Originally Posted by AaronM

That was never the deal.

If you wish to continue discussing private numbers and so forth in public then as far as I am concerned, you can kiss my hairy black ass.

Any questions?

Originally Posted by sonofsam

hes sueing me... he has his lawyer filing it tomorrow for copywrite infringement... because i posted samples in this thread when he provoked me to do so.....

Originally Posted by sonofsam

i would post more sample pics... but he already contacted serverprovider about shutting down my site because of copywrite infringement

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Uhh I would advise against posting more pics or even thinking about posting more pics at this point.

I skipped over several pages of this thread, did you phone him yet?

Originally Posted by sonofsam

hes not allowed to talk to me anymore, his lawyer says so....

but before this i have talked to him a lot on the phone...

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Well we'll just have to see how this all plays out then. Looks to me like this is just another one of those stupid situations that has blown all out of proportion that should have/could have been solved very early-on with a small bit of compromise on both sides.


By the way, to that part of the argument about you paying him in Canadian funds and him wanting US funds..... dude, I got to say.... I thought everybody who has spent more than five minutes in this busines knows that most if not ALL transactions, especially with an American like Aaron is, are in US FUNDS. That should have been a given, a non-issue, a no-brainer. Period.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Aaron ol boy, I think now might be the time to resolve this one.

You have this guy where you want him, seems everyone else realizes from this example that you're not an easy guy to fuck with, so I think you've made the point.

Of course, this could all be staged drama that I'm buying into. Don't think it doesn't cross my mind every time I see this kind of thread. If it is real it looks to me like it is easily solvable. exchange some of the sets, at the same time get paid, end of story.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Wait, why can't a girl living next door to someone be fat, or pregnant, or a goth?

Girl-next-door types come in all flavors. Those goths and bbw's etc all live next door to someone, right?

Okay carry on....

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Aaron ol boy, I think now might be the time to resolve this one.

You have this guy where you want him, seems everyone else realizes from this example that you're not an easy guy to fuck with, so I think you've made the point.

Of course, this could all be staged drama that I'm buying into. Don't think it doesn't cross my mind every time I see this kind of thread. If it is real it looks to me like it is easily solvable. exchange some of the sets, at the same time get paid, end of story.

Originally Posted by Alex

No.
The girl next door is a type. She is your small shy cute amatuer looking girl.

Originally Posted by ContentProducer

Why do you keep saying sonofsam is "fucking with aaron"?
He is not fucking with him. For fuck's sake he paid $4,500!!
And can't do shit. I would be fucking pissed too.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Obviously from Aaron's perspective he is being fucked with. That's why.

Let's solve this rather than bitch about the small stuff, okay?

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Tell that to someone living in low-rent housing. Not every street is your street.

Originally Posted by Alex

The girl next door is a type. She is your small shy cute amatuer looking girl.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Tell that to someone living in low-rent housing. Not every street is your street.

Originally Posted by Antonio

oh, and btw:

Q: So what is "fair use"?
A: This is a very limited right to use an excerpt of copyrighted work to illustrate or as an example in educational or political discussion. No money may change hands and the use must be strictly noncommercial (this includes institutional and governmental).

Without being a lawyer I believe this is exactly what happened here, you posted a few images to illustrate (make a point) and that was strictly noncommercial ;)

Originally Posted by sonofsam

trust me i would love to solve it, i would even be willing to let him keep 500 and refund my money... or at least try and work something out with me... rather then sueing me

Originally Posted by Alex

No it is a lot more defined that then. We have niches down in place so we dont have to guess this stuff.


Next-door is not babe, but its your reguluar cute amatuer girl.

We have blad for bald niche paysites and fat for fat niche paysties and hardcore for hardcore niched paysites.

Your logic is flawed because it would be the same to say that if a dominatrix was surfing and landed across a hardocre partying site and to her it was considerent "softcore"

There is no comparing in niches. Its defined.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Look, I produced and sold amateur style girl next door stuff for years, I know what it is.

Can a black girl be GNS? Yes? But that's also a cross-niche! What about an asian girl? Wait, why can't a girl next door be a bit chubby again?

One of our arguments is flawed, just not mine. There is no "one way" to do everything, much as some of you would like to believe.

And again, you are now trying to start a side argument. Maybe the real lesson here is that when you buy content you don't buy a big bulk collection without seeing and inspecting EVERY set first. I know there are many content providers at whose sites you can peruse sets and pick and choose the ones you want. Maybe it takes you a few days to go over it all in order to get what you want, but isn't that better than ending up in this kind of mess?

I think it is.

Originally Posted by sonofsam

Btw... Aaron offered to drop the lawsuit if i made a thread apologizing for trying to make him look bad.... but i told him i would NOT say what i think / feel in exchange for money... voicing an opinion and sticking to it is worth a lot more then a 10 grand lawsuit... even though i don't have 10 grand to lose.

Originally Posted by Antonio

Up untill now I didn't really care about AaronM, but I always taught that when it comes to business he was a stand-up man, judging by this thread he's a real cocksucker.

And btw he's not going to sue you, he's just trying to scare you !!!

Originally Posted by sonofsam

this is not staged... you have my word on that...

Originally Posted by Alex

Im not going to argue with you. Because its subtracting of the main point.

There is a person here who actually wants to make it right. Actually wants the content and wants to pay him while another is just brushing him off.

Originally Posted by Alex

:1orglaugh

Dont you get it. How long have you been in the business, better yet how long have you been doing it sucuessfully.

The whole business is about selling fantasy for most.
No one dreams about actucally fucking the girl next door to them, becuase she actually might be some fat ugly bald chick.
What they have is a picture of the shy amatuer looking girl and thats why the surf and join paysites.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

You're repeating basically what I already said. Good move.

And have you actually read any of my previous posts? I've done nothing BUT try to encourage a solution here.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

You obviously have no clue what surfers want.

Originally Posted by AaronM

You silly little man.

The 10.5k is for copyright violations and no matter what any of these arm chair attornies tell you....You and I both know that you did violate that copyright and that's all there is to that.

You also lied about taking the images down yourself. In fact...The majority of the things you have said in this thread are lies.

The 10.5 coyright case is a slam dunk....Now my concern lies with the damnage that your lies and deciet have done to my reputation. When I read posts like the following one from Antonio, it makes me even more angry...And then people have the balls to suggest that I just drop this???? And here you are again replying to this thread in another effort to make me look bad.


Here's the post y Antonio that I am referring to...Followed by proof that you lied earlier when you said that YOU removed the images yourself....

Now please...Keep telling more lies so that I have even better documentation on file.






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Hello Aaron,
We have contacted the tech support department and the images were taken
down.

Please let us know if we can assist you any futher.

Regards:
ServerProvider.Com Abuse Dept.
1-888-3124113

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Matthews" <EDITED>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Copyright violation


> Hello.
>
> You have a client who is currently violating my copyright by posting 14
> images to a public area from your server. This client and I are having a
> dispute on the content and at this point, he has not made payment in full
> or been granted a license for the use of my images.
>
> The clients name is Mike Bani and here are the links to the images in
> question:
>
> www.juliablue.com/content/1.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/2.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/3.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/4.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/5.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/6.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/7.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/8.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/9.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/10.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/11.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/12.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/13.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/14.jpg
>
>
>
> At this point, I will be seeking damages from Mr. Bani for the multiple
> copyright violations and I would greatly appreciate you removing these
> images from your server in order to prevent future copyright violations.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Aaron Matthews

Originally Posted by CDSmith

sonofsam --- a question...

would you be willing to pay Aaron the remainder of the bill if he was willing to change out some of the content?

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Aaron --- a question...

Originally Posted by baddog

His neighborhood just lost power. Could be a while before he responds.

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Doesn't his part of the country buy their electricity from Canada? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by baddog

I did not know people paid for electricity. I thought all you had to do was flick a switch, and it was on.

Originally Posted by Alex

I know that if im advertising on teen sites or using teen niched traffic, i find i make more money when i avoid sending to goth paysites or fat niche paysites.

Originally Posted by baddog

I did not know people paid for electricity. I thought all you had to do was flick a switch, and it was on.

Originally Posted by sonofsam

so let me get this straight, customer is unhappy with the content.... customer and producer argue back and forth if the content is girl next door or not.... customer asks if he can post it.... producer provokes him... customer posts it.... producer files lawsuit..


gotcha.

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Link hotten. This seems quite relevant:

http://klixxx.com/sticky/april_bomb.jpg