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DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tical
damn there is like a 40lb difference here and it aint fat.. you've got some balls danza cuz the last thing I'd wanna hear is kimbo sayin "emmie get mah bred"

realistically though, no one is gonna put up 50k for a fight, some UFC guys don't even make anything close to 50k for their fights

I am putting it up... and I know the bang bros or nasty dollars could afford to put it up and if I am not mistaken h is there bodygaurd....

newbreed 04-17-2005 07:59 PM

I got 1k on Dirty. I sent a ton of messages to the Nasty guys a year ago trying to get something lined up with no reply. Yes Kimbo is huge and dangerous, but not un-beatable or stoppable in any terms. Someone with some training and skils, that knows how to use them against Kimbo's "skills" could take him no doubt.

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 08:01 PM

yeah it's mikes bodygaurd thats right... gool guy I have met him many times... no bad beef with him at all... fact is we'd prolly go in cool with each other and out with that much more respect of each other

dig420 04-17-2005 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I am putting it up... and I know the bang bros or nasty dollars could afford to put it up and if I am not mistaken h is there bodygaurd....

You're not a 3rd degree BB in GJJ, or you'd be famous. Muay Thai?

what belt do you hold in JJ?

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420
You're not a 3rd degree BB in GJJ, or you'd be famous. Muay Thai?

what belt do you hold in JJ?

alor of people are 3rd degree and not famous... muay thai I am only red sash.. which is under black

dig420 04-17-2005 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
4 years muat thai from master toddy here in Vegas... but I love ground fighting... I had my jaw busted once was wired for 4 months

http://www.gracieacademy.com/

http://mastertoddy.com/

lol this is where I train. I host this site. Say hello next time you're in class ;)

dig420 04-17-2005 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
alor of people are 3rd degree and not famous... muay thai I am only red sash.. which is under black

Who? I bet I've heard the name of every 3rd degree BB in GJJ on earth.

http://bjj.org/a/ranks.html <---- are you in here?

ModelPerfect 04-17-2005 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
not at all.... I will use his weight to my advantage... keep in mind I got about 9.5 years training in nothing but training for 4 days a week on my back most of the time with reylson gracie.. I am no softie on the ground.. now for me to stand up with him may be my death.. but not to worried about it

No offense meant, but how much more training does Royce Gracie have than you and he almost got his ass handed to him fighting Kimo in UFC 3. And Kimo was a pure brawler...that's it.... He'd have lost if Kimo didn't have a ponytail.

There is not a more lethal martial art in the world than street fighting... You have to respect that, or you will end up dead. That experience makes a world of difference.

dig420 04-17-2005 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
No offense meant, but how much more training does Royce Gracie have than you and he almost got his ass handed to him fighting Kimo in UFC 3. And Kimo was a pure brawler...that's it.... He'd have lost if Kimo didn't have a ponytail.

There is not a more lethal martial art in the world than street fighting... You have to respect that, or you will end up dead. That experience makes a world of difference.

Kimo was trained and is far far more dangerous than Kimbo. Yeah a big athletic guy is dangerous, especially to me who's only a little blue belt. A street fighter's chances against someone of Royce's caliber are slim to none.

dig420 04-17-2005 08:12 PM

Reylson only has one black belt I think, are your initials KG?

ModelPerfect 04-17-2005 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420
Kimo was trained and is far far more dangerous than Kimbo. Yeah a big athletic guy is dangerous, especially to me who's only a little blue belt. A street fighter's chances against someone of Royce's caliber are slim to none.

I'm saying you have to respect that a street fighter is dangerous. If you underestimate them, or 'assume' you can win because they've never stepped on a mat, then you're setting yourself up to get killed. The ring, the mat and the street are 3 totally different situations, with the street being by far the most dangerous. It's when you get cocky and underestimate your oponent, that you will find you're not as good as you think you are...

Vitasoy 04-17-2005 08:18 PM

I want to see danza and dig420 roll together. :)

dig420 04-17-2005 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitasoy
I want to see danza and dig420 roll together. :)

if he's been training for 9.5 years he'll tap me at will. I'm always down though, it's good to learn ;)

BVF 04-17-2005 08:22 PM

somebody PLEASSSSE get ahold of Kimbo...Whatever show you'll fight him at, I'm THERE, regardless of what else I have to do.

dig420 04-17-2005 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect
I'm saying you have to respect that a street fighter is dangerous. If you underestimate them, or 'assume' you can win because they've never stepped on a mat, then you're setting yourself up to get killed. The ring, the mat and the street are 3 totally different situations, with the street being by far the most dangerous. It's when you get cocky and underestimate your oponent, that you will find you're not as good as you think you are...

you're right, it's not good to get cocky. That being said - Royce will tap out a tough untrained guy using only his legs. Literally. I'm not exaggerating.

dij 04-17-2005 08:31 PM

Danza, are you getting my messages about galleries?
I've been trying to get a hold of you for past 3-4 days
what's up?

Pleasurepays 04-17-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I will challenge kimbo to a 2 round 5 min a round MMA fight anytime he thinks he's ready.. anyone know how to get a hold of him tell him.. he beats me.. I will give him 50 grand... I beat him which I will .. he gives me 50k bottom line... anyone with any training beisides "back yard" street fighting will take him anyday no matter the size and I am here to prove that... I will have him tap out within the first 1 min of the fight I will bet another 10k on that....

hahaha.. awesome!

gotta respect that. :)

Vitasoy 04-17-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420
you're right, it's not good to get cocky. That being said - Royce will tap out a tough untrained guy using only his legs. Literally. I'm not exaggerating.

Hes like a python on the mat.

xNetworx 04-17-2005 09:13 PM

Danza... what competitions have you been in? Links? If none.. I call BS.. and yes.. I roll too.

Thomas N 04-17-2005 09:19 PM

No posts from ds since dig started questioning him about his 3rd degree bb in jj claims...

don't let us down ds.

xNetworx 04-17-2005 09:20 PM

100 deathwishes

BlueDesignStudios 04-17-2005 09:20 PM

quite an interesting thread this has grown into :pimp

Kevsh 04-17-2005 09:28 PM

Even a big SOB like Bob Sapp who was MMA fight experience has tapped out. If a smaller fighter can make Sapp tap then Kimbo may be even easier - that is, he has no idea how to guard against submission holds while Sapp does.

Though Kimbo does seem like a masochist type who get's adrenaline off being hit. I'd say the best submissions will be arm or ankle if you can hold on.

Anthony 04-17-2005 09:29 PM

I've asked before for DS to show his credentials. I have yet to get an answer from him. He said he trained bjj under Relson for 7 years.

Anyways, back to the discussion. Kimbo is no longer untrained. I met him last month and asked him if he's been training with FFA in Miami, to which he said he was.

For those of you in the know, FFA is the Avellan brother's school. Dig should remember them, as one brother beat our Instructor Rener Gracie during the Ultimate Submission Showdown.

Anthony 04-17-2005 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh
Even a big SOB like Bob Sapp who was MMA fight experience has tapped out. If a smaller fighter can make Sapp tap then Kimbo may be even easier - that is, he has no idea how to guard against submission holds while Sapp does.

Though Kimbo does seem like a masochist type who get's adrenaline off being hit. I'd say the best submissions will be arm or ankle if you can hold on.


You are kidding right? Sapp tapped out to one of the best heavyweight BJJ fighters in the world.

There's a big difference between Nog and Dirty Ds. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

swedguy 04-17-2005 09:32 PM

It would be cool if the fight would actually take place, but I seriously doubt it will happen.

Vitasoy 04-17-2005 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony
You are kidding right? Sapp tapped out to one of the best heavyweight BJJ fighters in the world.

There's a big difference between Nog and Dirty Ds. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

No shit... Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira took quite a beating too before submitting sapp when he tired out. I'd say hes ranked 3rd in the world in the heavy weight divison. Fedor is first, cro crop I say is 2nd. or maybe 3rd and Antonio is 2nd

chodadog 04-17-2005 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
how do u plan on taking him to the ground before getting knocked out ?

Just think Tank Abbot versus Frank Mir.

Screaming 04-17-2005 09:36 PM

well good luck dude if it ever happes

swedguy 04-17-2005 09:38 PM

Btw. after seeing you in somce pics I would never think you were into martial arts.

ModelPerfect 04-17-2005 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chodadog
Just think Tank Abbot versus Frank Mir.

My favorite was Tank versus Belford... imagine smacking a slugger so much to make him shoot in on a known grappler. lol

TheSenator 04-17-2005 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I am 3rd degree black and he may have just started training but as you know... if I can ever get a half gaurd on him then it's over for him.. bottom line... not saying he could not land a lucky punch on me and knock me silly.. thats very possiable... but it does not seem as his legs are in shape to kick.. nor does he have training to kick... granted he is tough.. but I am sure I can either pass him out or make him tap out... depends on the hold I get at the time... I am betting on a heel lock.. and twist


Kimbo won't tap until the damage is done by the heel hook. I have seen guys trying to fight their way out of a heel hook. Heel hooks could to damage to the knee for life.

TheSenator 04-17-2005 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I am 3rd degree black and he may have just started training but as you know... if I can ever get a half gaurd on him then it's over for him.. bottom line... not saying he could not land a lucky punch on me and knock me silly.. thats very possiable... but it does not seem as his legs are in shape to kick.. nor does he have training to kick... granted he is tough.. but I am sure I can either pass him out or make him tap out... depends on the hold I get at the time... I am betting on a heel lock.. and twist

There are only 36 people in the world who are 3rd degree Black Belts.

Who gave you your belt?

Anthony 04-17-2005 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator
There are only 36 people in the world who are 3rd degree Black Belts.

Who gave you your belt?

Do you train in NJ? I'm coming up to visit some friends and would like to meet other webmasters, and Hell would be great to roll with them too. :)

Anthony 04-17-2005 10:14 PM

Going back to this challenge.

I'm 6 foot 1, 260lbs. Kimbo is my size.

DS, I've seen your pics/movies, you wouldn't have a chance in Hell. Just by going with Kimbo's fight in the backyard, and his last one with Gannon, you would be chewed up and spit out.

Couple that with his training with the Avellan's, and you have a sprawl and brawler.

Give it up.

Btw, it's 5 grand I believe to fight.

DirtyDanza 04-17-2005 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony
Going back to this challenge.

I'm 6 foot 1, 260lbs. Kimbo is my size.

DS, I've seen your pics/movies, you wouldn't have a chance in Hell. Just by going with Kimbo's fight in the backyard, and his last one with Gannon, you would be chewed up and spit out.

Couple that with his training with the Avellan's, and you have a sprawl and brawler.

Give it up.

Btw, it's 5 grand I believe to fight.

size means nothing.... it really does not... if you know what your doing you can use someones weight aginst them really fast... sorry guys had to run out for a few thats why I have not been here responding.... as far as rolling... I am down to roll with anyone anytime.. I love rolling with someone who knows what he's doing.. thats the only way we all get better.. dig you can ICQ me if you want to ... I will come up there you can come down here we will roll around for some fun then hit the strip here for some whores... my fav 2 pass times....

WarChild 04-17-2005 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
size means nothing

Ridiculous. Answer me something, why is every serious combat sport always regulated by weight classes? Size and strength may not be the most important thing, but saying is means nothing is simply ignorant. :2 cents:

Anthony 04-17-2005 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
size means nothing.... it really does not... if you know what your doing you can use someones weight aginst them really fast... sorry guys had to run out for a few thats why I have not been here responding.... as far as rolling... I am down to roll with anyone anytime.. I love rolling with someone who knows what he's doing.. thats the only way we all get better.. dig you can ICQ me if you want to ... I will come up there you can come down here we will roll around for some fun then hit the strip here for some whores... my fav 2 pass times....

You are in lala land dude.

Kimbo before he trained with the Avellans would tear you up.

Now, you wouldn't have a chance. Half guard on a guy who will punch your face in, please.

I'm sure you are a good grappler, win some tournaments, enter some ring and cage fights, then think about fighting Kimbo.

Btw, if size and weight doesn't mean anything, can you explain to me why PRIDE FC and UFC have it? LOL

Anthony 04-17-2005 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
Ridiculous. Answer me something, why is every serious combat sport always regulated by weight classes? Size and strength may not be the most important thing, but saying is means nothing is simply ignorant. :2 cents:


Man, you and I agree on so many things when it comes to fighting, we're gonna have to meet when I come up to Vancity.

Anthony 04-17-2005 10:31 PM

Oh btw.

Which BJJ school did you receive your 3rd Degree Black Belt from and from whom?


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