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woj 04-18-2005 05:49 PM

200.........

sonofsam 04-18-2005 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
This is not the case.

I told him exactly what to expect. He was even made aware that it was various niches.

you told me it was "girl next door" girls.. you never said it was in various niches..

why would i asked for a pregnant set + bbw sets included with "girl next door" sets?

sonofsam 04-18-2005 05:50 PM

since you are refunding the bald sets which you admit u never told me about, what about the bbw sets... the pregnant set.. the gothic girls?

also what about the older girls?

AaronM 04-18-2005 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
this is you pushing me to post the pics.... even though you say "as many as you have licences for"

and this is what you are sueing me for... how cool is that..



Well...Considering that copyright violation cases are a slam dunk.....And that case is worth a minimum of $10,500 bucks to me....I think that's pretty fucking rad!

It's the damage to my reputation that I am concerned with now. Not sure how I will be compensated for that.

jonesy 04-18-2005 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
I showed you basic breakdown of what was included in that package. Now that I have reviewed that breakdown based on the link from our ICQ log....I have come to the conclusion that the there was no specific mention of ugly chick who shaved her head. Because of this, I will knock those 3 sets off the price for you. That's $17.55 that you can take off of what you still owe me.....Never mind that the initial agreement was for $5000 and I was kind enough to give you another $500 off that already.

So......Your balance due of $878.35 minus this credit leaves you owing me $860.80 and let's not play the "I didn't know it was USD" bullshit game again.


see kid?

if you would have approached him in the manor i descibed aaron prob wouldve helped you out more.

aaron may be alot of things but from what i can gather from the boards hes very fair unless hes fucked with.

evildick 04-18-2005 05:52 PM

Dam man, don't you have a credit card or a line of credit? Would be very simple to write the man a cheque off a line of credit to get this taken care of instead of dragging it out.

You'll have to make some payments for a while and pay some interest, but isn't that better than a law suit?

abyss_al 04-18-2005 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
since you are refunding the bald sets which you admit u never told me about, what about the bbw sets... the pregnant set.. the gothic girls?

also what about the older girls?


this is good.... coming to a compromise... i really was hoping to see a knife fight though :(

sonofsam 04-18-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
see kid?

if you would have approached him in the manor i descibed aaron prob wouldve helped you out more.

aaron may be alot of things but from what i can gather from the boards hes very fair unless hes fucked with.

no offence, but you don't know the entire story... i tried contacting him many times on icq only to be put on ignore and told to fuck off... that was the whole reason of this thread was to get the 2257 docs since he put me on ignore... he wanted me to bring it to GFY he kept making attacks on me without using my name in other threads..... i honestly believe he wanted it to come to gfy

jonesy 04-18-2005 05:54 PM

heres some advice kid

call aaron on the phone or email and stop posting about this

choke up, apologize and then ask if you can work a deal out

keep posting and your fueling a fire that will only get worse

sherie 04-18-2005 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
I've said my piece. Now it's off to the sushi bar again for me. I had sushi last night but since I normally take my fiance and she was on the coast with her parents yesterday that means I must go twice to make up for being 1 person short, right?

Here, read this instead of arguing:

http://www.***************.com/2005/...-and-porn.html




Sonofsam... I'm sorry you overextended yourself and got a bad case of buyer's remorse. That's common. In fact the state of California has a "no cooling off period" when buying a car simply because of all the people who get buyer's remorse after purchasing a vehicle.

You'll thank Aaron later after launching your sites and seeing we're telling you the truth.

LMFAO good gawd. Where has it been said that he had buyers remorse because he over extended himself? So far no-where that I have read. You're making assumtions and boiling it down to that because he is not satisfied with his purchase. It sounds to me that some sort of deal was made regarding payment. His error for paying in CDN funds, I'm not sure what he was thinking. However, just because someone is unhappy with a product does not mean that he wants his money back because of buyers remorse, that's just bullshit! Your analogy is ridiculous, if a person bought a car and it was not the car that he agreed upon he could return it for a refund (not entirely sure what they agreed upon, however, it's clear that SoS doesn't believe that he agreed to the content he got). Sometimes it is what it is, nothing more and nothing less.

AaronM 04-18-2005 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
there was no mention of fat girls

or a pregnant set

or gothic girls either.



You sir, are a liar.

abyss_al 04-18-2005 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Well...Considering that copyright violation cases are a slam dunk.....And that case is worth a minimum of $10,500 bucks to me....I think that's pretty fucking rad!

It's the damage to my reputation that I am concerned with now. Not sure how I will be compensated for that.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
cmon.... no way in hell would this go through... you and i both know it.... you're talking like integrated now, suing for every nonsense possible

sonofsam 04-18-2005 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
You sir, are a liar.

You didn't tell me anything about pregnant sets and fat girls! when i asked u about the pregnant sets and stuff you replied with "shes actually one of my best converters"

Mr.Fiction 04-18-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
he already is sueing me for posting samples of the content in here, whats to say he wont get my site shut down by the host for having the content up on my site?

He can't sue you for posting samples here as part of an argument. A court would ask where he lost money on you posting the content here before they awarded him anything. Don't be afraid. :)

baddog 04-18-2005 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
It doesn't change anything... you think.. me being a NEWBIE how you've put it so many times.. would know that UGLY AMATUERS would convert? and that i would accept it knowing it was hairy gothic girls and BBW girls? no of course not because i'm a newbie right.. so then why would i have accepted the content if i had known it was nasty amatuers?


You have never bought bulk content before, that is pretty obvious. I would suggest you refrain from doing so in the future.

Of course, it will cost more, but at least you will know everything you are getting ahead of time.

AaronM 04-18-2005 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
you told me it was "girl next door" girls.. you never said it was in various niches..

why would i asked for a pregnant set + bbw sets included with "girl next door" sets?



Fisrt of all....You were made fully aware of the things you just mentioned.

As for why you would but it....Well now, let me think about that for a moment....

BECAUSE IT WAS A BULK PURCHASE! Not a pick and choose your set at full price deal.


I'm done with this thread and this issue now.

Pay me what you owe me and make your formal public apology or don't. That's up to you at this point. I already have the wheels in motion to proceed if you chose to continue your game.

Art Del Gado 04-18-2005 06:00 PM

anyone for side action bets on how this will turnout?

sonofsam 04-18-2005 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Fisrt of all....You were made fully aware of the things you just mentioned.

As for why you would but it....Well now, let me think about that for a moment....

BECAUSE IT WAS A BULK PURCHASE! Not a pick and choose your set at full price deal.


I'm done with this thread and this issue now.

Pay me what you owe me and make your formal public apology or don't. That's up to you at this point. I already have the wheels in motion to proceed if you chose to continue your game.

apology for what exactly? trying to deal with you on icq but you wanting me to bring it to gfy ?

jonesy 04-18-2005 06:01 PM

ONE MORE TIME Sonofsam


call aaron on the phone, email or post here you wanna contact him and stop posting about this

choke up, apologize and then ask if you can work a deal out

keep posting and your fueling a fire that will only get worse

xxxdesign-net 04-18-2005 06:01 PM

60,000 non-exclusive pics? For $4500 ? No videos? LOL Sonofsam.. are you a newbie or a large program owner ..? If you are a newbie.. don't fucking buy 60,000 pics... :2 cents:

sherie 04-18-2005 06:02 PM

Sam, Aaron told you what the balance is of the content, just pay it and let it go. You will find uses for that content. You've learned another lesson and surely it won't be your last. ALWAY pay and be paid in US funds (unless there are stipulations of other currencies) ALWAYS know what you are paying for! Just pay the remainder of the money and get on with it, you should be spending your time building your site/working etc.,then pissing on a board. Now you will know what to ask for in the future and learn to be specific with regards to content (and apply that to future business dealings) and SHAZAM you are on your way....

AaronM 04-18-2005 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
since you are refunding the bald sets which you admit u never told me about, what about the bbw sets... the pregnant set.. the gothic girls?

also what about the older girls?


This is truly my last post.

You were made FULLY aware of those and you are a liar by suggesting anything differently.

Remember when the cam boss offered you a certain amount and you got greedy and demanded more then they withdrew the offer?

Well....You are making the same mistake here. You are supposed to learn from your mistakes. Don't be such a greedy little fucker.

GoFuckYourself :321GFY

baddog 04-18-2005 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
the newb should ask seller if he could just pay for what he wants nd made a mistake (because if his newbiness in thinking and not asking about all the content) and get some sort of refund for what he cant use from seller

seller should agree

newb and seller agree to a refund/restocking price


Individual sets will usually total more than if one buys them in bulk. That is why people buy in bulk, for the discount.

There is a good chance that if he kept the other 125+ sets it would cost more that the $4,500 USD that he was supposed to pay for the bulk deal.

NaughtyRob 04-18-2005 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
no offence, but you don't know the entire story... i tried contacting him many times on icq only to be put on ignore and told to fuck off... that was the whole reason of this thread was to get the 2257 docs since he put me on ignore... he wanted me to bring it to GFY he kept making attacks on me without using my name in other threads..... i honestly believe he wanted it to come to gfy

It is very true that sonofsam tried to work it out on ICQ and AaronM would not work it out. Sonofsam messaged me and told me that he really did not want to take this to gfy, he tried for hours to get it settled.

sonofsam 04-18-2005 06:06 PM

You keep telling me i was aware of the goth/bbw/preg set... which i was not...
also... the thing about the camming bosses.. did i not already make it clear that i didn't know negotiating was a no/no ?
Greedy? Hardly.


and sherie: the agreement we had about payment.. from the BEGINNING was that i pay him the remainder after the site goes up and gets established and makes some sales...

baddog 04-18-2005 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
this is you pushing me to post the pics.... even though you say "as many as you have licences for"

and this is what you are sueing me for... how cool is that..


Personally I think this shows how closely you pay attention . . . or not.

To be honest, it surprised the hell out of my when you posted those pics when you just got done saying you did not have the license.

baddog 04-18-2005 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
He can't sue you for posting samples here as part of an argument. A court would ask where he lost money on you posting the content here before they awarded him anything. Don't be afraid. :)


You graduate law school recently?

jonesy 04-18-2005 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Individual sets will usually total more than if one buys them in bulk. That is why people buy in bulk, for the discount.

There is a good chance that if he kept the other 125+ sets it would cost more that the $4,500 USD that he was supposed to pay for the bulk deal.

i know the deal with bulk ect and i also mentioned a restocking fee also

since aaron was being very generous with him i thought it might be a way for the issue to be resolved

baddog 04-18-2005 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
he wont let me sell the content


selling memberships to your paysite is selling content

sonofsam 04-18-2005 06:11 PM

since aaron has already admitted he didn't tell me about the bald sets and is refunding the money for that.. how about i go through the entire content and list you how many of the sets i didn't ask for?

sonofsam 04-18-2005 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
selling memberships to your paysite is selling content

right.. and if he is already sueing me for posting some sample pics in this thread... what makes you think he wont contact my server provider and tell them to shut down my site because i dont have licences to the pictures? or even better yet SUE me for proffiting on the pictures?

Sly 04-18-2005 06:14 PM

baddog are you just as surprised daily when people post pictures from Maxim, FHM, ABC Website, and any other source that its quite clear that the poster doesn't have a license for? I know it sure shocks the hell out of me!

Mr.Fiction 04-18-2005 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
You graduate law school recently?

You don't have to be a lawyer to know when someone is full of shit as far as lawsuit threats. You should know that if you work in the adult industry. He can threaten anything he wants - he would not win money in court. :)

sherie 04-18-2005 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
You keep telling me i was aware of the goth/bbw/preg set... which i was not...
also... the thing about the camming bosses.. did i not already make it clear that i didn't know negotiating was a no/no ?
Greedy? Hardly.


and sherie: the agreement we had about payment.. from the BEGINNING was that i pay him the remainder after the site goes up and gets established and makes some sales...

If you had the remainder of the money (now) will he release the licenses and the 2257s? If so then ICQ me to work something out!

Sly 04-18-2005 06:16 PM

I wonder if I can sue somebody for quoting a funny comment I made... hmm... very interesting.

Mr.Fiction 04-18-2005 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
I wonder if I can sue somebody for quoting a funny comment I made... hmm... very interesting.

If the person is a newbie, you might be able to scare them with a lawsuit threat - but the judge might not think it's funny once you get into court and tell him why you're there. :)

sherie 04-18-2005 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
I wonder if I can sue somebody for quoting a funny comment I made... hmm... very interesting.

If that's the case I am gonna owe you meeeeeeeeeeeleons! :P

sonofsam 04-18-2005 06:24 PM

i'm also done posting in this thread...... please leave popcorn trays on top of the counter on your way out

NaughtyRob 04-18-2005 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
selling memberships to your paysite is selling content

I like the content that he bought from AaronM and offered to give him 500 our our amateur style, girl next door sets in exchange for the content that he bought from Aaron, so that I could use it on a membership site. AaronM won't let him do that.

DateDoc 04-18-2005 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ContentProducer
I like the content that he bought from AaronM and offered to give him 500 our our amateur style, girl next door sets in exchange for the content that he bought from Aaron, so that I could use it on a membership site. AaronM won't let him do that.

There have been several methods proffered that could have resolved this. Sonofsam take Sherie up on her offer. Get the licenses and 2257, send them to Content Producer for his content you want and we'll all be happy! :thumbsup

Damian_Maxcash 04-18-2005 07:47 PM

Aaron I have never been your biggest fan but I gave you credit for your work and business sense. This is low and I am shocked by this thread and your behavior.

Some newb asks for some GND content and you show him some good stuff that you have picked out...... Pretty standard and I wouldnt have expected that all the content in the pack would be of that standard; but preggos, BBWs and some butt ugly dyke.... WTF?

Now you and Donavon are trying to tell him that you are doing him a favor, this is the content that will sell..... again WTF?

Who do you 2 think you are telling a customer that he isnt getting what he wanted "for his own good"?

You bent this guy over and fucked him hard.... You have got your kicks now do the right thing and give him a refund. He cant use the content, everyone on GFY will make sure of that.

Have you seen that footage of the 2 killer whales tossing a still living seal pup around, playing with it?.... Thats what this reminds me of.... and it dosnt make you look good.

sonofsam 04-18-2005 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001
Aaron I have never been your biggest fan but I gave you credit for your work and business sense. This is low and I am shocked by this thread and your behavior.

Some newb asks for some GND content and you show him some good stuff that you have picked out...... Pretty standard and I wouldnt have expected that all the content in the pack would be of that standard; but preggos, BBWs and some butt ugly dyke.... WTF?

Now you and Donavon are trying to tell him that you are doing him a favor, this is the content that will sell..... again WTF?

Who do you 2 think you are telling a customer that he isnt getting what he wanted "for his own good"?

You bent this guy over and fucked him hard.... You have got your kicks now do the right thing and give him a refund. He cant use the content, everyone on GFY will make sure of that.

Have you seen that footage of the 2 killer whales tossing a still living seal pup around, playing with it?.... Thats what this reminds me of.... and it dosnt make you look good.

hes sueing me... he has his lawyer filing it tomorrow for copywrite infringement... because i posted samples in this thread when he provoked me to do so.....

CDSmith 04-18-2005 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
you told me it was "girl next door" girls.. you never said it was in various niches..

why would i asked for a pregnant set + bbw sets included with "girl next door" sets?

Wait, why can't a girl living next door to someone be fat, or pregnant, or a goth?

Girl-next-door types come in all flavors. Those goths and bbw's etc all live next door to someone, right?

Okay carry on....

sonofsam 04-18-2005 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Wait, why can't a girl living next door to someone be fat, or pregnant, or a goth?

Girl-next-door types come in all flavors. Those goths and bbw's etc all live next door to someone, right?

Okay carry on....

Yah and technically a girl next door would fall into BBW niche.. but would they place her under the "girl next door" section if it was a content store because its possible? no.

CDSmith 04-18-2005 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
hes sueing me... he has his lawyer filing it tomorrow for copywrite infringement... because i posted samples in this thread when he provoked me to do so.....

Well, your defense of course will be that you posted them on a message board for the purposes of attempting to solve the dispute, not for profit.

Also, a good lawyer would be able to come up with a good countersuit, but you didn't hear that from me. :winkwink:

quiet 04-18-2005 08:04 PM

strange days...

sonofsam 04-18-2005 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet
strange days...

You can say that again...

CDSmith 04-18-2005 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam
Yah and technically a girl next door would fall into BBW niche.. but would they place her under the "girl next door" section if it was a content store because its possible? no.

Then again, if out of 60K+ pictures, only a handful of sets were of certain niche girl-next-door types, I'm not sure if a 5 page piss thread is warranted. I'm betting that had you just paid Aaron in full before all this happened and at the same time asked to exchange a few sets for more suitable ones this thread would not exist.

I've spokent to Aaron before as well, and I've always sensed that he's a lot like me in that he only gets this way when he feels someone is trying to fuck with him.

sonofsam 04-18-2005 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Then again, if out of 60K+ pictures, only a handful of sets were of certain niche girl-next-door types, I'm not sure if a 5 page piss thread is warranted. I'm betting that had you just paid Aaron in full before all this happened and at the same time asked to exchange a few sets for more suitable ones this thread would not exist.

I've spokent to Aaron before as well, and I've always sensed that he's a lot like me in that he only gets this way when he feels someone is trying to fuck with him.

i would post more sample pics... but he already contacted serverprovider about shutting down my site because of copywrite infringement

CDSmith 04-18-2005 08:10 PM

Bottom line: you're two grown men, the problem is solvable.

Solve this.





Why do people leave it up to ICQ when trying to work shit out? Chrisesakes people pick up a PHONE once in a while.


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