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Shoehorn! 05-21-2005 02:05 AM

This is a great interview so far. :thumbsup

ynuahayt 05-21-2005 04:08 AM

I don't get my galleries listed often at PR but when I do it's one helluva boost :) - also wanted to popin and say thanks for these interviews, great reads for both newbies and oldtimers :)

Rui 05-21-2005 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty
Persiankitty.com today runs on two beefy servers with more connectivity the most ISPs have. I've been very very lucky to have aligned myself with a server guy who cares about what he does.

I totally respect you but what sort of isp's are you talking about (ones located in Iraq and south africa? :p)

Axeman 05-21-2005 10:28 AM

looking forward to the rest of the answers PK. nice detailed story about how you got started

Drake 05-21-2005 11:59 AM

Do you see yourself selling PK ever... in the near future?

clickhappy 05-21-2005 12:08 PM

pk, what was the first big ticket item you bought when you started to make some money?

boneprone 05-21-2005 12:18 PM

Known PK for a very long time.

I remember years and years ago I think it was back in 96 when i was submitting galleries to her and had links to boneprone and my other site MJ's Classy Ladies on the gallereis to boost my traffic.

I didnt promote any sponsors on my gallereis, made no money on the galleries, just had some nice gallereis with links to my main sites on em..

For many years sites like Persiankitty, Tommy's Bookmarks, and Luciano, along with infoseek, yahoo, and excite fueled my sites with traffic via these gallereis I made. And the traffic filtered through those gallleries that clicked to my mainsites made a $$ killing..

Good ole days..

When I look back to the good ole days names like Persian Kitty, Tommy's, AL4a, MaxCash, Click Through Calvin, Slick's Bikini and PornQueens all come to mind..

Damn it was so long ago it seems.

boneprone 05-21-2005 12:24 PM

Hmmm. Ive been having a walk down memory lane for the past 30 minutes..

Thinking About PK..

Damn.. I remember back in the day actually jerking off to her site!! Damn!!
Horny lil perv I was 10 years ago.

Now that should be an honor.. I think it was in 1996-1997.. Damn. NOt many sites I can remember jerking to back in my college days, but that was the one I remember!!

I rememeber she had the super high rez quality Persian Kitty Purfect pose or perfect pic of the day.. It was real real hot.. In fact I rememeber my harddrive had a bunch of those pics saved.. Then later I started stealing her pics and used them an a yahoo or excite clubs thing and filtered traffic from that yahoo or excite club to my sites.

Damn.. That was soooo long ago.. And i remeber you had these really cool wallpaper pics as well..

PK Perfect pose of the Week..

Damn... I was a regualr to her site..

I should swing by again and jerk one off just for old times sakes... To honor all she has accomplished.

Minte 05-21-2005 12:25 PM

What a great interview..really fun to take a trip down memory lane!

Like most of the oldtimers here,PK was one of my first bookmarks and still is today.
Great job you've done over all these years PersianKitty.

boneprone 05-21-2005 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte
What a great interview..really fun to take a trip down memory lane!

Like most of the oldtimers here,PK was one of my first bookmarks and still is today.
Great job you've done over all these years PersianKitty.

Ahh yes... Minte's Bikini was another site I remember from back in the day...

One of the first... Damn man. We go way way way back.

boneprone 05-21-2005 12:30 PM

Ahhh!! Just went to PK's site!!!

I love it!! The Purfect pose of the Week is still there!!!

And its still the High Quality model pic as I remembered it!!

Too bad im so de-sensitized to porn now days or Id try to relieve myself to old time's sake..

But damn, the site looks the same as I remember it it.. The site is just HUGE.....

CDSmith 05-21-2005 12:32 PM

Minte's and Slick's were two of the very first babe sites I ever found back in the day. It was a bit later that I found my way to PK's, after which I submitted a site to her and quadrupled my traffic instantly :D

Shap 05-21-2005 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty
7. Why did you create Persian kitty? When? talk about the early days.

I bought a PC for my home in early 94. It had Compuserve software loaded on it. I logged on one day to check it out and stumbled onto their real-time chat. There I was sitting at this login prompt asking for a nick name. Never thinking about the fact I could change it anytime I wanted to, I stewed over this for some time and finally typed in ?PersianKitty" because my Persian cat, Smokey, was staring at the monitor also. The nick name stuck and luckily I didn't choose something like Hellacious Hanna or I might not be here today. Over the next few months I developed some really kewl friendships with people on Compuserve chat. I spent a heck of alot of time and money I didn't have at the time there. No $20 dial up accounts for Compuserve at that time. In early 95, Compuserve added Internet access to their services and I started cruising the net. I had a long-distance boyfriend who had peaked my interest in softcore porn, so we'd surf together sometimes just for something to do. At this time I was totally burned out at my job. In 4 years as Accounting Manager, I'd gone through two complete systems changes and it looked like the company was getting ready to downsize. I needed a break. I decided to take a few months off and play stay at home mom with my two boys. Something I had never done.

In August of 95, Compuserve raised their rates. Myself along with what would end up being over 100 people from the chat channel I frequented found ISPs for dial up and moved to the Undernet of IRC for chatting where I have a channel (I rarely go there anymore). $20/mo was a lot better then $400+/mo. About a month later I put up a little personal webpage. Nothing fancy. I didn't know html except from viewing source code on things I liked from sites I ran into. Whenever I saw a piece of a website where I liked how they'd done one thing or another I'd save a snippet of code in a file to review later and figure out how they did it.

With my little personal page I was fascinated with that fact that people from all over the world at all times of the day and night could be visiting something I actually put on the net. I decided I wanted to put something up that would draw some traffic just to see how many people I could get to my corner of the web. At that time the major 3rd party counter was Digits.com. The highest ranked sites on their list were Adult Link sites (NaughtyLinx and For Your Eyes Only). I decided since that seemed to be the way to get fast traffic I'd try an adult link site.

The first page went up on my personal ISP on October 1, 1995. It had 3 sections about less then 80 links. It only made sense to call it Persian Kitty?s Adult Links since that's what I was known by to my cyberfriends. I would hunt for links myself by visiting other link sites everytime they updated and looking through their listings for sites I liked and (cringe to think of trying to do it now) by reading Usenet postings about adult websites. Whenever I added a link I'd email the webmaster and let them know about it and tell them about my site. I didn't require a reciprocal link until March, 1998, but lots of people linked me back. I believed in running the site like I'd want to see a site I visited regularly run. That meant daily, sometimes several times a day, updates.

In late October, my site got added to Yahoo and traffic went quickly to about 20K uniques a day. My personal provider said "Pay or take it down". I wasn't doing the site for money, had never dreamed that someone would actually pay to advertise on it, so I replaced the page with the details of why I was taking it down. I emailed everyone on the listings also. Within 24 hours I had 3 offers for sponsorship (one was from the man who is now my server guru, another was from the people with Spice Entertainment). Each would allow me to run my site for free in exchange for an exclusive "sponsored by" ad at the top of the page (I only had one page at that time). Being stubborn I was searching for ways to do it myself. I found a host in Texas, Hypercon, who agreed to host me for a basic rate. I'd told them exactly how much traffic I was doing. After moving my pages to them (still not on a domain.. I had no clue what Internic was) and spending 3 days chasing down sites with my link on them to ask them to change the URL, Hypercon removed my site. Even though I'd been upfront with them and they hosted a few other adult sites, they tried telling me that their "board of directors" had decided they wouldn't host adult sites. Yet the other sites never got removed.

I immediately contacted one of the three sites that had offered sponsorship. The man who was to become my server guru extraordanaire was running a site called Secrets of Speed Seduction. He set me up with an account, registered persiankitty.com (under his name at the time.. boy to think if I'd fallen in with the wrong person). I again contacted all those people who had links to me and asked them to change the URL. PersianKitty went back online with a text ad for Secrets of Speed Seduction. I'd had a total of 4 days downtime between all of it. Well there was a weekend in there ;)

I continued to hunt for sites to list and started having people email me to be linked. Back then there weren't all the tricks around so finding sites to list wasn't too hard. I added a weekly pose picture so that I draw in some traffic that way. By February of 1996, the site was seeing over 80K uniques a day. I was being contacted alot by people wanting to advertise on the site. Because I wasn't paying for hosting, etc. I turned them all down, telling them that it wouldn't be fair to the person paying for my hosting. A couple got very persistent. I told Lewis, my server guy, about them. He asked what they wanted to pay. I hadn't even bother to ask and I had no clue what to charge. Well the most persistent of all was Webpower (Amateur Hardcore at that time), I asked the owner what he would be willing to pay and the number he came back with was more than twice in a week then I'd been making a month at my old job. I was floored. He wanted to do a week trial, paid in advance. Lewis and I decided that we'd change our arrangement. He continue doing the server upkeep, etc (PK was on part of one machine, a P85, on a shared T-1 at that time) for a percentage of the ad revenue. The trial week went great and Webpower has had the top position on my site since late February 1996. Within a month Intertain Online followed as a second full time banner. They paid 3 months in advance to start with. The owner of Intertain Online later partnered with Dean (The General) on Unfaithful and other sites. Danni started bugging me for an ad placement in the summer of 96. She was very persistent. I didn't want to ad more bandwidth by loading a second banner on the pages (webpower?s ad at the time was text only and Intertain's was a banner). She agreed to host the banners on her side at that point. In August of 1996, I added Danni's banner underneath Webpower?s. All three of these advertisers are still with me today. IEG hooked me for a 12 month contract for my second page banner spot. An experience that was less then pleasant but I got through it. I can't believe I was ever that naive.

By this time also, PK was running on two separately located machines through parts of two separately located T-1s. Eventually this number when to 4 machines on 4 separate T-1s. I added the double stacked rotating banners in September 1996 mainly because I had so many people asking to advertise and the 4 sponsors I had weren't going anywhere. Also most people at that time couldn't afford a full time slot so it made since to break it up in smaller more affordable pieces.

Persiankitty.com today runs on two beefy servers with more connectivity the most ISPs have. I've been very very lucky to have aligned myself with a server guy who cares about what he does.


GREAT ANSWER :thumbsup :thumbsup I think it's tough for anyone who wasn't around back then to appreciate how amazing that was.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 01:47 PM

9. How many cities have you lived in? Why did you move around so much?

I?ve lived over many different places in my life. As an Army brat, growing up I lived in Birmingham, Alabama; San Antonio, Texas (twice); Fort Rucker, Alabama; Fort Lewis, Washington; Jasper, Alabama; Fort Benning, Georgia; and Tacoma, Washington. I went to college in Pullman, Washington at Washington State University. After college I moved back to Tacoma. I moved northward a bit to a suburb of Seattle in 1997 when I bought my house.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 01:48 PM

Gotta go take my son's sick fiance some chicken noodle soup and orange juice to work.. her throat is so swollen up she can hardly talk.

Sparks 05-21-2005 02:58 PM

Man, I remember wayyyy back in the day, had to be 96' or 97' when we first got the net and my buddy showed me Persian Kitty. Had to be one of the first sites I saw. Great interview :)

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 03:14 PM

10. What does the back of Bill Gates head look like? Have you ever spat on him?


Kind of balding a bit. Why the heck would I want to spit on Bill Gates?

tranza 05-21-2005 03:22 PM

So far so good...

maja 05-21-2005 03:37 PM

this is such an excellent interview from a kick ass icon. I remember when my friend showed me PK waaaaaay back (like in '96 or something) on his bookmarks. I had no idea about online porn, etc. anyways, thanks for listing my galls & hope your 2005 is the best ever!!!

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy
pk, what was the first big ticket item you bought when you started to make some money?


My home in 1997 was the first really big thing (if big ticket can be described as something over $5K or so).

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 04:19 PM

11. What kind of man do you find attractive? Have you ever been turned on by any of your 20 year old sons friends?


A lot of different things can be attractive. I find confidence and security to be extremely attractive. He?s got to have a sense of humor and be fairly easy going. A quick temper or too much swearing will turn me off in a heartbeat.
There is nothing in the world that I find interesting about a 20 year old boy.

CDSmith 05-21-2005 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty
There is nothing in the world that I find interesting about a 20 year old boy.

"I am NOT a cougar!"

:thumbsup :D

MicroChick 05-21-2005 04:56 PM

Come on, guys!!!! You talk about '95 as though it were in the stone age. Ten years ago is not a long time. But it was a time when many in porn made a great deal of money.

It was a time when spam, popups, bumfight videos, affiliates, and hackers didn't rule. There was a certain purity back then compared to now. What sets Persian Kitty apart from most is that she has standards, and she tries to stick to those standards no matter how many tempt her. :thumbsup

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 06:47 PM

12. Why did you dump your first husband?

He found God?.or rather? he found a cultish church and encompassed all his time and filled some sort of need in his life at the time. He called me on the phone 2 days before Christmas of 1989 and gave me an ultimatum after he?d heard a fire and brimstone sermon on a Wednesday night at church. He told me that he wouldn?t come home until I agreed to get rid of the tv, stereo, vcr (put no even thing before thine eyes), never cut my hair again, never wear pants, shorts, or jeans again (only dresses), never wear makeup or any jewelry other than a wedding band, get rid of my two cats (yeah at one time I had only two), dress the boys (ages 18 months and 4.5 years at the time) in only long sleeved shirts and long pants (no shorts or tank tops), never see my parents again, and give my paychecks directly to him (he couldn?t manage money or pay bills and in fact at one point was giving over half our meager income to his church).

I told him ?Don?t come home.? Change the locks the next morning, took the boys to a different daycare, and had him served with a restraining order the next day because I was afraid he'd take the boys and hide them away with people from his church. Divorce was friendly...no problems. Told him he regretted everything later. I didn't.

Had very little contact with him over the years. In 2000 we sent a letter to him through the State Child Support office that the boys would like to hear from him. The response was a summons a few months later to go to court to have his child support reduce. This from a man who's barely paid any support at all of what was originally court ordered (when it would have made a difference). From what I've gathered, he's spent time homeless...worked from oddjob to oddjob and not done a heck of alot with his life. Tried to track him down for my oldest son through a private detective. No luck with trying to follow him from previous addresses.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 07:36 PM

13. Why would Jerry Springer want to discuss your second marriage?

Well in the summer of 1999, the Springer story would have been?
?My husband is having an affair with my son?s girlfriend?s mother who is a bipolar hypochondriac on disability who is no more disabled than you or I?. The settlement wasn?t fun. Divorce settlement involved me paying him several hundred thousand (could have been a lot worse) which he managed to squander away and kept piling on loans and credit cards in the process. Had his vehicles repossessed and a house foreclosed on. He filed bankruptcy within nine months of my last payment to him.

azguy 05-21-2005 07:42 PM

This is the most interesting ambush interview so far :)

Rebecca Love 05-21-2005 07:49 PM

wow i am late, i have a lot of catching up to do........... :helpme

Doctor Dre 05-21-2005 10:06 PM

:P I got the fealing we will see this thread on the main page for the next week

Trixxxia 05-21-2005 10:22 PM

Congrats on your son's engagement!

P.S. Definitely one of the most interesting interviews.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 10:40 PM

14. What happened to the PK boat? Pics

The ex got the boat, a 36 foot Carver Mariner, in the settlement and I got the boat payment which was ridiculous because I was the one who helmed the dang thing. He couldn't manuever it at slow speeds. He decided to sell it in 2002. Between the price he got, the loan payoff, and the settlement of it all with me (cash in advance instead of me paying it off over the life of the loan), he saw about half of what is was worth.

http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/cybercat5.jpg

http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/cybercat2.jpg

woj 05-21-2005 10:40 PM

150 questions...

CDSmith 05-21-2005 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty
14. What happened to the PK boat? Pics

The ex got the boat, a 36 foot Carver Mariner, in the settlement and I got the boat payment which was ridiculous because I was the one who helmed the dang thing. He couldn't manuever it at slow speeds. He decided to sell it in 2002. Between the price he got, the loan payoff, and the settlement of it all with me (cash in advance instead of me paying it off over the life of the loan), he saw about half of what is was worth.

http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/cybercat5.jpg

http://207.114.239.80/pktemp/cybercat2.jpg

Between this and your other post about your ex #2.... and all the other times we've talked about him, I have to say again that it is hard to fathom just how much of a loser he was/is.

All you can do I suppose is just hope the present owner of such a great boat is getting some good use out of it and treating it well.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 11:04 PM

15. Talk about the early days at Ynot with Rick, lars, bangwang and the gang.

Oh my gosh. I feel very old now. Ynot was such a blur way back when?September of 1996 to be exact. Rick, Lars, bangwang, Mark, Danni, Janey..hmm.. I?m forgetting tons. It got way too political for me. The Hangout board was the first webmaster board I ever posted on. I?m sure there?s others here that can refresh my memory.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 11:05 PM

16. What adult company has PK made the most money from over the years?

Webpower is #1 without a doubt. Of the oldies, Danni?s Hard Drive and Maxiumcash follow behind. The mix is completely different these days.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 11:06 PM

17. Did you ever think you'd work in Adult and make the money you do?

Not in my wildest dreams. I assumed I?d live my life doing accounting for the private sector, find a nice modest house to settle down in, and put away bits of money for my old age. Spent many years with days of hot dogs and mac and cheese trying to get by until payday.

This life I stumbled into has allowed me to become a stronger, independent, secure woman.

PersianKitty 05-21-2005 11:29 PM

18. Talk about the quality of traffic and surfer experience VS quality of traffic on circle jerks and other TGPs.

The name of the game for me is keeping the surfer coming back. They?ll only come back if they find things they want and if those things change regularly to make them want to check back. Some have the philosophy of ?get them in and out and off my site and somewhere else to buy something?. Time and time again, I?ve had long-term bookmarkers buy a membership somewhere only to do it again, because they liked what they got.
My TGP page is secondary to the main page of free sites. From my experience, the TGP page doesn?t perform worth diddly compared to the front page. Several times I?ve thought that maybe it was a waste of time, but I?d hate to just drop it and loose even one potential sale or bookmarker.
As to quality of traffic on circle jerks and other TGPs (my site isn?t primarily a TGP), I have no knowledge. If it works for them?good for em.

Xenophage 05-21-2005 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty
13. Why would Jerry Springer want to discuss your second marriage?

Well in the summer of 1999, the Springer story would have been?
?My husband is having an affair with my son?s girlfriend?s mother who is a bipolar hypochondriac on disability who is no more disabled than you or I?. The settlement wasn?t fun. Divorce settlement involved me paying him several hundred thousand (could have been a lot worse) which he managed to squander away and kept piling on loans and credit cards in the process. Had his vehicles repossessed and a house foreclosed on. He filed bankruptcy within nine months of my last payment to him.


eeewww yuck.. divorice sucks.. sounds like he was a pile..

BV 05-21-2005 11:36 PM

OK, I'm curious as to why you didn't name the Carver "Persian Kitty" ?

Xenophage 05-21-2005 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianKitty
15. Talk about the early days at Ynot with Rick, lars, bangwang and the gang.

Oh my gosh. I feel very old now. Ynot was such a blur way back when?September of 1996 to be exact. Rick, Lars, bangwang, Mark, Danni, Janey..hmm.. I?m forgetting tons. It got way too political for me. The Hangout board was the first webmaster board I ever posted on. I?m sure there?s others here that can refresh my memory.



yup those were the days ! beating infoseek till all hours of the morning and the Cyberzine chat rooms.. PK was very nice and had a persian kitty co branded chat room on my site for a long time :) thanks PK.

And ya all thought I only did co brans on my live cam sites... Pk was my first ever attempt at a co brand..

Ice 05-21-2005 11:51 PM

This thread is gold............ I love the traffic I get from PK

careful what you say PK.... it takes years and years to know what you know....... don't give the farm away for nothing....

Us old school guys know where you have come from ..... neewbies today can't relate


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