.com
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US

Domain name: THEDAILYWEBMASTER.COM

Administrative Contact:
Account, Support Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US
954-687-2869
Technical Contact:
Account, Support Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US
954-687-2869

kmanrox 04-01-2005 02:39 PM

that's shitty to hear and thank you for exposing him...

undermyspell 04-01-2005 02:40 PM

I did a lot of searching for him but couldn't come up with a lot of info about him personally... the interesting thing I found was that his "alleged" address above is coincidentally in the same building and suites in some cases as several "health" product type companies

cool1 04-01-2005 02:49 PM

That really sucks that it happened to you or anyone else.
I hope you get him and get him good

CybermedAndy 04-01-2005 02:58 PM

No shame Rick, happens to everyone who does business on a frequent basis.

XPays 04-01-2005 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelDollarsAndy
No shame Rick, happens to everyone who does business on a frequent basis.

no it does not. if ANYONE who is not GOOGLE, OVERTURE, ie. reputable demands prepay- then fine, but some random unknown on icq with a fake dumas reference?

were you prepaying for spam? what was the origin of the traffic that was being prepaid for? do you think hustler, or friendfinder, or nastydollars would get scammed like you just did? No, because they would stick to their guns and tell the icq'r to send traffic and earn the privilege of prepay :2 cents: .

btw, jeff cooper is not jewish.

let us know how your lawsuit goes :thumbsup

Rich 04-01-2005 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
btw, jeff cooper is not jewish.

We know, however he was "jewcash". He's a scammer and a bigot.

Platinumpimp 04-01-2005 03:25 PM

Fucking assholes, it sucks Rick. Let these bastards work for their own money.

Lemme see, they are failures and try to get money by stealing it.

:disgust

Rich 04-01-2005 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona
Has no one filed criminal charges? How could he still be around if that's his real name and he's really in Fort Lauderdale? You can count on me hunting him down, for sure. Let's see how he's doing next week.

I've asked the same question. Good luck taking this asshole down once and for all. :thumbsup

Eventually, all scammers fuck with the wrong guy. For that Eric Schulmseki or whatever, it was Pimpdog.

XPays 04-01-2005 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinumpimp
Fucking assholes, it sucks Rick. Let these bastards work for their own money.

Lemme see, they are failures and try to get money by stealing it.

:disgust

more like praying on the gullible, amateur and those who fail to do proper due diligence. sure, icq is great for checking references :1orglaugh The phone would have been an educated bet if it was so important to start the new account off with a prepay. I am finding it hard to have sympathy for the victim here admittedly and am biased.

Rich 04-01-2005 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
more like praying on the gullible, amateur and those who fail to do proper due diligence. sure, icq is great for checking references :1orglaugh The phone would have been an educated bet if it was so important to start the new account off with a prepay. I am finding it hard to have sympathy for the victim here admittedly and am biased.

lol, this coming from xpays, "the shittiest sponsor online since 95".

Tala 04-01-2005 03:35 PM

My god, you've got to be kidding. Is jewcash really that damn stupid????

Jesus fucking christ on a tin plated crutch eating a cracker with bananas. Jeff Cooper is known as "jewcash" and is a KNOWN scam artist.

I'm so very sorry this happened to you, Rick. I can't wait until someone either puts this prick behind bars or just beats the everloving shit out of him. Both maybe? Please?

Lensman 04-01-2005 03:36 PM

That bites, trusting guys like Rick are a rare breed, too bad he got burned.

dig420 04-01-2005 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Damn dude I thought ya were a hustler and not so gullible...

didn't "ya" get publically fired once for saying stupid shit on this board? Do you ever learn?

Is that really somebody getting hit by a car in your sig?

XPays 04-01-2005 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
lol, this coming from xpays, "the shittiest sponsor online since 95".

we are very regular - every day right after the coffee and plop

Tom_PM 04-01-2005 03:41 PM

That does suck.. Thanks for posting the info, Rick.
Maybe you can call WU and one of the prompts on there should be to see if it's been picked up yet. If so, maybe it provides details as well.

Good luck!

dig420 04-01-2005 03:42 PM

and for the record I got burned for 1200 using the same method, sounds like the same guy. You make deals every day, sometimes you get lazy.

dig420 04-01-2005 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
more like praying on the gullible, amateur and those who fail to do proper due diligence. sure, icq is great for checking references :1orglaugh The phone would have been an educated bet if it was so important to start the new account off with a prepay. I am finding it hard to have sympathy for the victim here admittedly and am biased.

yeah that's almost as gullible as signing up to x program to make 30 per join instead of y program to make 35.

When are you going to start suing everybody with your patents Evan?

shuki 04-01-2005 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona
INDUSTRY SCAM ALERT ? I and most likely others got taken.

This is a difficult post for me to make because I?m embarrassed, humiliated and angry but I?m honor bound to warn you all about what happened. I was scammed out of 4000 dollars and I just found out that other people have been getting hit as well.

The short version of the story is that a guy on ICQ that goes by King Fuck and tells you his real name is Jeremy talked me into sending him money for prepaid joins to our sponsor program. I asked him if he had references and he mentioned Greg Dumas who many of you know is as good of a reference as you can get. He told me he?d have Greg contact me. A gregduma4981 on AIM hit me up and vouched for him. Funny thing is that it wasn?t the real Greg. I sent the money and lost the money.

This guy clearly knows Greg and knows the industry. I swear I talked to who I thought was Greg for 20 minutes and never put it together and I know Greg! This happened last week and I?ve been just patiently waiting for the joins. Last night at the Phoenix Forum I had dinner with Greg and asked him how Australia was. He told me he?s never been to Australia and I knew right there in a second that I had been scammed.

I won?t post the names of the other companies that got taken because I don?t know if they want it disclosed but Greg and I thought I?d be best to get the word out to you all as fast as possible.

Other information that might help you is that I sent it via Western Union to an Allison Greenberg in Fort Lauderdale who would have used 2 forms of government issued identification to pick that much money. I don?t know if it is someone that he knows or some hooker off the street that he got to do the dirty work but I know that person exists. I seriously doubt he had two fake IDs.

I?ll post updates as I get them.

Sorry to hear about it Rick. Hopefully the board can pool resources and help locate this crook.

dig420 04-01-2005 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
we are very regular - every day right after the coffee and plop

and settling the criminal lawsuits.

XPays 04-01-2005 03:46 PM

any young and intelligent companies in the business who are learning from rick's mistake, stick to your guns and do not get greedy. set your terms and conditions and stick to them.

XPays 04-01-2005 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
and settling the criminal lawsuits.

we have never had a criminal lawsuit and that statement is actionable without a retraction. try me!!!!!

dig420 04-01-2005 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
we have never had a criminal lawsuit and that statement is actionable without a retraction. try me!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anyone want to do business with this guy keep your lawyer in your back pocket, you could need him at any moment!

Persius 04-01-2005 03:49 PM

fucked up :S

XPays 04-01-2005 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
yeah that's almost as gullible as signing up to x program to make 30 per join instead of y program to make 35.

When are you going to start suing everybody with your patents Evan?

Actually the first blitz is to offer technology in a turn-key solution and help people expand:

Here is some descriptive pitching I am working on:

In just a few weeks, us guys who invented "Affiliate Pooling" and the "Virtual Affiliate" model will unfurl a revolutionary plugin for affiliate programs called "XTXN" aka XTransaction. We have so many sites and integrated processors after 7 years in this business that even dhd is in there

Our turnkey solution will have you Affiliate Pooling with our Affiliate BlackBox and increase the variety and stability and profitability of your business overnight. Many sites and stores etc. are integrated into XTXN and you can insert as many as you like and subtrack and payout your affiliates. There are so many applications to increase your bottom line with XTXN that it will be the platform you piggyback onto your network forever. It can plug right in with Nats and MPA and RiverStyx and all of the options out there including your own proprietary network. You also have built in to XTXN a patent license to our '660 patent http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf and XTXN is directly addressed in our claims and Patented Already.

Anybody who wants to be first to expand the shit out of their affiliate program with no hassle whatsoever call 415-331-2496 or email evan @ xpays
right now! We have 7 participating sponsors already and can add many more. We already have 125 sites and multiple sextoy and dvd stores integrated. The XTXN system can also be used for many other functions. The Affiliate Black Box can be used for independent 3rd party auditing, integrating multiple merchants within a single affiliate program, and more....


---

Otherwise we have had to successful enforcements so far. We will protect our unique business model as necessary.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-01-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
didn't "ya" get publically fired once for saying stupid shit on this board? Do you ever learn?

Who is really the stupid one in the case of being fired because of stupid shit posted on GFY? Doh! There loss.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
Is that really somebody getting hit by a car in your sig?

No.
Its somebody getting hit twice!
2 For 1 Tour design special this month!

Rich 04-01-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
we are very regular - every day right after the coffee and plop

I don't doubt it, I've never seen so much shit come out of one company before.

XPays 04-01-2005 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anyone want to do business with this guy keep your lawyer in your back pocket, you could need him at any moment!

more like you can trust that we walk the straightest line in the industry because we have high profile sites and a long term approach.

dig420 04-01-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
Actually the first blitz is to offer technology in a turn-key solution and help people expand:

Here is some descriptive pitching I am working on:

In just a few weeks, us guys who invented "Affiliate Pooling" and the "Virtual Affiliate" model will unfurl a revolutionary plugin for affiliate programs called "XTXN" aka XTransaction. We have so many sites and integrated processors after 7 years in this business that even dhd is in there

Our turnkey solution will have you Affiliate Pooling with our Affiliate BlackBox and increase the variety and stability and profitability of your business overnight. Many sites and stores etc. are integrated into XTXN and you can insert as many as you like and subtrack and payout your affiliates. There are so many applications to increase your bottom line with XTXN that it will be the platform you piggyback onto your network forever. It can plug right in with Nats and MPA and RiverStyx and all of the options out there including your own proprietary network. You also have built in to XTXN a patent license to our '660 patent http://essociate.com/patents/US6804660.pdf and XTXN is directly addressed in our claims and Patented Already.

Anybody who wants to be first to expand the shit out of their affiliate program with no hassle whatsoever call 415-331-2496 or email evan @ xpays
right now! We have 7 participating sponsors already and can add many more. We already have 125 sites and multiple sextoy and dvd stores integrated. The XTXN system can also be used for many other functions. The Affiliate Black Box can be used for independent 3rd party auditing, integrating multiple merchants within a single affiliate program, and more....


---

Otherwise we have had to successful enforcements so far. We will protect our unique business model as necessary.

Or everyone can just go right to the affiliate program they want to promote and make more per join.

All I want to know is how many of your affiliates are you going to sue?

TheLegacy 04-01-2005 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undermyspell
from what I see he now goes by JeffFL and the number is 312347772... I have a list longer than my arm of ways he fucked me over. From copywrite violation to broken contracts for sale of property. I don't seem to have his phone numbers anymore but Juicylinks probably does. He owned thedailywebmaster.com, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.com and some more.. here is the whois from dailywebmaster

Registrant:
NetMarketz.com
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US

Domain name: THEDAILYWEBMASTER.COM

Administrative Contact:
Account, Support Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US
954-687-2869
Technical Contact:
Account, Support Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US
954-687-2869

I had the same telephone and icq for him.. he tried to sell me webmaster lists to which I refused. he said he owned the board hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.com that doesnt work anymore.

wish I could help more

XPays 04-01-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
Or everyone can just go right to the affiliate program they want to promote and make more per join.

All I want to know is how many of your affiliates are you going to sue?

actually how many companies will we enable to expand wildly is a better question. you still are upset that i exposed you 5 years ago?

bernie took money from us for sexpays.com without informing his partners or affiliates and i still have the emails from his partners and clients here. he took the money and ran.... not my problem but it happened and is truth.

the Shemp 04-01-2005 03:55 PM

9715 W. Broward Blvd
#118
Plantation, FL 33324
US

that address is a mail box center

dig420 04-01-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
more like you can trust that we walk the straightest line in the industry because we have high profile sites and a long term approach.

didn't you get your ass sued off by AOL and microsoft for spamming? Is that part of the 'long term approach'?

dig420 04-01-2005 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays
actually how many companies will we enable to expand wildly is a better question. you still are upset that i exposed you 5 years ago?

bernie took money from us for sexpays.com without informing his partners or affiliates and i still have the emails from his partners and clients here. he took the money and ran.... not my problem but it happened and is truth.

yep I'm just one of the many happy recipients of an Xpays lawsuit. What lucky webmaster is next in line Evan?

XPays 04-01-2005 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
didn't you get your ass sued off by AOL and microsoft for spamming? Is that part of the 'long term approach'?

we were whitelisted by aol all the while dummy. we settled amicably with microsoft and do biz with them, while simultaneously protecting our affiliate database and not ratting on the accounts they were after.

XPays 04-01-2005 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
yep I'm just one of the many happy recipients of an Xpays lawsuit. What lucky webmaster is next in line Evan?

post it stupid- a c&d is not a lawsuit :helpme

ytcracker 04-01-2005 04:00 PM

hey rick hope you guys catch him and exact justice


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