150 scammers...

I don't mean to be hard on you Alien, I happen to know that IRL you're a nice and helpful guy and there's no harm in you. I'm just trying to tell you that this new persona you have is fucking you up and you should stop.

Nice to see you got your bot fixed

Hey Dig420 you better watch out.
Your sig says you have the best conversion, longest retention, and highest payout for interracial traffic.
You better be able to prove that or AlienQ will call his lawyers.

Also, I think the term "Dark Cavern" was patented by the Visigoth's in 384....you shouldn't try to profit from someone else's term :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

35 per join on darkcavern, I offer 35 per FREE TRIAL on my fetishbucks sites, and I'll tell you this: darkcavern.com OWNS it's niche absolutely, tons of classified personal ads in the member area, a chatroom on the tour that usually has over 100 people chatting at any time, it's a real community site and people stay members for a long, long time.

I DO believe we have the longest retention of any comparably sized site, I DO believe we convert the best on targeted traffic, and if anyone is paying more per join I'll match them and beat them. Darkcavern.com is a fucking gold mine.

god damn :1orglaugh

124 surfers chatting on the darkcavern.com forum right this minute. How many paysites can do that?

my nipples are still hard

yeah that came out a little meaner than I wanted, hence my softer post immediately following. Alien really isn't a bad guy, he's just intent on committing hari-kari on GFY and it's painful to watch.

Sometimes I get carried away ;)

Hey I believe you...I've seen your site and I can tell you really understand your niche.

I was making fun of AlienQ with that post....not taking shots at you :thumbsup

It might help if you took them out of the ice bucket

Yes I know that, but if I didn't take that opportunity to preach the virtues of DC what kind of webmaster would I be?

:thumbsup

Yes so go hop in your car and pull into your mansion now that ya got the money that ya have worked hard for and berate the same guy that helped you on the boards from way back.
Fuck you dude.
I have every right to speak to what I like, ya don't have to read it.
I enjoy helping people and try to help the peeps that come through this biz and leave this biz.

I know every mother fucking thing about an affiliates program, every script available from god damn River Styx to Executive stats, to MPA. Shit I even thought of some things regarding MPA and told Garry to pursue Cascading solutions in a boxed application when you were picking your ass trying to figure out the CCBILL scrub. I was thinking ahead then just like I do now and never been sharper. I know almost every mother fucking popular tour on the net these days and even have insite to several I have built personally and know how they perform. I reccomend exit reutines, support issue's content buys and much more than your lazy ass ever cared to even fucken think about.

In all honesty ya better be thankful I have never openned a program. But I will tell you one thing. I have helped plenty of fucking ingrates like yourself through out my career only to be stabbed in the back once they found success.

:1orglaugh I guess the term "sheep" suit you well ... Can you add 1 + 1 ? Pick up some clues..? Follow some patterns? Use your judgement..? Or do you have any..? I mean.. it doesnt take Sherlock Holmes to see that MetaformX is a pathological liar... :2 cents:

alright then bro, you just keep doing what you're doing. You can tell me later whether it was a good career move. :error

But do tell us this: With all of this knowledge, this vast repertoire of sheer webmaster godhood to utilize, you've never managed to make your mark.

Why not?

And yes: Me, Marc De, Ron Levi - we're all eternally grateful you never opened your own program. Surely we would be out of business by now if you had ;)

Also Alien, and I think this is where you might be getting confused and not just with me - If I throw you some work because you seemed like a nice guy at a convention, that does not equal you 'helping me'. That equals me throwing you a bone.

If this were the case...

Lens and his folks can look at the IP's of the nics.
There are more affluent way's to getting the truth.

If MetaformX does have multiple handles...
And used em for his publicity to open his program, it is kinda an interesting technique but maybe just a little to overboard just to get his program in gear. To sum it up, it's to elaborate and to risky of a shot to make it worth while.

Even if he did do that...
So what.

So the fuck what.
Its still abut the bttm line.
People send traffic, it works fine it does not send to someone else. Webmasters are whores and go for the best fuck anyways.

If his prgram does well it does not matter a fuck what hedoes on the boards cuz its still about bottm line. He been trying to open the program for 2 years.
It's finally up and working. He launches it and there is nothing but blood shed frm you people. I must admit I would expect more sites on his program, 2 years is a weeee bit to long but fuck it...
He openned it and its available.

There was a day when you struggled on the boards.
I was there with ya and helped you publicly out of the kindness of my stupid bleeding heart.
I am glad ya only see it all as a "Bone" or a "Nice guy" thing.
I taught your god damn designer photoshop and made reccomendations to em ALL THE TIME, and had him come to my house as ya pitched em for a drug habit that he had.

I helped get em clean after ya tore his ass up.

Maybe I should have just sided with Serge and his clan all along, I have gottin more love from them over the years without the back stabbing and ingrateful bullshit I get from people I have sided with in the past...

So Alien, please tell us this... with all of this knowledge, program experience, designing skills, content experience, etc, etc, etc, why haven't you opened this so called ingenious program that you are capable of? What's holding you back? Time? Money? Or are you just way too smart to open up a silly little program like everyone else does?

I'm no genius, but I'm no idiot either. It took me a long time, but eventually I realized that I don't make any money sitting around telling other people how they should make their money. I shut up and got to work. This year I'm going to make 3 times what I did last year. Thats pretty fucking cool.

Why don't you do the same? Take your skills and put them to work. Hell you don't even need skills, all you need to do is take each piece of the puzzle and put them together nice and tight.

I fought with Serge because everyone worth their salt must fight with Serge at least once. He ended up marrying my lawyer. He loves me now.

I miss him :(

Simple.
I prefer to build the shit for other people, owning the bitch is a fucken headache. If I were to do it it would require capital cuz it would be flawless.

...and I miss $289,236.78 you have in outstanding legal bills!

I am only kidding,
Bernie ows us nothing but good memorries
:)

Dig420, is somebody fucking with you?
Bring them wine and drop it on their heads, repeatedly
:)

Wine is for elitist, intellectual snobs. I thought you were a republican ;)

Nobody's fucking with me, they know I'll go get Serge so they leave me alone lol

AllienQ,
splitting $2,783,000,000 among the clan members with you not present was a real tragedy, you were missed....
:)

you thought wrong....wine is for everybody with excess cash which needs drainage. :)

yes, you go but...you never fly, you chicken you!
:)

That would have given him enough capital to FINALLY start his own program, so he could SHOW us how to make money instead of just telling us what we're doing wrong.

You should have thrown him a bone :1orglaugh

God is my witness - I tried but...you can bring horse to the water, but you can't force a horse to drink it
:)

Nothing irrational about not getting in a metal tube that cruises at 40,000 feet with no visibile means of support. Just ask the remaining members of Lynryd Skynrd or Mrs. Buddy Holly about that ;)

I can't tell the difference between a fine burgundy and grape juice. I think it's all just a giant plot to make me feel uncultured :1orglaugh

It's all about timing.

Maybe your timing was wrong.

well I'll tell you what Alien: I'll give you the content, I'll give you the hosting, I'll even arrange for the billing of your site if you need it. I'll give you a jump start with some traffic from DC.

All you have to do is design the site and run it. Let's see what you can do.

Is the timing still wrong?

dig, he likes to keep it simple and only design. Read above.

;-)

You openning a bank?
Thats what really matters.

I dont give a shit about any of that.
I got all that already. I need a bank.

Find me a processor, gimmeh Merchant account.
10 so will do.

what?? no comprende senor. Try it in English.

5 merchants in US
3 Offshore.

2 for my personnal.

1 US Business liscense I prefer Nevada, you can put your name on it to.
We can do 80% mine 20% for you.
I already got content.
Got my own HD Camara and gear.

I also need another 40K for start up and monthly bills. I currently juggle 6 clients and turn out about 5-8 tours with a week with an overhead of about 4K a month.

I am sure most ya would prefer to see me right where I am otherwise one of you fools would have stepped up by now for real. Tired of proving my shit to folks. I post on boards now to help people out and ad my 2 cents where ever I please and obviously after all these years I still aint down. So I am doing my shit right. Ya need a partner get serious, ya do not want a partner ya want a victim...

What on Earth are you talking about now?

so now you're waiting for someone to step up and give you 40k cash, 8 merchant accounts and a new startup company? And you're angry because it hasn't happened yet? :1orglaugh

True, but in some cases you just have to hold the damn horses head under water til he finally drowns ;)

Oh and I have built a few affiliate programs from scratch with multiple sites and members area's in under 3 months complete with photos, galleries, movies and pluggins.

SO am I fucking qualified to talk my shit?

Hell yeah I am.

Interesting, I underwrite merchant accounts. You want one, let me know.

Put up or shut up I guess.

now we're getting some all-stars in this thread ;)

what's up KK?

This thread went waaaaaayyyyyy off the beaten path.

I think this is one of the old cases of "I can't do anything unless I have all of the proper tools handed to me on a silver platter."

Excuse after excuse.

He still needs 40k and someone to open a Nevada corp. for him :upsidedow

Ya talk like 40K is a big deal...
It aint shit, it's a piss in the bucket.

Hell I seen 40K on a table get sniffed up...

It aint shit to some people.

Hey I trademarked that phrase two days ago when I started a thread on GFY.....quit using it for your own personal gain :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Working on spread sheets and boring stuff like that. This thread has turned into a train wreck, you just can't help but look ;)

You should come up this way for lunch one day.

Actually he needs 40k and someone to front him the 1500 for the Phillipines corp if he wants me to process him... ;-}}}}

Whats so train wreck about it?

Did someone post to many dollar signs and set off your board tracker?