Aaron I have never been your biggest fan but I gave you credit for your work and business sense. This is low and I am shocked by this thread and your behavior.

Some newb asks for some GND content and you show him some good stuff that you have picked out...... Pretty standard and I wouldnt have expected that all the content in the pack would be of that standard; but preggos, BBWs and some butt ugly dyke.... WTF?

Now you and Donavon are trying to tell him that you are doing him a favor, this is the content that will sell..... again WTF?

Who do you 2 think you are telling a customer that he isnt getting what he wanted "for his own good"?

You bent this guy over and fucked him hard.... You have got your kicks now do the right thing and give him a refund. He cant use the content, everyone on GFY will make sure of that.

Have you seen that footage of the 2 killer whales tossing a still living seal pup around, playing with it?.... Thats what this reminds me of.... and it dosnt make you look good.

hes sueing me... he has his lawyer filing it tomorrow for copywrite infringement... because i posted samples in this thread when he provoked me to do so.....

Wait, why can't a girl living next door to someone be fat, or pregnant, or a goth?

Girl-next-door types come in all flavors. Those goths and bbw's etc all live next door to someone, right?

Okay carry on....

Yah and technically a girl next door would fall into BBW niche.. but would they place her under the "girl next door" section if it was a content store because its possible? no.

Well, your defense of course will be that you posted them on a message board for the purposes of attempting to solve the dispute, not for profit.

Also, a good lawyer would be able to come up with a good countersuit, but you didn't hear that from me. :winkwink:

strange days...

You can say that again...

Then again, if out of 60K+ pictures, only a handful of sets were of certain niche girl-next-door types, I'm not sure if a 5 page piss thread is warranted. I'm betting that had you just paid Aaron in full before all this happened and at the same time asked to exchange a few sets for more suitable ones this thread would not exist.

I've spokent to Aaron before as well, and I've always sensed that he's a lot like me in that he only gets this way when he feels someone is trying to fuck with him.

i would post more sample pics... but he already contacted serverprovider about shutting down my site because of copywrite infringement

Bottom line: you're two grown men, the problem is solvable.

Solve this.





Why do people leave it up to ICQ when trying to work shit out? Chrisesakes people pick up a PHONE once in a while.

250.........

You are black? All this time i thought you were white.. I am lost. :disgust

:1orglaugh you really believe it? then counter sue... :1orglaugh

Uhh I would advise against posting more pics or even thinking about posting more pics at this point.

I skipped over several pages of this thread, did you phone him yet?

hes not allowed to talk to me anymore, his lawyer says so....

but before this i have talked to him a lot on the phone...

Well we'll just have to see how this all plays out then. Looks to me like this is just another one of those stupid situations that has blown all out of proportion that should have/could have been solved very early-on with a small bit of compromise on both sides.


By the way, to that part of the argument about you paying him in Canadian funds and him wanting US funds..... dude, I got to say.... I thought everybody who has spent more than five minutes in this busines knows that most if not ALL transactions, especially with an American like Aaron is, are in US FUNDS. That should have been a given, a non-issue, a no-brainer. Period.

i completely understand, thats why we discussed the issue RIGHT away ...... its not like we are argueing about it down the road... we talked about it right away.. before he lifted a finger with anything....
and to the compromise part... i told him i was willing to let him keep 500 of it for the trouble of a refund

finally read this whole thread and all I have to say is, Aaron, give the guy a break. you're being really stubborn over this and I know you feel like you've been nice enough to him, but hanging him to dry over $4500 is a big punch in the stomach, let him off the hook.

and dont worr sonofsam, he cant sue you like hes claiming. its BS

Up untill now I didn't really care about AaronM, but I always taught that when it comes to business he was a stand-up man, judging by this thread he's a real cocksucker.

And btw he's not going to sue you, he's just trying to scare you !!!

Btw... Aaron offered to drop the lawsuit if i made a thread apologizing for trying to make him look bad.... but i told him i would NOT say what i think / feel in exchange for money... voicing an opinion and sticking to it is worth a lot more then a 10 grand lawsuit... even though i don't have 10 grand to lose.

Aaron ol boy, I think now might be the time to resolve this one.

You have this guy where you want him, seems everyone else realizes from this example that you're not an easy guy to fuck with, so I think you've made the point.

Of course, this could all be staged drama that I'm buying into. Don't think it doesn't cross my mind every time I see this kind of thread. If it is real it looks to me like it is easily solvable. exchange some of the sets, at the same time get paid, end of story.

this is not staged... you have my word on that...

No.
The girl next door is a type. She is your small shy cute amatuer looking girl.

Why do you keep saying sonofsam is "fucking with aaron"?
He is not fucking with him. For fuck's sake he paid $4,500!!
And can't do shit. I would be fucking pissed too.

Tell that to someone living in low-rent housing. Not every street is your street.

Obviously from Aaron's perspective he is being fucked with. That's why.

Let's solve this rather than bitch about the small stuff, okay?

trust me i would love to solve it, i would even be willing to let him keep 500 and refund my money... or at least try and work something out with me... rather then sueing me

No it is a lot more defined that then. We have niches down in place so we dont have to guess this stuff.


Next-door is not babe, but its your reguluar cute amatuer girl.

We have blad for bald niche paysites and fat for fat niche paysties and hardcore for hardcore niched paysites.

Your logic is flawed because it would be the same to say that if a dominatrix was surfing and landed across a hardocre partying site and to her it was considerent "softcore"

There is no comparing in niches. Its defined.

Yes, this is girl next door. I am sure out of 60,000 sets there are some of them like this. But this is what he was looking for I am sure.

http://www.handjobcontent.com/girlnextdoor.jpg

:1orglaugh

Dont you get it. How long have you been in the business, better yet how long have you been doing it sucuessfully.

The whole business is about selling fantasy for most.
No one dreams about actucally fucking the girl next door to them, becuase she actually might be some fat ugly bald chick.
What they have is a picture of the shy amatuer looking girl and thats why the surf and join paysites.

oh, and btw:

Q: So what is "fair use"?
A: This is a very limited right to use an excerpt of copyrighted work to illustrate or as an example in educational or political discussion. No money may change hands and the use must be strictly noncommercial (this includes institutional and governmental).

Without being a lawyer I believe this is exactly what happened here, you posted a few images to illustrate (make a point) and that was strictly noncommercial ;)

True. There will be no lawsuit. I am quite sure of that.

I would be shocked if he sues you... He knows he has lost in this thread, he has come accross as a bully. Nobody likes a bully.

He has stated in this thread that he dosnt care what GFY thinks of him.... trust me he does, if he sues you he will lose - in every way

My guess is that the reason he isnt posting has nothing to do with lawyers, its because he is to busy trying to get this thread closed.

Look, I produced and sold amateur style girl next door stuff for years, I know what it is.

Can a black girl be GNS? Yes? But that's also a cross-niche! What about an asian girl? Wait, why can't a girl next door be a bit chubby again?

One of our arguments is flawed, just not mine. There is no "one way" to do everything, much as some of you would like to believe.

And again, you are now trying to start a side argument. Maybe the real lesson here is that when you buy content you don't buy a big bulk collection without seeing and inspecting EVERY set first. I know there are many content providers at whose sites you can peruse sets and pick and choose the ones you want. Maybe it takes you a few days to go over it all in order to get what you want, but isn't that better than ending up in this kind of mess?

I think it is.

Im not going to argue with you. Because its subtracting of the main point.

There is a person here who actually wants to make it right. Actually wants the content and wants to pay him while another is just brushing him off.

You silly little man.

The 10.5k is for copyright violations and no matter what any of these arm chair attornies tell you....You and I both know that you did violate that copyright and that's all there is to that.

You also lied about taking the images down yourself. In fact...The majority of the things you have said in this thread are lies.

The 10.5 coyright case is a slam dunk....Now my concern lies with the damnage that your lies and deciet have done to my reputation. When I read posts like the following one from Antonio, it makes me even more angry...And then people have the balls to suggest that I just drop this???? And here you are again replying to this thread in another effort to make me look bad.


Here's the post y Antonio that I am referring to...Followed by proof that you lied earlier when you said that YOU removed the images yourself....

Now please...Keep telling more lies so that I have even better documentation on file.




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Hello Aaron,
We have contacted the tech support department and the images were taken
down.

Please let us know if we can assist you any futher.

Regards:
ServerProvider.Com Abuse Dept.
1-888-3124113

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Matthews" <EDITED>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Copyright violation


> Hello.
>
> You have a client who is currently violating my copyright by posting 14
> images to a public area from your server. This client and I are having a
> dispute on the content and at this point, he has not made payment in full
> or been granted a license for the use of my images.
>
> The clients name is Mike Bani and here are the links to the images in
> question:
>
> www.juliablue.com/content/1.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/2.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/3.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/4.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/5.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/6.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/7.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/8.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/9.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/10.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/11.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/12.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/13.jpg
> www.juliablue.com/content/14.jpg
>
>
>
> At this point, I will be seeking damages from Mr. Bani for the multiple
> copyright violations and I would greatly appreciate you removing these
> images from your server in order to prevent future copyright violations.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Aaron Matthews

After a thread filled with you lies.....Your word is worth fuck all.

You're repeating basically what I already said. Good move.

And have you actually read any of my previous posts? I've done nothing BUT try to encourage a solution here.

That was hell of a deal you got from aaron, take my word on this.

You obviously have no clue what surfers want.