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smack 04-12-2005 01:25 AM
fuck a telescope. i'll get a bag of shrooms and go wherever, and whenever they take me. much more interesting way.

arnette 04-12-2005 01:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRL
You theoretically can not note and grab a moment in the present. As soon as you do it is past and you are now in its future. Thus the present is an illusion within our mind because in an infinity each moment is an infinity upon itself.

The big bang theory is thus inoperable in quantum physics. Time and space are in an infinite continuum. To have a big bang you need a beginning. To have a beginning you need a moment before the beginning. Thus you can not have a beginning because there is no such thing. It is all a perpetual continuum occuring within the infinity of itself.

:)

i disagree with the last part, there are two scientific theories that explain the situation, the first is that out universe exists inside another type of system (ie string theory, my theory etc) and the other is that time is a property of the universe, not the other way round

arnette 04-12-2005 01:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Who the fuck told you that dumb shit!

The speed of electricity has nothing to do with light you fucking moron:
click here: http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/miscon/speed.html

The speed of thought has nothing to do with the speed of electricty either, jizm breath.

Thoughts travel ACROSS electric current as energy.
And even this has nothing to do with my theory.

My SOT(speed of thought) is not about how fast you can fucking think something...it's about how fast you can travel across a distance simply by thinking about it. We are talking about travel here!!!

Restated for the moron: I can think I am on a planet 9 miliion light years away in a flash; but it will take a beam of light 9 million years to fucking get there.

Is this really that fucking hard to understand?



You don't want a postcard, you want to go there :sadcrying
Go there in your fucking mind in a dream just like you did when you got your first and last piece of pussy. Until you woke up it felt real didn't it?
sorry i misunderstood, i though " Time Travel is Possible....scientific proof!!!" may be something about time travel and may also contain something scientific. what you are saying is that if you think that you are somewhere else, you are. Let me prove it to you.


Feel anything? nope, i didnt think so, my thought of my foot up your arse mustnt have worked.

blackmonsters 04-12-2005 02:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smack
fuck a telescope. i'll get a bag of shrooms and go wherever, and whenever they take me. much more interesting way.
Thank you for summing up my entire theory in less than 25 words.

TGP owners must love you to write gallery descriptions.


Listen people: what he just said is really all I said in all this posting.


Time travel will be "drug induced".

Shrooms sound like a damn good start to me. :thumbsup

ModelPerfect 04-12-2005 02:23 AM
Anybody remember the dude that made millions on the stock market in just a few weeks with negligible startup capital? When accused of insider trading, he said he was from the future and knew which stocks to invest in. The interesting thing was there was absolutely zero record of this guy before he started investing... Not saying I believe him, but it's interesting.

Also, didn't they already theorize that particles can travel in time? I can't find the reference, but they fired a particle from point A to point B and during the travel, energy was emitted equal to that theorized by a particle and antiparticle colliding and cancelling each other out. The antiparticle would have been created by the particle going faster than the speed of light and thus traveling back in time. The second particle was theoretically created by the particle decelerating under the speed of light. One particle and one antiparticle collided and produced the energy while leaving one particle to still make it to point B. It's been several years since I read that, but that's the gist of it...

reynold 04-12-2005 02:24 AM
I think it's possible but it can be scary.

JFK 04-12-2005 02:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .?.
Well it's still a very simplistic view of the complexities involved.
it may be simplistic but understandable , but on the other hand it opens up more questions than it provides answers :2 cents: and here you are viewing the past :winkwink:

blackmonsters 04-12-2005 02:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arnette
sorry i misunderstood, i though " Time Travel is Possible....scientific proof!!!" may be something about time travel and may also contain something scientific. what you are saying is that if you think that you are somewhere else, you are. Let me prove it to you.


Feel anything? nope, i didnt think so, my thought of my foot up your arse mustnt have worked.

Dude; you are hoping for the TV version of time travel.
TV is produced to entertain the masses of ignorant fucks in this world.
I don't own a fucking TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Get more sophisticated about what time travel would be.
Nobody will ever go back in time and physically kick Hitler in his ass.
Stuff like that is for entertainment only.


My time travel feels just as real as being for real.
Viewing into the future and the past is time travel, and wanting to physically interact with the future/past is fantasy.


See, if you could really go back into the past and interact and this could affect the future then chances are that in the future you would not exist any more since any change in history will alter it's entire paradigm.

So going back into the past would be a bad idea.
So just view into the future and see the armored car drop the bag with 3 billion dollars(inflation, ya know) at the the street corner and then go to that corner and just wait for the future and interact when they drop that money.

chodadog 04-12-2005 02:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
A powerful telescope pointed at a object in space that is one light year away is viewing the state of that object as it appeared one year ago. The viewer has "traveled" to one year in the past of that object. To view further into the object's past requires moving the telescope further from the object; say two light years away. (yep that is a problem)
That's actually a pretty interesting thought. Assuming you had telescope powerful enough to look that far, and could travel a lightyear in a single hour, or day, or week, then you could watch history as it unfolds and see exactly what happened.

Limited only by a lack of technology. Nice theory. I like it. But isn't this just the theory of relativity?

ModelPerfect 04-12-2005 04:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chodadog
That's actually a pretty interesting thought. Assuming you had telescope powerful enough to look that far, and could travel a lightyear in a single hour, or day, or week, then you could watch history as it unfolds and see exactly what happened.

Limited only by a lack of technology. Nice theory. I like it. But isn't this just the theory of relativity?
Why do you need a powerful telescope? The naked eye will suffice. What do you think we're doing when we look up at the stars? We're seeing the light that was emitted from the past...we're not seeing the current state of the stars. If the star was 10 light years away, then the light emitted took, by definition, 10 years to get here. So we're seeing the star as it was 10 years ago; as far as we know, it might be implodded by now... The thing is we're used to watching the past and relating that with the present, but that's not really the case.

A powerful telescope wouldn't allow you to see further in the past, unless it was moved further away faster than the speed of light, as noted before, or aimed at a reflection of the original light (hint!). Purely from our point of view, the telescope would only allow you to see closer towards the object's present.

blackmonsters 04-12-2005 05:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chodadog
Nice theory. I like it. But isn't this just the theory of relativity?
Well, I'm not exactly ready to equate my theories with those of Einstein, but I'm sure there are some similar concepts.
It would be pretty hard for me to come up with any plausible theories without at least touching some of Einstein's.

Interesting thing though: I had taken a few IQ test in the past for some jobs and even though they were not allowed to give out scores, I was told on each occasion that I had the highest score they'd ever seen.
I never put much weight on that, I mean who knows if the other applicants were just weak or not. But I recently took another IQ test out of curiosity and got to see my score this time. I shit in my pants when I was told what Einstien's IQ score was. All I will say about it is that Einstien would have enjoyed talking to me.

quantum-x 04-12-2005 06:15 AM
I couldn't be fucked debunking you, we all know it's bs

quantum-x 04-12-2005 06:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Well, I'm not exactly ready to equate my theories with those of Einstein, but I'm sure there are some similar concepts.
It would be pretty hard for me to come up with any plausible theories without at least touching some of Einstein's.

Interesting thing though: I had taken a few IQ test in the past for some jobs and even though they were not allowed to give out scores, I was told on each occasion that I had the highest score they'd ever seen.
I never put much weight on that, I mean who knows if the other applicants were just weak or not. But I recently took another IQ test out of curiosity and got to see my score this time. I shit in my pants when I was told what Einstien's IQ score was. All I will say about it is that Einstien would have enjoyed talking to me.
word, yet you hang out on gfy because?

quant 04-12-2005 08:00 AM
Interesting thread. I basically agree that time travel is only possible in an astral sense. There are some misconceptions...

First, particles can travel faster than the speed of light. On Earth, light does not travel at 186,000 miles per second. In water, it travels even slower. So it's possible to accelerate a particle faster than the speed of light in a medium where light travels considerably slower than c. When this happens, a magnificant blue or green glowing light emerges and is equivalent to a visible shock wave. It's quite intense -

Time is really the difference between chaos and harmony. It may sound like a simplistic definition, but consider that scientists view time as entropy, or as energy being disorganized through heat. This means they view the world as constantly progressing towards chaos (2nd law of thermodynamics). I highly disagree with this, as the purpose of anyone's life is to create more stability, and that purpose is shared by the universe. Plus you can see this in particle accelerators. Particle physics is actually a legitimate hoax created by physicists who dreamt up explanations of why a pion turns into a muon and then an electron. A glimpse of an omega, a tauon, a muon or such particle is simply a flash back in time.

As for the mind, it technically operates at reverse time or negative entropy. It exists in a constant state of macroscopic quantum coherence. There is no speed of thought, because one thought can be slow while 1000 thoughts in the same quantum wave function is both 1 and infinite at the same time. It is the idea of silience of the mind, focus, or left-right brain synchronization. Electric current is very slow, normally it barely moves at all.

For the acceleration comment, you must first eliminate acceleration (and thus friction) to be able to physically exceed the speed of c in a vacuum. Eliminating acceleration is a key to opening Pandora's box.

Finally, the big bang theory is not inoperable in quantum physics. People think of quantum physics as some mystical phenomenon that is only recent. It's not. Understanding of quantum mechanics is what proved the Big Bang. Furthermore, the speed of light is not a limit, rather it is a divider. Most importantly, everything I am saying is supported by religion/spirituality.

Prior to the Big Bang, there was no time and All That Is existed as 1. Creation was the act of sharing the infinite light with itself. In order to do so, part of the infinite had to condense into form, to create a vessel to receive light. This is when the Godhead condensed, which is literally a roadmap back to the source. At the beginning, the universe was full of dense, chaotic energy, which as it spread out became more coherent and stable. This was the beginning of time. Their is no end of time, only infinite time.

This is when we have reached an ultimate balance between form and source, a state of universal superconducting fields (where the Godhead leads us). In this reality, electrons may exist at a more evolved state with a cosmic bosonic nature. It would be mind induced molecular manufacturing on an intense and interactive level. A Kundalini awakening of the universe; a realization that we are much more than you or I.

This world would be like a constant shifting of unified quantum wave functions, where thoughts are the construct of perception and physical reality. Heaven isn't in the stars, it's in our mind and on Earth.

quant 04-12-2005 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KRL
I think the mind is more powerful than any of us realize. I think it is capable of things we can't even comprehend. I don't think our mind is really in our mind per se. I think its more of a termination point for a connection from some other dimension, spiritual plane or higher frequency energy we don't see but that is surrounding our physical self.

I've noted on many of my posts how I've been studying metaphysics for decades. By doing so, my own abilities have gotten to the point where sometimes it gets a bit unbelievable. We all have preminitions, but mine go beyond that. I have experiences now where I sense and see future events happening in extreme detail.

So is this a form of time travel or just an advanced state of intuition? I don't really know. It could be either. But how can we see the future if it hasn't happened yet? The only answer can be that Einstein's theories of time and space are exactly right. The past, the future and the now are all actually an eternal now where there really is no time and there really is no space in the way we think of it traditionally.

If this is true than we have the ability to alter the past, the present and the future and we can travel to the past or future, because we aren't really going there we are already there.

If you look into a deep space telescope you are looking at what was billions of years ago, not what is now. However, what was billions of years ago could be us looking at ourselves and now we are 5 billion years forward while simultaneously see 5 billion years back thus creating the eternal void moment that is without time or space.

This is why my beliefs are strong that death is merely a transformation of our energy force not an end to it. You can not destroy something in a state without time and without space because the physics of this do not allow for anything but a perpetual past, present and future in simultaneous harmony with each other.
I guess I should be fair and say that KRL has some very good points. I can also understand his rationalization of the Big Bang, as it is impossible to capture any one moment. However, that FIRST moment -- 'the beginning' is what is allowing us the ability to eventually capture one moment infinitely (or infinite moments one at a time).

Yes, our mind is like a dumb terminal in a sense. It is the connection to the hyperluminal world (or termination point of). We can ignore it (and believe death is death) or embrace it (and discover life is eternal).

You are right about the past and future, along with every possible event already existing. When you are consciously thinking you are either in the past or the future, but never in the infinite moment that is the past or future (which few have experienced). A somewhat cheap analogy would be a multiplex theater and the ability to get up and watch/experience other movies anytime. Although it's hard to quantify the personal experience of a past moment, so changing it wouldn't alter the person's zero-point personality. Meaning that superficial events that happened to us may never be erased, but our ultimate energy state will exist without them and because of them.

Finally, great explanation of the 'eternal void moment'. When we are looking up in the sky, we are actually looking into a reflective mirror of sorts. What has happened above, is happening inside us. There is no outerspace independent of what is inside our mind. It's impossible to be millions of miles away from something that is inside us.

arnette 04-12-2005 08:33 AM
there are some seriously dumb people in this thread.

time travel is possible in einsteins universe!

nojob 04-12-2005 08:37 AM
nice read. But is it true, who knows?

Pretty_Lara 04-12-2005 08:51 AM
hehe listen to relict radiation and you understand theory of traveling in time :)

Nismo 04-12-2005 08:57 AM
after reading this thread, i have realized that I need to go back to November 22, 1955 and take the Sports Almanac from Griff Tannen to prevent dangerous changed to the real 1985.

chodadog 04-12-2005 09:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
Why do you need a powerful telescope? The naked eye will suffice. What do you think we're doing when we look up at the stars? We're seeing the light that was emitted from the past...we're not seeing the current state of the stars. If the star was 10 light years away, then the light emitted took, by definition, 10 years to get here. So we're seeing the star as it was 10 years ago; as far as we know, it might be implodded by now... The thing is we're used to watching the past and relating that with the present, but that's not really the case.

A powerful telescope wouldn't allow you to see further in the past, unless it was moved further away faster than the speed of light, as noted before, or aimed at a reflection of the original light (hint!). Purely from our point of view, the telescope would only allow you to see closer towards the object's present.
I didn't explain myself clearly. You'd need a telescope to see things clearly. I mean sure, we can look at a star and see it and what we're seeing is X number of years old. But being 2 lightyears away from earth, you wouldn't be able to see earth. You'd see the sun for sure. But let's just assume you could even see the planet, you certainly wouldn't be able to see it with any great detail. Imagine being able to look at dinosaurs. To actually see them. That's why you'd need the uber-scope. Hope that clears things up.

Blackmonsters; i just mean that it sounds like what you've done is just taken Einstein's existing theory of relativity and applied it to another situation. Pretty cleverly done too, if you ask me.

HpicAnn 04-12-2005 09:24 AM
too long for me to read!!

blackmonsters 04-12-2005 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HpicAnn
too long for me to read!!
Yeah...like you actually got something else to fuckin' do....Nugga PLEASE!!! :1orglaugh

Homer 04-12-2005 09:42 AM
haha that's funny :)

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project_naughty 04-12-2005 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
I will prove here that time travel is absolutely possible.

1. First I will define what I mean by "Time Travel".

* Time travel : The ability to "view" a specific place and time in space other than the space and time in which you reside. (of course, if someone recorded the event on a camcorder then just push play..hehehehe)

-- View : One need not be there physically; but merely visually; so forget about Buck Rogers and getting into a gun fight with Jessy James kind of shit.

2. The device to view(travel) into the past was invented 1000's of years ago by north Africans specificly the Moors. It is called the telescope.
(please don't give me shit about some european inventing it because that's like saying Columbus discovered America when 5 million Indians and Mexicans were already fucking here...so just skip that shit)

3. Viewing(traveling) the future is done with a process I have defined as Rapid Image Logic(RIL).


4. I only need prove time travel for times less than one year to prove it is possible.


5. The fastest possible speed is "the speed of thought".

6. "Total Recall"



-------- Explanation ------

A powerful telescope pointed at a object in space that is one light year away is viewing the state of that object as it appeared one year ago. The viewer has "traveled" to one year in the past of that object. To view further into the object's past requires moving the telescope further from the object; say two light years away. (yep that is a problem)

Ah...so yes, there is a problem with viewing the past on earth because we need to place the telescope away from earth. But remember how I defined it as viewing a specific place and time in space and not specifically earth.

So we can absolutely view(travel) into the past of an object in space.

-- Faster than the speed of light:
Others have said achieving speeds faster than light is needed for time travel...True for viewing the past on earth. If I want to view the state of earth 500 years ago today then I need to place the telescope 500 light years away from earth...kinda hard to do that before lunch unless I can launch a telescope at 500 times the speed of light.

---LASER---
How can I see 500 year old light??????

laser is an acronym for :Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation. (I went to the same college as the inventor Charles Hard Townes)

The light source from the planet will be amplified thru a powerful laser so that actual images can be viewed.



--- The Future ----
* Can only be viewed with RIL (Rapid Image Logic)

RIL is my own defined process where a place and time is selected and all possible images of this time and space are exaughsted. These images must be logicaly processed to remove the impossible and or illogical. The remaining Image from the elimination process, will not perfectly, but will accurately view the future.

Of course this would require an image processing computer that is faster than anything on earth at this time.


-- Speed of thought (SOT):
RIL will only be achomplished on a machine that can process images at the speed of thought. SOT is the fastest speed to ever exist.

Proof : I can think that I am on planet Pluto before a beam of light can get there.

--- Dreams --
Composed of complex images and characters involved in sophisticated behavior and events.

Dose off for 2 secs and create what seems like a 10 min movie.
Proof that the brain can function at excellerated speeds durring sleep!!!



***** FINAL SOLUTION *******

1. If RIL can work for the furture it will also work for the past(no more telescope).
2. So RIL is the full solution for time travel.
3. SOT can only be achieved by the brain so the brain is the time travel machine.
4. The brain must excellerate to perform RIL; so the state of time travel will be sleep as in the movie "Total Recall"


** Da Bomb **
Time travel will be a mental state that will absolutely be drug induced ("much like this post"...Just thought I'd get that joke out of the way before the morons chimed in)


*** FUN ****
You can actually have a gun fight with Jessy James since the bullet he puts in your ass will only exist in your dream.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The telescope was in fact invented in Europe, not by the Moors as you state.

Pleasurepays 04-12-2005 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Well, I'm not exactly ready to equate my theories with those of Einstein, but I'm sure there are some similar concepts.
It would be pretty hard for me to come up with any plausible theories without at least touching some of Einstein's.

and of course there is the fact that you are talking about abstract ideas... and they were talking in mathematics... so unless you brush up on your addition and subtraction, you will never touch on anything that matters...

either post the math ... or start a cult.

Rinaldo 04-12-2005 11:02 AM
thanks for the interesting read

AphEX 04-12-2005 11:25 AM
I watched a great movie the other day about time travel, its called "primer"
you guys should check it out

ADL Colin 04-12-2005 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
What????? No critics!!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Time travel will be a mental state that will absolutely be drug induced
So is this thread

Dagwolf 04-12-2005 11:43 AM
They sky will be blue in the future.
I see blue.
Therefore, I see the future.

C'mon, man, you can do better than this!

ADL Colin 04-12-2005 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters
All I will say about it is that Einstien would have enjoyed talking to me.
Einstein received many letters from quacks. He did enjoy them.

brand0n 04-12-2005 11:47 AM
im from the year 3024

i came back to this point to tell you all this method will not work

idiot

ADL Colin 04-12-2005 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRL
The only answer can be that Einstein's theories of time and space are exactly right.
Nope. Einstein's formulation of General Relativity does not include quantum mechanics therefor the results breaks down at the quantum level.

Nismo 04-12-2005 12:05 PM
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Susan F 04-12-2005 12:09 PM
This has been one of the most interesting threads in a while...

KRL 04-12-2005 12:14 PM
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blackmonsters 04-12-2005 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Susan F
This has been one of the most interesting threads in a while...
Cool...here's another one that I think you should read:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=454185

quantum-x 04-12-2005 03:05 PM
http://www.recongames.com/images/Mentok.jpg
..wait.. wait.. I'm getting something..
Oh yeah, no maths or physics in your theories.

false alarm.

blackmonsters 04-12-2005 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum-x
http://www.recongames.com/images/Mentok.jpg
..wait.. wait.. I'm getting something..
Oh yeah, no maths or physics in your theories.

false alarm.

(RIL+SOT/2)/MPOR=AAC...



RIL : Rapid Image Processing SOT: Speed Of Thought
MPOR: Manditory Point Of Repetition
AAC: Attracts Asshole Critics who can produce no evidence to the contray either with ot without the quaifications they state is required of my evidence.


This is your brain:)
This is your brain after my theory:food-smil


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