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Anthony 04-18-2005 01:15 AM

Almeida, Leandro (Rickson)
Alonso, Marcelo (Carlson Sr.)
Assad Teixeira, Guilherme (R. De La Riva Goded, 5/30/1996)
Braga, Anibal (Carlson Sr.)
Carvalho, Pedro (A. Braga)
Corrêa de Lima, Roberto "Gordo" (Carlos Jr.)
Dias, Wellington "Megaton" (Rickson)
Fabiano, Wagnney (A. Pederneiras, 1/21/2005)
Fernando, Paulo (F. Behring)
Ferrão, Beto (O. Fadda)
França Pires, Cláudio (F. Mansor)
Frazier, Hideki (J. Moreira, 5/9/2003)
Gracie, Ralph (Carlos Jr.)
Gurgel, Evanri
Gurgel, Fabio (Jacaré)
Harris, Roy (J. Moreira)
Luciano Costa, Cleber "Clebinho" (Royler, 2003)
Machado, Roger (Carlos Jr.)
Magalhães, Vinícius "Draculíno" (Carlos Jr.)
Mansor, Krauss Archanjo (F. Mansor)
Martins, Fabrício (O. Alves)
Meyer, David (R. Machado)
Monteiro, Marcello Chapuis "Monteirão" (R. De La Riva Goded, 12/9/1999)
Moreira Froes, Gustavo (J. Moreira)
Oliveira, Fabio Jose De (M. Behring, 2003)
Pederneiras, Andre (Carlson Sr.)
Pereira, Mauricio (F. Behring)
Popovitch, Jorge (Carlson Sr.)
Reis, Ricardo Pinheiro "Tanque" (F. Martins)
Saporito, Marcelo (Carlson Sr.)
Tibério, Carlos (P. Hemetério Araújo de Castro)
Vaghi, Rodrigo (Rickson)
Valente, Guillherme (Helio)
Will, John (R. Machado)
Yamasaki, Mario (M. Behring)
Yogui, Marcelo (Soneca)

There's the list of known 3rd Degree BB in BJJ, that you said you were on.

Unless you are Brazillian, you aren't on that list.

I've checked the 3 or 4 non brazillians on there, they aren't you, since most of them have pictures. It takes alot to just make blue belt in BJJ, 3rd Degree BB status is god like for BJJ'ers. Ryron and Rener Gracie, Dig's present and my former instructors are 3rd Degree BB's. My current instructor Mauricio Villardo is a 1st Degree BB under Royler Gracie, he's been training since 15 and just got his belt in 1997.

BJJ is one of the few and last real Martial Arts where we don't have fake Black Belts like Tae Kwon Do, Kung Fu, whatever. Your belt signifies your level. At the level you say you are, you would be known in the BJJ circles. When I visited my family in San Diego, I made it a top priority to train with Roy Harris, one of the men listed as a 3rd BB. If you were at his level, you would make me look like a kid who just learned how to crawl.

Some very talented grapplers are not BJJ trained. It doesn't mater, but trying to look good by saying you are something you aren't, well, that doesn't put you in a good light.

I'm done for the night. If you do make the fight, I'll work your guard with you, but I'll also be the first to tell you if you aren't ready for him.

DirtyDanza 04-18-2005 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
Almeida, Leandro (Rickson)
Alonso, Marcelo (Carlson Sr.)
Assad Teixeira, Guilherme (R. De La Riva Goded, 5/30/1996)
Braga, Anibal (Carlson Sr.)
Carvalho, Pedro (A. Braga)
Corrêa de Lima, Roberto "Gordo" (Carlos Jr.)
Dias, Wellington "Megaton" (Rickson)
Fabiano, Wagnney (A. Pederneiras, 1/21/2005)
Fernando, Paulo (F. Behring)
Ferrão, Beto (O. Fadda)
França Pires, Cláudio (F. Mansor)
Frazier, Hideki (J. Moreira, 5/9/2003)
Gracie, Ralph (Carlos Jr.)
Gurgel, Evanri
Gurgel, Fabio (Jacaré)
Harris, Roy (J. Moreira)
Luciano Costa, Cleber "Clebinho" (Royler, 2003)
Machado, Roger (Carlos Jr.)
Magalhães, Vinícius "Draculíno" (Carlos Jr.)
Mansor, Krauss Archanjo (F. Mansor)
Martins, Fabrício (O. Alves)
Meyer, David (R. Machado)
Monteiro, Marcello Chapuis "Monteirão" (R. De La Riva Goded, 12/9/1999)
Moreira Froes, Gustavo (J. Moreira)
Oliveira, Fabio Jose De (M. Behring, 2003)
Pederneiras, Andre (Carlson Sr.)
Pereira, Mauricio (F. Behring)
Popovitch, Jorge (Carlson Sr.)
Reis, Ricardo Pinheiro "Tanque" (F. Martins)
Saporito, Marcelo (Carlson Sr.)
Tibério, Carlos (P. Hemetério Araújo de Castro)
Vaghi, Rodrigo (Rickson)
Valente, Guillherme (Helio)
Will, John (R. Machado)
Yamasaki, Mario (M. Behring)
Yogui, Marcelo (Soneca)

There's the list of known 3rd Degree BB in BJJ, that you said you were on.

Unless you are Brazillian, you aren't on that list.

I've checked the 3 or 4 non brazillians on there, they aren't you, since most of them have pictures. It takes alot to just make blue belt in BJJ, 3rd Degree BB status is god like for BJJ'ers. Ryron and Rener Gracie, Dig's present and my former instructors are 3rd Degree BB's. My current instructor Mauricio Villardo is a 1st Degree BB under Royler Gracie, he's been training since 15 and just got his belt in 1997.

BJJ is one of the few and last real Martial Arts where we don't have fake Black Belts like Tae Kwon Do, Kung Fu, whatever. Your belt signifies your level. At the level you say you are, you would be known in the BJJ circles. When I visited my family in San Diego, I made it a top priority to train with Roy Harris, one of the men listed as a 3rd BB. If you were at his level, you would make me look like a kid who just learned how to crawl.

Some very talented grapplers are not BJJ trained. It doesn't mater, but trying to look good by saying you are something you aren't, well, that doesn't put you in a good light.

I'm done for the night. If you do make the fight, I'll work your guard with you, but I'll also be the first to tell you if you aren't ready for him.

we will roll... and have some fun and train... will you also tell me I am ready when you see and roll with me?

ytcracker 04-18-2005 01:25 AM

im near torrance i should go to the academy

Clicky_Bucks 04-18-2005 01:27 AM

Danza, just say you aren't on that list then we can start to take you serious again. You got caught up in the moment and embellished your accomplishments.

Major (Tom) 04-18-2005 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
:1orglaugh


Last thing i need is beef with kimbo :)

Duke

rml1608 04-18-2005 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
as far as the BB questions.. I personlaly just feel that it's really no ones buisness to gloat about it where I got it what my name is.. ect ect... my name is on that list thats posted earlier... I am one of those that feels that I will prove my skills on the mat.. and thats it... those who kow me know I am not full of shit.. if they don;t know me then it really does not bother me weather they belive me or not know what I mean... like your saying a lightweaght MMA fighter can prolly take a heaverweight boxer any day of the week.. I personally feel that all the new UFC's are a joke... ever since tito got involved into it it seems to have went downhill IMO.. but thats just me.. there are cats training each day that will take any UFC fighter.. as far as the coture thing I feel the same way as you do.. liddel is no spring chicken but couture just looks aged know what I mean.. if it went to the ground randy could have stood a better chance.. but he stood wanted to box a striker.. bad move on his part if you ask me


As far as all the new UFC's being a joke I can't reply. As I said I haven't seen it in over a year where they were starting to make grand gestures about the explosion of the UFC and it became much more of a bragging pedestal every event I watched - But hey those guys SHOULD be making 10X what boxers make. The last few boxing matches I watched there is NO WAY those guys should have the pay days they got. The worst UFC fights I saw blew the average boxing match out of the water. Anyone who can say otherwise is NOT a man.

If you are talking about the UFC 1-2 years ago I disagree STRONGLY, and I can't emphasize the word "strongly" enough. What Tito did for the UFC, regardless of his stature or what die hard fans think of him now or then... Is comprable to what... Jesus I can't even think of a good euphonism I could state as to what a particular sporting figure did for any other sport (granted I have had a 6 pack lol). He brought in fans who never would of came otherwise. They came, and got hooked. Tito did alot for MMA - anyone who disagrees just doesn't like who he is, which is not what we are talking about here. I agree he is a pompous ass and never said otherwise. I am curious as to answers on my A,B,C question though...

By the way to anyone who didn't notice - and no not saying it means anything less as being on that list is an outstanding accomplishment in itself! But he never stated he was in the section you mentioned, just that he was on that page :winkwink:

Phoenix 04-18-2005 01:57 AM

he is a big dude...you can lose an eye and still win a fight..but have you really won?

if you go to the ground and miss getting your hold in place...what happens when a second later his big ass foreamr comes crashing down on yout throat

stay away from fights unless it is worth it....i used to kick box and when they put me in the ring to see if i would be competitve it only took a few hard punches in my head to make me say wtf?

keep your fighting for defending your honour or your familys honour...fighting to say you are best is only for world class professionals that have dedicated their lives to it...other then that...why risk a broken arm/leg or a re-occuring back injury etc

dig420 04-18-2005 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix
he is a big dude...you can lose an eye and still win a fight..but have you really won?

if you go to the ground and miss getting your hold in place...what happens when a second later his big ass foreamr comes crashing down on yout throat

stay away from fights unless it is worth it....i used to kick box and when they put me in the ring to see if i would be competitve it only took a few hard punches in my head to make me say wtf?

keep your fighting for defending your honour or your familys honour...fighting to say you are best is only for world class professionals that have dedicated their lives to it...other then that...why risk a broken arm/leg or a re-occuring back injury etc

Torn ligaments in my ankle I'm currently rehabbing
torn ligament in my wrist that can't be rehabbed
Slap tear to the labrum
detached tendons in my right bicep
frayed rotator cuff
had a hole in my lip you could stick your thumb in from a foot to the chops
so many bruises my chest and arms looked like they were zebra striped

I'm the BEST!! lol

Believe it or not, what you get out of it is worth all the pain and then some. I couldn't see ever not training unless I get injured so bad it's just not possible. GJJ isn't really about fighting per se, it's about bringing out the best of yourself and finding out what you're really capable of when the pressure is on.

dig420 04-18-2005 02:12 AM

I'm no more violent today than I was when I started training, I don't wanna hurt nobody and I don't want nobody to hurt me and I'm just as scared of real fighting as I ever was, but in the back of my mind when I think somebody might fuck with me I know the GJJ is there and I tell myself 'If I have to, I'll break his fucking arm' and it's nice to know that I could probably do it :)

rml1608 04-18-2005 02:16 AM

Dig, didn't we know eachother before? Ryan Lanane is my full name - drop me a line some time ..... I think we talked on Either YNOT... Condom... Oprano... One of those boards back in the days. Your name really rings a bell with me. Transvestite Teasers mean anything to you ?

shermo 04-18-2005 03:01 AM

Crazy thread!

Danza... I'd shit myself if this fight ever happened. I'd hate to see you even having to face his fists.

makefuckingmoney 04-18-2005 03:43 AM

ill wager 5k this never happens!
anyone want to give me odds?

pradaboy 04-18-2005 04:12 AM

as fun as this sounds I doubt it will ever happen. I also find it strange that Danza keeps avoiding the question about his 3rd degree BB, if you lied about it just say so and get it over with... no need to impress us GFY folks, just make sure you impress Kimbo.

BTW there will def need to be a ppv stream setup for this, I wouldn't want to miss it!

Shoehorn! 04-18-2005 04:35 AM

I think that Kimbo guy is going to be here in Hawaii for a fight. They have those fights all the time out here.

Evil Jawa 04-18-2005 04:41 AM

Are you joking ? Kimbo would tear your head off.

Vitasoy 04-18-2005 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
I think that Kimbo guy is going to be here in Hawaii for a fight. They have those fights all the time out here.

You know who hes fighting?

Shoehorn! 04-18-2005 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitasoy
You know who hes fighting?

Shit, I am not sure, I don't really follow this. I can see the billboard in my mind right now but I don't remember the name. Let me see if I can dig up some information on it.

DirtyDanza 04-18-2005 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shermsshack
Crazy thread!

Danza... I'd shit myself if this fight ever happened. I'd hate to see you even having to face his fists.


I would hate to get one of his fist to my face.. specally his left hook... thats his stronges punch.. thrown the best...

DirtyDanza 04-18-2005 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420
I'm no more violent today than I was when I started training, I don't wanna hurt nobody and I don't want nobody to hurt me and I'm just as scared of real fighting as I ever was, but in the back of my mind when I think somebody might fuck with me I know the GJJ is there and I tell myself 'If I have to, I'll break his fucking arm' and it's nice to know that I could probably do it :)


thats how I feel.... I hate fighting.. specally street fights.. never know who's got what weapon... if you meet me which I belive we have.. I am the most laid back person in vegas.. never start no beef with anyone... and would not want to agianst kimbo.. but you know your in gjj a street fighter is not standing a chance unless.... unless he gets that punch in that levels us to the ground and they can jump on top and attack from there...

Shoehorn! 04-18-2005 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
Shit, I am not sure, I don't really follow this. I can see the billboard in my mind right now but I don't remember the name. Let me see if I can dig up some information on it.

Heres a few links, doesn't mention Kimbo, but I coulda swore I saw the name on the sign as I drove by, because I remember thinking to myself "I think thats the guy they talk about on GFY." I'll drive by again tomorrow when I go to play squash, so I'll look again.

Didn't really read these links too extensively, but here they are anyway.
http://www.awcable.com/special_k1_martialarts.htm
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showth...hreadid=222291
http://www.onzuka.com/news.html

AcidMax 04-18-2005 05:45 AM

If you fight him good luck with it.

I think I read somewhere though he (Kimbo) is doing some MMA training, is this true? I read it after the last fight with Gannon.

Vitasoy 04-18-2005 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn
Heres a few links, doesn't mention Kimbo, but I coulda swore I saw the name on the sign as I drove by, because I remember thinking to myself "I think thats the guy they talk about on GFY." I'll drive by again tomorrow when I go to play squash, so I'll look again.

Didn't really read these links too extensively, but here they are anyway.
http://www.awcable.com/special_k1_martialarts.htm
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showth...hreadid=222291
http://www.onzuka.com/news.html

Sweet

B. J. PENN

vs.
Rodrigo GRACIE

I would love to see this match up... I think Penn will win

Vitasoy 04-18-2005 05:57 AM

Oh wait that is old... happened in Date : Saturday, November 20, 2004


damn I wanna see it :)

Thrawn$ 04-18-2005 06:26 AM

You wanna fight kimbo at 165 Lbs??? :helpme

at this weight, you take one punch and you'll fly in the air like a bird

Platinumpimp 04-18-2005 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
like I said I have nothing aginst kimbo really cool guy I have met him a few times... just always alot of talk on here (gfy) abot how he's the baddest.. he is bad trust me.. I would not want to have to stand up with him in a ring on an alley... but a skilled person can take a street fighter anyday.. unless.. and it's a really unless they get that one punch in and go in for the kill and someone who knows how to have good offence will know defence as well... there are points where punches and kicks are the strongest where they sting the most... hence the "reach" factor if you stay inside that chances are you will never get that knock out punch from someone.. I have watched him fight.. he hits really really hard

Slowly talking his ass out of it. :1orglaugh

chodadog 04-18-2005 07:35 AM

I can totally understand Danza not wanting to put his real name out on GFY for all to see given the kind of content he's involved in. It's best to keep a low profile with that kind of stuff. But maybe he should mention it to Anthony or Dig on ICQ. I'm sure they could be trusted not to repeat it. Then at least this thread would be credible. If what he is saying is true, then this would be great and i'd love to see it. If not, then i guess i'll catch the video on ogrish.com

kmanrox 04-18-2005 08:02 AM

if this is legit, i'll bet 5k you wont beat him within the 1 minute you say. LMK if this happens

oh.. and i only read the first page, so if something else has transpired on the other 5 pages, oh well fuckit

robfantasy 04-18-2005 08:13 AM

lets roll mutherfuckers http://www.herts.police.uk/images/ecstasy.jpg

Steve 04-18-2005 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
Almeida, Leandro (Rickson)
Alonso, Marcelo (Carlson Sr.)
Assad Teixeira, Guilherme (R. De La Riva Goded, 5/30/1996)
Braga, Anibal (Carlson Sr.)
Carvalho, Pedro (A. Braga)
Corrêa de Lima, Roberto "Gordo" (Carlos Jr.)
Dias, Wellington "Megaton" (Rickson)
Fabiano, Wagnney (A. Pederneiras, 1/21/2005)
Fernando, Paulo (F. Behring)
Ferrão, Beto (O. Fadda)
França Pires, Cláudio (F. Mansor)
Frazier, Hideki (J. Moreira, 5/9/2003)
Gracie, Ralph (Carlos Jr.)
Gurgel, Evanri
Gurgel, Fabio (Jacaré)
Harris, Roy (J. Moreira)
Luciano Costa, Cleber "Clebinho" (Royler, 2003)
Machado, Roger (Carlos Jr.)
Magalhães, Vinícius "Draculíno" (Carlos Jr.)
Mansor, Krauss Archanjo (F. Mansor)
Martins, Fabrício (O. Alves)
Meyer, David (R. Machado)
Monteiro, Marcello Chapuis "Monteirão" (R. De La Riva Goded, 12/9/1999)
Moreira Froes, Gustavo (J. Moreira)
Oliveira, Fabio Jose De (M. Behring, 2003)
Pederneiras, Andre (Carlson Sr.)
Pereira, Mauricio (F. Behring)
Popovitch, Jorge (Carlson Sr.)
Reis, Ricardo Pinheiro "Tanque" (F. Martins)
Saporito, Marcelo (Carlson Sr.)
Tibério, Carlos (P. Hemetério Araújo de Castro)
Vaghi, Rodrigo (Rickson)
Valente, Guillherme (Helio)
Will, John (R. Machado)
Yamasaki, Mario (M. Behring)
Yogui, Marcelo (Soneca)

There's the list of known 3rd Degree BB in BJJ, that you said you were on.

SNIP
Ryron and Rener Gracie, Dig's present and my former instructors are 3rd Degree BB's.

not to be a dick, but I dont see their names on the list. So it isn't complete, maybe he's on the update list that they would appear on?

I wouldn't want to see this fight. I would like to see Danza compete in a MMA event, if he's got the credentials he is claiming. Just up against another guy in the same weight division.

Anthony 04-18-2005 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve
not to be a dick, but I dont see their names on the list. So it isn't complete, maybe he's on the update list that they would appear on?

I wouldn't want to see this fight. I would like to see Danza compete in a MMA event, if he's got the credentials he is claiming. Just up against another guy in the same weight division.

Don't see who's name on the list? Updated list? BJJ isn't Tae Kwon Do. Black belts aren't given out because you spend 2 grand and train there for a year.

There is no updated list. That is the list.

My bad, Ryron and Rener are 1st degree BB's.

Anthony 04-18-2005 09:56 AM

Couldn't edit...

My bad, Ryron and Rener are 1st degree BB's as per listed. However, they wear 3rd degree stripes. I have never questioned their ranking, but there are images of the stripes on their belts. Who gave them 3rd, I also don't know.

Maybe Dig can put some light on the subject.

BradShaw 04-18-2005 10:57 AM

This guy is so desperate for attention.

Pipecrew 04-18-2005 11:26 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?p=7145566

It's on!

WebTitan 04-18-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I will challenge kimbo to a 2 round 5 min a round MMA fight anytime he thinks he's ready.. anyone know how to get a hold of him tell him.. he beats me.. I will give him 50 grand... I beat him which I will .. he gives me 50k bottom line... anyone with any training beisides "back yard" street fighting will take him anyday no matter the size and I am here to prove that... I will have him tap out within the first 1 min of the fight I will bet another 10k on that....

i agree 100% on this...the guys is a mosnter, but could not hold his own in a situation like this...:2 cents:

Steve 04-18-2005 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
Couldn't edit...

My bad, Ryron and Rener are 1st degree BB's as per listed. However, they wear 3rd degree stripes. I have never questioned their ranking, but there are images of the stripes on their belts. Who gave them 3rd, I also don't know.

Maybe Dig can put some light on the subject.

NP, thanks for clearing that up. I dont blame the guy for not wanting his full name out on GFY (some people prefer a little privacy), but if he's got credentials, he should speak with you on ICQ.

who 04-18-2005 11:55 AM

I will eat Kimbo fo brekkferst.

http://www.stephentakacs.com/images/steven-takacs04.jpg

xxxdesign-net 04-18-2005 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
thats why tyson gets his ass kicked all the time.. and I like tyson but in his whole carrear he has never fought and won anyone good.. bvefore or after jail


Are you on crack..? Tyson is regarded as one of the best boxer of all time...

THe thing with brawlers is their carreer dont last long,, as oppose to intelligent tactical boxers like Lewis or Hopkins... BUt while he was in his prime.. he was one of the greatest.. :2 cents:

born 04-18-2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew
I wouldnt fight him with a stun gun and a baseball bat.

LOL - I Agree!

- My $$$ is on Kimbo!

b-

sickkittens 04-18-2005 12:11 PM

What's the motive for this anyways?

Digipimp 04-18-2005 12:29 PM

Bottom line street fighting for a few g's in the backyard this guy might be king, but I'm sure there some others we don't know about that are pretty raw. If this guy could fight MMA he would be fighting in pride for bigger cash, and he's not so there you go.


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