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Any legit sponsor would allow 1 test join. A test join with notification is worthless. Although everything worked properly in this case it seems ( except the outcome ).. If i did a test join and a sponsor contacted me about it , then everything basically worked properly.. I sure dont want to share my revenue with some webmaster doing 50 test joins ( fraud ). I dont think a sponsor should be blamed for wanting answers from an affiliate from ( any sale ) . Although the wording of such is obviously key in keeping an affiliate happy. |
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I asked him if he had someone do a "test join" he admited to it.. so I told him.. that we would just deduct that join from his account.. and his account would be left open.. we didn't even "fraud" him out... he chose to act like an idiot... could you imagine what it could cost a PPS company if they let everyone of their affiliates do a test join??? we have over 20,000 accounts... if everyone of those webmasters did a "test" join.... it would be a very costly "test"... please don;t try to read into this too much.. they guy has no traffic... one hit and one join.. from his friend... I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt and asked him ... in a polite way.. If I didn't handle this professionally.. I apologize.. and I hope someone can please tell me how to do my job better.. thanks |
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greg you're so full of shit your eyes are brown... :1orglaugh
i dont know the term "test join" as being a webmaster is not my main source of income, and i only have one site and promote sites only ive been on. i have no knowledge of your geeky webmaster terms. which is why i emailed you again immediately because i knew you were up to something. you honestly think if i was scamming you, id be like "oh ya dude that was me". as you can see you basically just helped me by showing them i told you i didnt know she bought the membership. i tried to contact you and you did nothing to get in touch with me. i mean you got my phone number dude, grow a fucking set of balls. think for one second why i would scam you for $20. so i can split it with my friend $10 each, and pay her back for her credit card charge? it would cost me $$$ to this elaborate $1 trial scam on you lol i got $10 in empty soda cans in my garage fawwwk off... i am own3d...for actually thinking you'd do something about this other than your "attourney-like" responses and portray your "you are a fraud, case closed" attitude. real professional... :thumbsup |
Zane let me know when you open your affiliate program, I got loads of traffic to send.
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I was just trying to mention its not a "fraud" situation , but more like an affiliate who didnt understand that because of the way it happened it would "surely" hit any "red light" fraud protection in place. Regardless of the intent. When i mentioned that all sponsors should allow test signups ( without prior notification ) i didn't mention , that if an affilaite does do this it's under the affiliates obligation to contact the sponsor and let them know within 48 hours that they did a "test" signup , because lets be realistic , a test signup is worthless with "notification". That being said this wasn't a "test signup" or a fraud , but more of a misunderstanding |
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so someone clicks a link form his site that has a referal code in it and she signs up and it's considered fraud because he talked to her? Shit/
SO if we talk to people and they sign up it's fraud? No talking allowed? I don't follow. If it weren't for him you wouldn't have gotten the sale most likely. So what's the big deal? Normally I think this kid is an idiot but I have to side with him on this one. |
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fawwwk at least someone can see it from my point of view. i talked to that girl briefly 2x in my life..... :disgust |
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Well the shame is , that its just a wierd occurance that just doesnt happen very often.. I totally agree that it wasn't fraud , and furthermore , i dont see any reason why you shouldn't still recieve credit for the sale.. You did what any affiliate is supposed to do.. you marketted the product for them.. no shame in that.. Maybe you just thought the intent was wrong on their part in how they contacted you * maybe theres something i didnt read * but that kind of sale is going to throw up red flags at any affiliate program.. |
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Similar drama with SIC Cash was a month ago on another board. :2 cents:
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Not being a webmaster, you obviously didn't realise that one hit + one sale + one cancellation = flagged for fraud investigation.
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Sic Cash give him the money, he needs to go to the gym. It appears that he doesn't have to money to do so.
http://www.phatzanexxx.com/profilepic.jpg Help out the out shape no muscle male content. :upsidedow |
I don't follow, how is he responsible for a signup someone else clicks through his website to see?
People cancel trials all of the time, just because you have a little "more info" (he's banged her) on why she bought a trial in the first place doesn't mean there is some elaborate scheme going on. The girl wanted to see 1 video, she tried the site out, she cancelled. Happens all the time. What is the problem? How is it fraud? Are word of mouth sales no longer allowed in this industry? 5 or 10 joins, sure possible fraudulent activity / scheme. 1 fucking join at a low ratio and your flags go off? Its instantly fraud because he knew the person? C'mon guys, its a small world... you should have let it pan out just a little longer to find out what was really going on. Automated software can't be right all of the time. |
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You wouldnt believe how many people I bust days after for signing up under their own account, then they scream "TEST SALE!!!!!!!!!!!" I think i might of only ever got two emails from people telling me they did a test sale, and I already knew about it, and that was fine. |
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Girl: Had fun working with you a while back, can I see your first video? Zane: Yea go to my website and signup for a trial to "whateversite", its on there. Girl: Ok 1 visit, 1 signup, 1 trial cancellation How is that fraud? I understand the fraud FLAG, but to just jack the guy for his comission and say it screams fraud for refering someone to the site seems a little shitty. Just because she knew to cancel her trial (she does do porn afterall) doesn't mean he TOLD her to do so. Ah well whatever, it doesn't matter anymore either way... i'm sure the TOS covers this. |
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so all this is really over about 1.95 cents?
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Well there will always be scammers i suppose , but if a webmaster has sent sales it just wouldn't make sense to try to slip a "self" sale in with them.. but i dont doubt it happens.. You would be suprised how many webmasters think this is acceptable without telling the sponsor after.. In theory i suppose they think it's not going to hurt the sponsor , but your right if every affiliate did this it would.. The moral of the story... Send so many sales to your sponsors , one "test" signup wouldnt even phase them.. :thumbsup |
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a friend of mine got his account shut off for "fraud." didn't make any sense though. he just cut his losses and moved on.
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You people are being way too nasty to our little Hobbit friend! Just remember that he's got a gang to back him up. Huggles beware!
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