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bigdog 04-12-2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
He won't answer...that's how Negroes are.

Dugmor is not a negro,consider they type of money he proably makes and where he lives.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
this can be said about lots of content.

I dont t5hink stealing content is cool,, just because its "used"

Someone, not you guys, owns the rights to those photographs. Not the person in them.

I never understand how people can sit here and think that content like this is any different than content that people shoot themselves.

you guys stole that "butt girls" pics and put them up on pages, and made sign ups, and you guys do it with lots of content.

this shit is no different than the regular old content stealers on the Hun.


Youre quite right and i know in the end im wrong because the content isnt mine. But personally i see a difference between putting these pics up on a free page and stealing sponsor content or a photostudio content to use it on the hun but you dont have to agree with that :)

SmokeyTheBear 04-12-2005 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck
No, a page doesnt end up accidenlty on someone elses server...period. Dont steal my page and i wont contact your host.


I explained that part , what if he made you a mirror , or planned on buying one of your domains and figured you wouldnt care/would be flattered ..

Either way , on ANY OTHER page you might have a point, but on a page about a hacked cellphone with nude pics you dont own, i dont think your argument would get too much sympathy :)

LadyMischief 04-12-2005 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck
Its not about the pics, those arent mine, everybody can take those and everybody is doing so.
Its about the keywords and just the fact that i considered him a friend. That page is so simply to make, who does he copy and paste it and use the same words? Its lame.

And i said from the start it was something simple and no big deal.


So let me get this straight... You are freaking because someone "stole" your template, yet you are using stolen images? And there is NO SUCH THING as "Public domain", those images are still copyrighted and you are still liable for using them, especially if you are profiting from them.

Uh huh.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oliphant/oa048.jpg

Fletch XXX 04-12-2005 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Youre quite right

I know.

And guess what, there are celeb gatherings near me and I have attended and even have celeb photos, guess what - you cant steal them. You may THINk they are for public use, but I own exclusive rights to them, even if they are celebs.

I dont know why people think this is any different than if I stole your assterdam content.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:09 AM

Fletch, just wondering though, maybe by now those pics are hotlinked on your forum...and i bet in the past several pics were hotlinked on your forum...do you delete those?

What about the tons of pics you hotlinked on this forum...

Is that any different?

LadyMischief 04-12-2005 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
this can be said about lots of content.

I dont t5hink stealing content is cool,, just because its "used"

Someone, not you guys, owns the rights to those photographs. Not the person in them.

I never understand how people can sit here and think that content like this is any different than content that people shoot themselves.

you guys stole that "butt girls" pics and put them up on pages, and made sign ups, and you guys do it with lots of content.

this shit is no different than the regular old content stealers on the Hun.


Actually from a legal standpoint, if there is no valid model release related to the photos, they DO belong to who is in them, and without a valid license agreement, anyone using the images can be sued not only for copyright infringement, but also using the person's image without permission, profiting from them (the person profiting from them can be sued for all the profit related to the use of the pictures, PLUS damages) and more.

I agree 100% about not being different from stealing from the Hun. It's still illegal. The only thing Franck has going for him is he is outside the US, otherwise the 2257 requirements associated with adult images alone would put him in jail for a long time. Definitely a bad thing for the industry in general.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief
Actually from a legal standpoint, if there is no valid model release related to the photos, they DO belong to who is in them, and without a valid license agreement, anyone using the images can be sued not only for copyright infringement, but also using the person's image without permission, profiting from them (the person profiting from them can be sued for all the profit related to the use of the pictures, PLUS damages) and more.


Yup, youre right.

Fletch XXX 04-12-2005 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Fletch, just wondering though, maybe by now those pics are hotlinked on your forum...and i bet in the past several pics were hotlinked on your forum...do you delete those?

this has nothing to do with me.

ask lens the same.

and no, my board is not filled with people making paris hilton threads or vida whatever.

i have not seen the pics to be honest, just going on what is said here.

my board (DMPM) has nothing to do with this. public message boards are a bit dfifferent than actually taking pics and making money with them. ;)

LadyMischief 04-12-2005 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Fletch, just wondering though, maybe by now those pics are hotlinked on your forum...and i bet in the past several pics were hotlinked on your forum...do you delete those?

What about the tons of pics you hotlinked on this forum...

Is that any different?


Posting images to a forum can and may fall under "fair use" laws, depending on the context, and whether or not a tangible profit is made from the images. In your use of the images, it's evident that you are using them TO make a profit, not to contribute to a discussion or write an article about them.

Martin 04-12-2005 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties
this biz is funny :2 cents:

Gets better everyday too...

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:12 AM

Fletch, i hate to go this way, especially with you but just to defend myself, youre sharing big amounts of mp3's....see what im heading at?

You feel its alright because its just for fun, just for friends...you dont burn them on cd's and sell them, that would make you feel bad.

CDSmith 04-12-2005 11:12 AM

There's a lesson here for some of you.



(hint: don't steal)

Fletch XXX 04-12-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Fletch, i hate to go this way, especially with you but just to defend myself, youre sharing big amounts of mp3's....see what im heading at?

i trade a couple mp3s with people, this is totally not the same. You may be going somewhere but its the wrong direction.

You profit, i trade songs with fans.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

anyway, im done here,.. i just wanted to share my opoinion, I have no desire to argue with you.

Im just sick and tired of hypocrits here. One minute they fighting for this and that, next thing stealing content for profit.

ill let you and lady Mischief settle this, my opinion doesnt matter,.

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Fletch, i hate to go this way, especially with you but just to defend myself, youre sharing big amounts of mp3's....see what im heading at?

You feel its alright because its just for fun, just for friends...you dont burn them on cd's and sell them, that would make you feel bad.

He owns the original CDs.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
this has nothing to do with me.

ask lens the same.

and no, my board is not filled with people making paris hilton threads or vida whatever.

i have not seen the pics to be honest, just going on what is said here.

my board (DMPM) has nothing to do with this. public message boards are a bit dfifferent than actually taking pics and making money with them. ;)


ok...fair enough.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
He owns the oroginal CDs.

So fucking what? Does that mean youre allowed to rip them and upload them and share them online?

Dont get me wrong i share mp3's as well, just trying to defend myself here :)

LadyMischief 04-12-2005 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Fletch, i hate to go this way, especially with you but just to defend myself, youre sharing big amounts of mp3's....see what im heading at?

You feel its alright because its just for fun, just for friends...you dont burn them on cd's and sell them, that would make you feel bad.


Dear, pointing out that someone else may be infringing on copyrights doesn't mean that you doing it is any LESS wrong. I'm actually quite surprised, being that you are a content producer, that you would do that kind of thing. If you're willing to take the legal ramifications, so be it, but you are setting a bad example for the industry in general, as are all people who use such images in this way. Not bashing on you, just hoping that people won't just randomly follow your example. Who knows, the next pics you or someone else from here uses might be mine, or some other producer's content. It's pretty black and white, there are few shades of grey in copyright law.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
i trade a couple mp3s with people, this is totally not the same. You may be going somewhere but its the wrong direction.

You profit, i trade songs with fans.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

No you share 100's or even 1000's of mp3's which is costing the music industry millions, maybe even billions every year. (from all the sharing combined ofcourse). I agree youre not making profit but youre making someone else lose a lot of money...

Silent_Thunder 04-12-2005 11:18 AM

Franck,
if such a little misunderstanding broked your friendship with Dugmor, you dont even know what a friendship is :1orglaugh

mikeyddddd 04-12-2005 11:18 AM

- No shit?

fris 04-12-2005 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i am an assclown, i never shutup

well said

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent_Thunder
Franck,
if such a little misunderstanding broked your friendship with Dugmor, you dont even know what a friendship is :1orglaugh


Uh, no it doesnt, im just gonna bitchslap him next time i see him.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
well said

:1orglaugh

CDSmith 04-12-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
No you share 100's or even 1000's of mp3's which is costing the music industry millions, maybe even billions every year. (from all the sharing combined ofcourse). I agree youre not making profit but youre making someone else lose a lot of money...

Two wrong's dude. Don't you think you're being a bit obvious in your deflecting here? It's a bit like a kid saying "I stole a chocolate bar, yes... but everyone else stole too!" :1orglaugh


Man, face it.... there is no excuse for stealing. Period.

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Two wrong's dude. Don't you think you're being a bit obvious in your deflecting here? It's a bit like a kid saying "I stole a chocolate bar, yes... but everyone else stole too!" :1orglaugh


Man, face it.... there is no excuse for stealing. Period.

Dude, i already admitted i was wrong, thats not the point...the point is Fletch attacked me because of it but his hands arent exactly clean either...only difference is he denies it.
Stealing is wrong, period. Yes, youre right no excuse.

Fletch XXX 04-12-2005 11:25 AM

i did not attack. I shared my opinion. For some reasdon, anytime i do people tend to get all jumpy and start bickering.

I just shared my opinion the way others have.

You then wanted it to become a back and forth.

anyway,... im off

Dirty F 04-12-2005 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
i did not attack. I shared my opinion. For some reasdon, anytime i do people tend to get all jumpy and start bickering.

I just shared my opinion the way others have.

You then wanted it to become a back and forth.

anyway,... im off


You go girl!

Shaddam IV 04-12-2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Dude, i already admitted i was wrong, thats not the point..

You admited to being a Thief ? And how is that not the point ?

SmokeyTheBear 04-12-2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
?

dude wtf is your problem ? do you have something to say ??

SmokeyTheBear 04-12-2005 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
well said


You seem to have a fetish ( stalker? ) problem with following me around then making up some childish quote for no reason in thread that have nothing to do with me or you ?? If you have something to say , dont be shy , spit it out :1orglaugh .

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-12-2005 11:32 AM

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CDSmith 04-12-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Dude, i already admitted i was wrong, thats not the point...the point is Fletch attacked me because of it but his hands arent exactly clean either...only difference is he denies it.
Stealing is wrong, period. Yes, youre right no excuse.

ya, but duUUude.... :1orglaugh

Hey, next time you have thief problems try this....


http://members.shaw.ca/billy1-99/pic...dlikeashot.jpg


:thumbsup

CHMOD 04-12-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck
Next time you might be more careful and delete my urls from the source so i wont find out.
Thanks for ripping my keywords as well.

I always like it when "friends" steal from me.

:321GFY

Finally, someone realizes that Dugmor is nothing but a clown.

Watch his answer : " Sorry bro, it was a friend of mine who worked for me that copy yopur page... I told him not to do it again. "
The easy way out. And everyone will beleive him ...

I gave him many favors... Never got a single back...

He is a lyer and a moron.

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD
He is a lyer and a moron.

I believe the word you intended to use was: liar

You're welcome.

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CDSmith 04-12-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHMOD
He is a lyer

Dugmor is a lyer? Man, that lye really burns your skin. There can't be any money in lye these days.

KRL 04-12-2005 12:06 PM

Time for some comic relief.

http://people.ambrosiasw.com/~andrew/funny/ambition.jpg

:1orglaugh

DarkJedi 04-12-2005 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL
Time for some comic relief.


http://sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/cat.jpg

baddog 04-12-2005 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula
hahaha you two got license for those pics? classic.

:1orglaugh

FWIW: I have seen this exact same gallery at least 6 different places in the last 12 hours.


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