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SmokeyTheBear 05-27-2005 11:31 PM

50 racist judges.

I'll tell you the #1 reason she cant be guilty.. It would make ZERO sense ( or profit ) to smuggle weed INTO indonesia..

bhutocracy 05-27-2005 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
I guess while there is obviously doubt about her motives - there have been no other suitable evidence as to how the drugs got there.

If it's not profitable for an individual to import drugs to bali, then it's not profitable for baggage handlers to do it either...

The baggage handlers were shifting the drugs INTERSTATE. ie, from some queensland grower to the sydney market. The domestic flights have little or no restrictions unlike flying out of the country.. if you've got someone on the inside you can move it around very easily.. if baggage handlers HAVE JUST BEEN CHARGED WITH RUNNING DRUGS IN THE LAST MONTH doesn't that say something? I've heard interviews with a baggage handler talking about people using it to ship it around.

The problem is that the baggage handler supposed to intercept it at Sydney fucked up and left it in the boogie board case where it went to Bali.

Moving pot interstate is a big thing.. Adelaide and Queensland > Sydney where people buy shit per GRAM. lol

bhutocracy 05-27-2005 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cjaccardi
oh well you do the crime you do the time


she smuggled it , no way was it some "australian bag handlers ring"

You don't know shit.

"A ROGUE baggage handler who intercepted drug mules' bags before Customs could inspect them enabled a Sydney cocaine syndicate to smuggle more than $10million worth of the drug, police claim.

Investigations are believed to centre on a group of six baggage handlers at Sydney airport.
News of the probe came after the arrest of 11 men on Monday when police wound up a multi-million-dollar cocaine-importing syndicate in Sydney after a five-month investigation. "

May 11

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15248266-2,00.html

BlueDesignStudios 05-28-2005 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhutocracy
The baggage handlers were shifting the drugs INTERSTATE. ie, from some queensland grower to the sydney market. The domestic flights have little or no restrictions unlike flying out of the country.. if you've got someone on the inside you can move it around very easily.. if baggage handlers HAVE JUST BEEN CHARGED WITH RUNNING DRUGS IN THE LAST MONTH doesn't that say something? I've heard interviews with a baggage handler talking about people using it to ship it around.

The problem is that the baggage handler supposed to intercept it at Sydney fucked up and left it in the boogie board case where it went to Bali.

Moving pot interstate is a big thing.. Adelaide and Queensland > Sydney where people buy shit per GRAM. lol

yeah no doubt baggage handlers do move some drugs around like that, though I reckon it's easier to truck it interstate, there's no risk

it only makes sense to import / export drugs via airports because you can get it through security

Joe Citizen 05-28-2005 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
50 racist judges.

I'll tell you the #1 reason she cant be guilty.. It would make ZERO sense ( or profit ) to smuggle weed INTO indonesia..

How the fuck would you know?

bhutocracy 05-28-2005 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen
My theory is this: She either knew a grower or someone close to her did (family?). She figured she could pay for her holiday and even come back with a fair bit of money in her pocket. The shit was vacuum sealed and fit perfectly into the boogie board bag. It's too neat..

She could do that in australia for a higher profit and a zillion times less risk

HollywoodChris 05-28-2005 12:29 AM

gees, I didnt know you already posted this. I just saw it on the news...


I have a girlfriend in Peru that has been there for 8 years for the same type of issue. Freaks me out knowing all the shit my friend has been through in the jails of Peru.


-Chris

Joe Citizen 05-28-2005 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy
She could do that in australia for a higher profit and a zillion times less risk

This is why I'm interested in the price and availability of high-grade hydro in Bali.

xclusive 05-28-2005 12:51 AM

Just bullshit once that tourism dies down because of this she will be let go

bhutocracy 05-28-2005 01:01 AM

boycottbali.com is taken lol
Creation Date: 21-apr-2005 just a week ago.

BlueDesignStudios 05-28-2005 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhutocracy
boycottbali.com is taken lol
Creation Date: 21-apr-2005 just a week ago.

I doubt all the boycott stuff will come to much - it's the cheapest & closest OS holiday for aussies so they'll go anyway :2 cents:

Odin88 05-28-2005 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
I doubt all the boycott stuff will come to much - it's the cheapest & closest OS holiday for aussies so they'll go anyway :2 cents:

Few people with officially 'boycott' them. But you can sure as hell bet that not many Australians (in comparison to beforehand) want to go there anymore. I know heaps of people who used to go there, none of them want to go back anymore.

samsam 05-28-2005 01:27 AM

Theres no fucking reason to take pot to indonesia..... you might take pot from indonesia to try and sell in the USA but the other way around is DUMB ASS.

Thats another reason you can safely say she is innocent.

baddog 05-28-2005 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Odin88
No drugs where found in her system.


okay, so she was bringing it to friends . . . no one is going to go thru the trouble of smuggling 9 lbs of weed for profit

baddog 05-28-2005 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhutocracy
You don't know shit.

"A ROGUE baggage handler who intercepted drug mules' bags before Customs could inspect them enabled a Sydney cocaine syndicate to smuggle more than $10million worth of the drug, police claim.

Investigations are believed to centre on a group of six baggage handlers at Sydney airport.
News of the probe came after the arrest of 11 men on Monday when police wound up a multi-million-dollar cocaine-importing syndicate in Sydney after a five-month investigation. "

May 11

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15248266-2,00.html


Big diff between coke and weed . . . too bulky, not enough profit margin. Not worth the trouble :2 cents:

bhutocracy 05-28-2005 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
I doubt all the boycott stuff will come to much - it's the cheapest & closest OS holiday for aussies so they'll go anyway :2 cents:

They reckon Fiji tourism has spiked in the past few months. I've been to Fiji and Vanuatu but never Bali. Not for any particular reason, just I don't think many people make a big distinction between the various tropical islands - I know I didn't. And since then we've had Indonesian's massacre of East Timorese, terrorist attacks and a very shoddy public trial whatever the real facts are.

I mean sure the majority of resistance will fade away, tourist operators will start selling Bali again... but there will still be an ongoing drop... plus a lot of people saying it aren't boycotting.. they're just scared of having the same thing happen.

AdultMovies.bz 05-28-2005 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
50 racist judges.

I'll tell you the #1 reason she cant be guilty.. It would make ZERO sense ( or profit ) to smuggle weed INTO indonesia..

Spoton!

Also, how the fuck does a person get a whole body board bag full of pot into an Australian international airport, past the customs and past the sniffer dogs and onto an international flight in the first place... I've been traveling in and out of Aus plenty of times and know for a fact that such a task would be impossible to do. :2 cents:

Matt_WildCash 05-28-2005 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
I doubt all the boycott stuff will come to much - it's the cheapest & closest OS holiday for aussies so they'll go anyway :2 cents:

There are A LOT of Australians who feel very disgusted by this innocent girl going to prison. People will remember for a couple of years at least and travel will drop for awhile. But people will forget and travel go back up. And of course large amount of people will not care and go anyways but I believe there will be a drop thats for sure.

You type in corby into google and they are buying PPC for boycotbali .com or something. (I like it they don't deserve our money).

Mr.Fiction 05-28-2005 01:51 AM

Is 20 years really that much more than you would get in the U.S. for having 9 pounds?

You can get life in the U.S. if you get busted three times.

How many of these anti-Indonesia people are outraged by the fucked up U.S. laws?

Many right wingers want life in jail for pot smokers in America - why are they complaining when it happens in other parts of the world?

JeanClaude VanDamme 05-28-2005 01:53 AM

20 years is a fair sentence in indonesia...

I remember a French guy called Michael Blanc, found guilty for the same drug problem, he was sentenced to life... Only for 4Kg of pot !!!

Fuck indonesia !

Odin88 05-28-2005 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
Is 20 years really that much more than you would get in the U.S. for having 9 pounds?

You can get life in the U.S. if you get busted three times.

How many of these anti-Indonesia people are outraged by the fucked up U.S. laws?

Many right wingers want life in jail for pot smokers in America - why are they complaining when it happens in other parts of the world?

The fact is the case has been very weak from day 1, and it has been very obvious (from the various interviews, etc) the Judge never really had any other verdict in his mind. If the case had been in Australia she would of almost certainly got off, and whilst people have to realise different nations have different laws, you can't blame people for not being happy when someone is convicted (by their standards) on a very weak case, and is given such a lengthy sentence.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 05-28-2005 02:02 AM

I know she is someones sister, dauhgter, freind, but at the end of the day, everyone should respect Indonesia's laws on drugs, i only wish we had the same laws here in Australia, She is guilty, everyone knows that pot in Bali is shit and Australia has better quality pot (I dont touch the stuff but it is a know fact) she would have been taking it over there for her sister and why was her brother not present during the trial the brother that was flying there with her, most likley the pot was his and her other Brother is in Jail over here in Australia.

Do the Crime do the Time.........

Batts

Matt_WildCash 05-28-2005 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction
Is 20 years really that much more than you would get in the U.S. for having 9 pounds?

You can get life in the U.S. if you get busted three times.

How many of these anti-Indonesia people are outraged by the fucked up U.S. laws?

Many right wingers want life in jail for pot smokers in America - why are they complaining when it happens in other parts of the world?

Yes US laws are just as fucked up, US gives out 10-20+ year anal raping sentences like candy. US jails are so inhuman they should all be sued and cleaned up IMO.

You get put in jail in US for 1-5 years, anal raped white boy and traded around by your black pimp daddy for packs of cigerettes. You get aids and you have no protection in jail. You get out you've got a death sentence with aids and you can't sue the jail cause "as a prisoner you have NO RIGHTS"

That is disgusting as well. US isn't that much better than Indonesia in many ways re: anal rape no protection for prisoners. Countries without such bad drug problems give our (fair) sentences, you get caught with 9 pounds of marajuana and you get 5 years in jail, get caught with 1 pound get 1 year and probation. Thats how it should be but US and these other countries have so much drug problems they have to just put these people away for large sentences to get them off the street cause there is so many of them. Which I can understand to some degree but I do feel strongly that if your forced to be put in jail and have someone take control of your saftely that those people should be responsible for providing protection for you or face big penalties.

$5 submissions 05-28-2005 02:13 AM

Another case of 3rd World selectively enforced laws. They blast the mules and runners but leave the Kingpins alone. Fucked up.

bhutocracy 05-28-2005 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batts
I only wish we had the same laws here in Australia
Batts

Fuck off to Indonesia then.
Death penalty for pot? Jesus. Get your head out of your ass.

*shakes head*

BlueDesignStudios 05-28-2005 02:49 AM

Seems to be two issues going on here..

1) Is she guilty or not
2) Is 20 years fair / reasonable / appropriate

everyone can have a guess at 1), but for 2), it's a matter for each country to decide themselves....other countries can't export their values or beliefs.. there are lots of countries with 'unreasonable' policies and laws, but what gives one the right to judge another?

bigdog 05-28-2005 05:37 AM

she is lucky she only got 20 years, they give people the death penalty for drugs in Bali

directfiesta 05-28-2005 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by geeksta
Isn't there an US porn filmmaker being held in a Panamanian jail right now for nothing? I thought I read about that somewhere.

Guy shooting for Devil's films ... some of his crew also jailed. :warning

Fletch XXX 05-28-2005 08:30 AM

i think if she was black and ugly most of you wouldnt give a shit thats what i think

EddiePulp 05-28-2005 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
I doubt all the boycott stuff will come to much - it's the cheapest & closest OS holiday for aussies so they'll go anyway :2 cents:

Thailand or Vietnam is a close alternative.

slackologist 05-28-2005 08:54 AM

i'd like to know how a bag full of dope can make it onto an international flight in the first place if baggage handlers are not the ones organising it.

slackologist 05-28-2005 08:55 AM

says something about security, could have been a bomb.

Phoenix 05-28-2005 09:01 AM

screwed up...a large political message frm australia..like recalling your ambassador and shitting down relief funds is the only recourse.

Who the hell do these people think they are? We are going to hold a hot aussie girl in jail and not let any witnesses come forth to speak for her...yeah right...that judge needs to be be dropped off about 200 kilometers out to sea....give him some alone time to think and a chance to swim back to shore

sperbonzo 05-28-2005 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
i think if she was black and ugly most of you wouldnt give a shit thats what i think


I agree.... I know that I don't give a shit.

Quote:

Who do they think they are.... a hot aussie girl...
Like that has ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT

Anyone that is stupid enough to try to smuggle 9 pounds of pot anywhere around that region in the world needs to be removed from the gene pool. I just hope that she is too old to breed when she gets out of prison... What an idiot! :1orglaugh

slackologist 05-28-2005 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
I agree.... I know that I don't give a shit. Anyone that is stupid enough to try to smuggle 9 pounds of pot anywhere around that region in the world needs to be removed from the gene pool. I just hope that she is too old to breed when she gets out of prison... What an idiot! :1orglaugh

and lets not forget that indonesia's justice system is perfect and it makes sense to smuggle pot from australia to bali.

sperbonzo 05-28-2005 09:18 AM

IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sperbonzo 05-28-2005 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by slackologist
and lets not forget that indonesia's justice system is perfect and it makes sense to smuggle pot from australia to bali.

apparently John Howard doesn't agree...

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'I think the entire nation feels for this girl,' John Howard, the Prime Minister, said. 'But we have to accept the justice system of other countries. I ask that we all pause and understand the situation and recognise and respect that when we visit other countries we are subject to the laws and rules of those countries.'

sperbonzo 05-28-2005 09:43 AM

I'll bet you any money that if she was a dumpy, ugly aboriginal girl with a moustach.... the only reaction from Aussies would have been...

"Stupid Abo!"

...and that would have been it. :2 cents:

Pimp Master Hans 06-04-2005 08:34 PM

I am an Indonesian, and I live in Bali. I smoke pot in every single day that I got from you white aussie bastards. For the stupid hahahaha Corby, she's hot. Maybe someday I have chance to visit her in Kerobokan Jail.

$5 submissions 06-04-2005 08:58 PM

The Indonesian government is FULL OF SHIT. Typical Third World hypocrisy. They SELECTIVELY punish small time smugglers but 'connected' big time smugglers are given a free pass. Need proof? Just check out the number of heroin addicts in Indonesia... it keeps growing and the price of smack keeps dropping.

Typical bullshit. It isn't much better here in the Philippines. If you're a foreigner or you are 'unconnected' you are seen as a cash cow and are supposed to know ALL the laws and regulations on the books. Or else, you either pay up or off to tuberculosis/skin boils-infested prison you go. Even if you pay up, you have to KEEP ON paying cuz everyone up and down the line will hit you up cuz you're running an illegal business. This is common knowledge given the recent JUETENG (illegal gambling) scandal.

I see more of that same bullshit happening here once the Revilla "anti porn" legislation passes and public hysteria builds to a boiling point.


3rd World "Justice" sucks ass--there is no such thing as "equality before the law".

prime 06-04-2005 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
she is lucky she only got 20 years, they give people the death penalty for drugs in Bali

she is lucky indeed.
I'll bet diplomacy will work later on and she will go back home :upsidedow

stev0 06-04-2005 11:00 PM

drug laws are rediculous...

Joe Citizen 06-05-2005 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimp Master Hans
I am an Indonesian, and I live in Bali. I smoke pot in every single day that I got from you white aussie bastards. For the stupid hahahaha Corby, she's hot. Maybe someday I have chance to visit her in Kerobokan Jail.

Whether she's guily or not who knows... but you sure as hell live in one corrupt, primitive fucking country.

MBS Auto 06-05-2005 01:06 AM

Teach them all a lesson

DWB 06-05-2005 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by analgalleries
Hopefully another Tsunami will whip out that shit hole country and singapore too all these third world countries should fucking DIE.

They are Sick pieces of Shit over there.

Riggght... and Americans are not? :1orglaugh

NEWS FLASH: People are shit all over the world. You don't have to look far to find them.

BRISK 06-05-2005 02:35 AM

20 years for pot smuggling is ridiculous

tradermcduck 06-05-2005 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK
20 years for pot smuggling is ridiculous

I agreee on that :1orglaugh

taibo 06-05-2005 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
if you find my bag of weed, please let me know...


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=473238



hahhahaha

s9ann0 06-05-2005 05:33 AM

way ott sentence for weed they must be trying to prove something

marketsmart 06-05-2005 07:10 AM

Of course the truth is only known by the person or persons involved, but find it reaally hard to believe that someone would be dumb enough to smuggle 9 pounds and I think most people have enough commen sense to know how tough penalties are in smaller countries. If it was a pound or two I would give it 50/50. But again, people do dumb shit.

It really pisses me off that in the US we can basically tell the UN that we are going to wage war on a country whether they like it or not and on top of that shift the reasons from WOMD to liberating an oppressed nation cause we cant find any WOMD, but we always play the "we have to be diplomatic card" when dealing with these type of issues. Go look at a map. We had to wipe out Iraq so we can go crush the 2nd of the 3 axis of evil Iran. There's already an increase of news lately about how Iran supports terrorism. My point is, that if there is a substantial reasonable doubt about whether this person is guilty or even if this person did not receive a chance to prove their innocence (and I dont care what another countries policy is) the country of origin should do something about it. As a US citizen I am required to adhere to US law even when out of country, so I should be afforded the same liberties as penalties. I would never wish any harm to anyone living abroad, but what would Indonesia do if we threatened military action. NOTHING! The rest of the world is already pissed off at us, so I say if you can push one 3rd world country around, why not another. Australia supported us in Iraq, so lets repay the favor.
Would someone please call the White House and tell them to add Indonesia to to list. Now that Iraq is gone, we have room. Just tell them you have good inteligence that they are making nukes. Ah, on second thought tell em you have bad intelligence, it's been working so far..


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