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Greg MissionD 06-01-2005 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee
Hahahahaha.

If anyone is considering paying that much plus the monthly fee to utilize their service please contact me directly and ill have a custom solution programmed for you at half the price without any mothly 'maintenance' fees :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

:thumbsup

latinasojourn 06-01-2005 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn
look, i'll just put this in plain language so someone will understand.

a code writer needs to put together a nifty utility that will assembles a guys documents so he can comply with 2257 at inspection time.

this utility needs to be able to run on the webmaster's own hardware.

and it should be a one-time purchase of less than 300 usd.

and that code writer will sell about 7-10,000 units.

don't forget EVERY USA adult webmaster has to comply. don't forget who the client base is.

:2 cents:


and, i might add---the PERFECT utility would have the DOJ seal of approval.

my2257 06-01-2005 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC
By the way my2257 serious question, Does the prices of these PC's include the price of the license for Windows 2003 and SQL Server? Also what langauge is my2257 wrote in?

Yes - this includes a LICENSED install of Microsoft Windows 2003 Server and SQL Server.

We will not release our software to end users in a self install version due to concerns about implementation of this product on non-licensed operating system. We do not want to potentially incure liability due to use of such unlicensed systems.

dready 06-01-2005 06:38 PM

Seems way excessive for a little database app.

riddler 06-01-2005 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
Yes - this includes a LICENSED install of Microsoft Windows 2003 Server and SQL Server.

We will not release our software to end users in a self install version due to concerns about implementation of this product on non-licensed operating system. We do not want to potentially incure liability due to use of such unlicensed systems.

Great you answered about the microsoft software question but did not answer what code its wrote in, And what the fuck does something using your software on a unlicensed system have to do with you? It has nothing to do with your company you cant be at fault for them using your software on a warezed copy of 2003..

European Lee 06-01-2005 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Gaskell
:thumbsup

That reminds me i need to shoot you an email Greg :)

You should have that later this evening EST :)

Regards,

Lee

latinasojourn 06-01-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn
and, i might add---the PERFECT utility would have the DOJ seal of approval.


and, i might also add:

IF we can take the stated aims of the revised 2257 on face value the MOST REASONABLE scenario would be a compliance script which could be downloaded from a govt website with instructions for use.

riddler 06-01-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn
and, i might also add:

IF we can take the stated aims of the revised 2257 on face value the MOST REASONABLE scenario would be a compliance script which could be downloaded from a govt website with instructions for use.

umm yeah, thats realistic the government making us book keeping software, my fucking god man wtf you expect them to do hold our hands while we shoot the content too?

guschi2k 06-01-2005 06:45 PM

http://www.ncsu.edu/itd/hpc/Images/p690_2_200.jpg maybe this setup is more suitable :thumbsup

woj 06-01-2005 06:45 PM

50.........

guschi2k 06-01-2005 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by woj
50.........

yo da man :thumbsup

my2257 06-01-2005 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC
Great you answered about the microsoft software question but did not answer what code its wrote in, And what the fuck does something using your software on a unlicensed system have to do with you? It has nothing to do with your company you cant be at fault for them using your software on a warezed copy of 2003..

The system is written in Microsoft.NET

my2257 06-01-2005 06:54 PM

Interesting
So far 27 people have filed out the request more data form and 4 have called since 5:31PM PST.

Faxing three quotes to companies right now.
Guess there really is NO interest in our product

my2257 06-01-2005 06:55 PM

Getting comments like this:

Producer Ad - Web Please send us whatever pertinent information you might have regarding the 2257 changes, thanking you in advance. 6/1/2005 6:45:19 PM

latinasojourn 06-01-2005 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC
umm yeah, thats realistic the government making us book keeping software, my fucking god man wtf you expect them to do hold our hands while we shoot the content too?


it is realistic. the US govt provides software on many compliance issues right now.

do a search on google:

"federal government compliance software"

my2257 06-01-2005 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn
it is realistic. the US govt provides software on many compliance issues right now.

do a search on google:

"federal government compliance software"

I'll wait for that to be released by June 23, 2005
LOL

BoyAlley 06-01-2005 06:58 PM

Greetings:

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Originally Posted by my2257
We will not release our software to end users in a self install version due to concerns about implementation of this product on non-licensed operating system. We do not want to potentially incure liability due to use of such unlicensed systems.

That has to be about the god damn dumbest thing I've ever read on here. And I think that's saying a lot!

Do you actually expect people to believe this? Why not just admit the truth, you're selling it with hardware so you can pad your margins even more? I know I would have respected you more if you just came out and said it, instead of trying to feed us this load of crap.

Imagine what would happen if every software vendor decided there was liability if their product was installed on a warez copy of windows. I'd have about 65 computers sitting here right now, each with 1 application sitting on it.

Stupid, stupid STUPID!

latinasojourn 06-01-2005 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
Interesting
So far 27 people have filed out the request more data form and 4 have called since 5:31PM PST.

Faxing three quotes to companies right now.
Guess there really is NO interest in our product


yes, you might get a few sales, and no one faults a businessman for making a buck.

but remember who the client base is, and where the big numbers are.

do you want 5 sales, or 5000?

my2257 06-01-2005 07:00 PM

Oh wait up to 31 request for documentation on the product.
Oh look 4 Affiliate progarms so far

Guess their not waiting for their Goverment hand out

European Lee 06-01-2005 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn
yes, you might get a few sales, and no one faults a businessman for making a buck.

but remember who the client base is, and where the big numbers are.

do you want 5 sales, or 5000?

Id rather have 5 sales @ $10k than 5000 @ $300.

Just me but letting any hobbyist webmasters get their hands on this would be a logistical nightmare for their support team (if they have one).

Regards,

Lee

dready 06-01-2005 07:01 PM

I guess they decided to sell it to 5 people for a few thousand instead of thousands for a few hundred dollars. WTF?!?

riddler 06-01-2005 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
The system is written in Microsoft.NET

umm what code is Microsoft.NET? there is no "Microsoft.NET" its VB isnt it?

my2257 06-01-2005 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee
Id rather have 5 sales @ $10k than 5000 @ $300.

Just me but letting any hobbyist webmasters get their hands on this would be a logistical nightmare for their support team (if they have one).

Regards,

Lee

Thank you.

That is our feeling as well.
1) It takes us about 4 hours to install the operating system and SQL on each box.
2) Then hours to run all the updates and service patches.
3) Once this is done we must install our software and set the license key for the server.
4) Now we have to configure the system to a producers needs or a webmasters needs.
5) We need to test the server and software before shipping
6) We have to walk the client through the use of the server

There is A LOT involved in this system. Over 2 years of development, Attorney fees, payroll to developers, testing, reading regulations, modifying database to meet regulations, ect.

Not a simple task. Our first two clients BOTH spent 4 - 5 months trying to do it in house before going with our solution.

We understand this is not for everyone. Never claimed it would be. We are interested in those clients looking for a proven technology with a company that has been in the adult internet industry for nearly 10 years.

We hope a more affordable solution is released, but till then who has a tested product?

my2257 06-01-2005 07:12 PM

Up to 37 request for info

Last I looked 37 was more than 5

riddler 06-01-2005 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
Thank you.

That is our feeling as well.
1) It takes us about 4 hours to install the operating system and SQL on each box.
2) Then hours to run all the updates and service patches.
3) Once this is done we must install our software and set the license key for the server.
4) Now we have to configure the system to a producers needs or a webmasters needs.
5) We need to test the server and software before shipping
6) We have to walk the client through the use of the server

There is A LOT involved in this system. Over 2 years of development, Attorney fees, payroll to developers, testing, reading regulations, modifying database to meet regulations, ect.

Not a simple task. Our first two clients BOTH spent 4 - 5 months trying to do it in house before going with our solution.

We understand this is not for everyone. Never claimed it would be. We are interested in those clients looking for a proven technology with a company that has been in the adult internet industry for nearly 10 years.

We hope a more affordable solution is released, but till then who has a tested product?

Seriously if you spent 2 years developing this shit then it should have a easy to install user face, Stop with the non sense bullshit of saying you need to have to sell it with the PC, all your doing is making more money by saying it takes a fucking geek to install..

riddler 06-01-2005 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
Up to 37 request for info

Last I looked 37 was more than 5

Requests for info? Wtf does that really mean, It means trolls on gfy are probably wanting info on wtf it is since you offer no screenshots or little info about what exactly the program is complexed of

JMM 06-01-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee
Id rather have 5 sales @ $10k than 5000 @ $300.

Just me but letting any hobbyist webmasters get their hands on this would be a logistical nightmare for their support team (if they have one).

Regards,

Lee

Hmm... 5 sales @ $10k = $50,000. 5000 sales @ $300= $1.5 million

I think I will take the 5000 sales @ $300, but that is just me.

my2257 06-01-2005 07:16 PM

its been written in both VB and C# -

On the advice of Legal Council we went with a turn key solution

tony286 06-01-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC
Seriously if you spent 2 years developing this shit then it should have a easy to install user face, Stop with the non sense bullshit of saying you need to have to sell it with the PC, all your doing is making more money by saying it takes a fucking geek to install..

2 years the proposal for the new regs hasnt been out for two years

riddler 06-01-2005 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404
2 years the proposal for the new regs hasnt been out for two years

Yeah, I dont like slimey business tactics, If i wasnt so lazy id whip up this program in VB in a few hours and give it to all of GFY but im fucking lazy..

newbreed 06-01-2005 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC
Seriously if you spent 2 years developing this shit then it should have a easy to install user face, Stop with the non sense bullshit of saying you need to have to sell it with the PC, all your doing is making more money by saying it takes a fucking geek to install..

No doubt. Any 4GL or similar RAD program could have done it in 3-4 days within knowing the posted regs.

crockett 06-01-2005 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
Thank you.

That is our feeling as well.
1) It takes us about 4 hours to install the operating system and SQL on each box.
2) Then hours to run all the updates and service patches.
3) Once this is done we must install our software and set the license key for the server.
4) Now we have to configure the system to a producers needs or a webmasters needs.
5) We need to test the server and software before shipping
6) We have to walk the client through the use of the server

There is A LOT involved in this system. Over 2 years of development, Attorney fees, payroll to developers, testing, reading regulations, modifying database to meet regulations, ect.

Not a simple task. Our first two clients BOTH spent 4 - 5 months trying to do it in house before going with our solution.

We understand this is not for everyone. Never claimed it would be. We are interested in those clients looking for a proven technology with a company that has been in the adult internet industry for nearly 10 years.

We hope a more affordable solution is released, but till then who has a tested product?

lol 2 years developing this... shit the new regs weren't even proposed then... I guess you must of seen the future.. :1orglaugh

riddler 06-01-2005 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
its been written in both VB and C# -

On the advice of Legal Council we went with a turn key solution

hmm, I wouldnt trust my records with a VB app running full time, Now i see why it takes a full computer with no other stuff being used on it to run this software *cough*

my2257 06-01-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM
Hmm... 5 sales @ $10k = $50,000. 5000 sales @ $300= $1.5 million

I think I will take the 5000 sales @ $300, but that is just me.

Then write a $300 compliant program and sell it
Don't patent it, don't spend the money on legal counsel and take your chances.
We have no intention of denying anyone to write a completive product.

riddler 06-01-2005 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
No doubt. Any 4GL or similar RAD program could have done it in 3-4 days within knowing the posted regs.

Yeah i aint the best at Excel but i know its not that hard to make it up to sort and go to folders in it, Macro Scripting works wonders, I made a excel sheet with all my passwords for programs, tgps, my earnings all broke down in month and yearly and a statistic of how much its up or down.

Now if that was easy to make im damn sure making a simple 2257 database wouldnt be to hard in excel with a hint of access and macro scripting.

European Lee 06-01-2005 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM
Hmm... 5 sales @ $10k = $50,000. 5000 sales @ $300= $1.5 million

I think I will take the 5000 sales @ $300, but that is just me.

Thats fine, you get to deal with all the 'support' shit each day from 5000+ people too LOL

Trust me, a higher price with a lower sales volume works, its worked for us as a company for the last 8 years :winkwink:

2257 stuff ISNT a long-term business, think about it, if the FSC get their injunction, nobody will be buying these solutions, the ideal time to get clients for this type of thing from a marketing viewpoint is NOW whilst webmasters are running around like beheaded chickens not knowing what they are going to do.

Chicken Little: The sky is falling
Store Owner: Buy this umbrella then
Chicken Little: Wow what a life saver

:winkwink: :winkwink: :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

my2257 06-01-2005 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett
lol 2 years developing this... shit the new regs weren't even proposed then... I guess you must of seen the future.. :1orglaugh

YES - saw the writting on the wall with the 2000 elections

JMM 06-01-2005 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
Then write a $300 compliant program and sell it
Don't patent it, don't spend the money on legal counsel and take your chances.
We have no intention of denying anyone to write a completive product.


Dude... chill out. My post was not a comment on the validity or value of your product. It was more a comment on general business economics.

riddler 06-01-2005 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257
YES - saw the writting on the wall with the 2000 elections

Umm sure you did :Oh crap

my2257 06-01-2005 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC
Yeah i aint the best at Excel but i know its not that hard to make it up to sort and go to folders in it, Macro Scripting works wonders, I made a excel sheet with all my passwords for programs, tgps, my earnings all broke down in month and yearly and a statistic of how much its up or down.

Now if that was easy to make im damn sure making a simple 2257 database wouldnt be to hard in excel with a hint of access and macro scripting.

So your going to scan the IDs into excel?


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