It wouldnt hinder anything. Its a turnkey solution and I'm sure it has some features that are great. To comply with the law you dont need the features, but they make it easier.

Jeff - Having fun with you.
You know I have nothing but respect for your input!

That is even more of a reason for the 5000 @ $300 model. Get the money and run, and a lot more money at that. If this is not a long term issue, then my $1.5 million will go a lot farther than your $50,000.

Ok look, Most affiliate programs or content suppliers are going to send digital format since they arent opt to send actual paper, So what do you in all honesty think is going to be alot easier for a affiliate program send digital format or take the time and mail it to the person? Now when they send it digital format put it in a folder of the models name, Go in excel and type out all the info on the paper work and take advantage of the sort features the lovely company called microsoft implemented in excel for us.

Yes..I know..just having fun back.

I was peeking at the product the other day and it really does look nice.

Oh stop please stop , you saw into the future and guessed what the new proposed regs would be lol

Tony you shoot content right? You as a content shooter you already pretty much had all your content in order like the new 2257 wants it? Just the sending to secondary producers is a big problem, Now any good content producer would already have it sorted and filed in a professional mannor as the 2257 wants it, I seriously doubt a content producer would take the papers and just throw it in a card board box and say "Yeah yeah ill find it when big brother wants em fuck it until then"

You?re the primo candidate for this.
- Been in the industry as long as I have.
- Follow EVERY rule to the letter
- EXCELENT customer server
- TONS of content and talent to manage
- LOT's of docs to manage

$3000 to organize all of that?
Really too much to pay?

Are you going to have a solution for webmasters? Just a stand alone software that can handle the job of secondary producers as defined by the 2257.

MrC, hit me up on ICQ or shoot me an e-mail, I wanna chat a little.

346940591 - ICQ
bill AT newbreedmedia DOT com

Now serious look at it from our point of view, If hes been in the industry for a long time and follows every rule to the letter then he should have this shit in place and would not need your software am i wrong?

No, you are not wrong.

The my2257 software is a perfect solution for a lot of people. I am going to take a serious look at it, but for the reasons stated already, probably don't need it.

But there are a shit load of people that do.

Yes - There are two versions

PRODUCERS - published from the point of view that you know who the talent is. All the productions they appear in and the date of production. Allows you to track the distribution and follow your images with encrypted compliance information in every image

WEBMASTERS - written from the point of view that you have content and know who produced it. Let?s you fill in what you know and generate reports for the producers and you in house staff to complete the missing information.

If producer and webmaster use my225 it's very easy to merge the info through the databases

So you been in this industry and dont run your shit professionally? Wtf? I mean im a fuckin webmaster and i have everything logged and booked like im about to go away to fucking cuba prison for molesting a 12 year old, Maybe im just used to running stuff professional but this reg isnt changing much for me cept i have to be a secondary producer..

WE have everything except the printing of every fucking pic so we are going to database system . We bought filemaker pro and are going to bid out a simple database. I also have a advantage 85% of the content is my wife. There is no pic they could throw at me where I wouldnt know exactly where to find it.

Read your post and my reply again.

You said I have all my shit in place. Then you said..am I wrong? And I said..no, you are not wrong.

Just because I have all my shit in place, doesn't mean I am not going to take a look at it. There may be a better, easier way then I use now.

fuckin' expensive.. sorry :P

Not bashing your software, alot of people need help. But I know of a company that has been running 2257 software, (unix based and windows based) that kinda follows the current laws and your system since the late 90's. Huge production company.

And you don't need the video/photos attached to the software. It only needs a reference number to pull the CD or url or folder location. Ours is CD based with reference numbers attached.. Takes about 3 seconds to pull the content up. Most old school production houses have done the same thing for years, pretty simple and costs almost nothing.

100.,......

Proves my point.
This is NOT the client we are looking for.
He can be compliant very easily and has NO use for us.

Many others like him have a simpler task ahead. We are targeting those with Lot?s of content and maybe hundreds of models in those productions. These are the people that will benefit from our product. This is a studio / program management tool. Not just a compliance tool

I can see his point

ok so if its not a compliance tool your a little late on the bandwagon, This would be good back in 1990 when company's turning big, I mean im not trying to bash your program in anyway but any big company with a few hundred models should already have their stuff in order even before this law came in to place, Just because we peddle smut doesnt mean we should run our businesses any less professional than a company that sells bibles globally.

Your original patent was about the old 2257 requirements for LIVE SHOWS as in webcams. I see you filed some more info on May 26th, pretty damn quick of you. A little misleading to tell everyone you saw this coming in 2003 before the new regulations were even drafted eh?

What is claimed is:

1. A method of producing a live performance, the performance being transmitted over a network, the performance being subject to a record-keeping requirement, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing information pertaining to a live performance in accordance with a record-keeping requirement, (ii) associating the information with the live performance, (iii) providing the associated information to a custodian, and (iv) transmitting the live performance over a network.

2. The method of claim 1 wherein the live performance is transmitted over a computer network to a viewer.

3. The method of claim 2 wherein the viewer is provided with a statement prior to the transmission of the live performance, the statement comprising information pertaining to the live performance in accordance with the record-keeping requirement and a location of the custodian.

4. The method of claim 1 wherein step (iv) is performed only after the completion of step (iii).

5. The method of claim 2 wherein prior to step (iv) the viewer provides to a site that controls transmission of the live performance verification that the viewing of the live performance is legally permissible at the viewer's physical location.

6. The method of claim 5 wherein the viewer provides a credit card account number to the site that controls transmission of the live performance.

7. The method of claim 1 wherein the viewer is charged a premium prior to step (iv).

8. A method of producing a live performance, the performance being transmitted over a network, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing an identification of a performer of a live performance, (ii) verifying the identification of the performer of the live performance, (iii) providing all names used by the performer of the live performance other than the performer's legal name when the performer has at least name other than the performer's legal name, (iv) providing (a) an identification of the live performance, and (b) a date of the live performance, (v) associating the information provided in steps (i), (iii) and (iv), (vi) providing the information associated in step (v) to a custodian, and (vii) transmitting the live performance over a network.

9. The method of claim 8 wherein the live performance is transmitted over a computer network to a viewer.

10. The method of claim 9 wherein the viewer is provided with a statement prior to the transmission of the live performance, the statement comprising information pertaining to the live performance in accordance with the record-keeping requirement and a location of the custodian.

11. The method of claim 8 wherein the identification of the live performance is a title or an identification number.

12. The method of claim 8 wherein the live performance is performed by a plurality of performers, and wherein steps (i)-(vi) are carried out with respect to each of said plurality of performers.

13. The method of claim 8 wherein step (vii) is performed only after completion of step (vi).

14. A method of producing a live performance, the performance being transmitted over a network, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing a verified identification of a performer of a live performance, (ii) providing all names used by the performer of the live performance other than the performer's legal name when the performer has at least name other than the performer's legal name, (iii) providing (a) an identification of the live performance, and (b) a date of the live performance, (iv) associating the information provided in steps (i), (ii) and (iii), (v) providing the information associated in step (iv) to a custodian, and (vi) transmitting the live performance over a network.

15. The method of claim 14 wherein the live performance is transmitted over a computer network to a viewer.

16. The method of claim 15 wherein the viewer is provided with a statement prior to the transmission of the live performance, the statement comprising information pertaining to the live performance in accordance with the record-keeping requirement and a location of the custodian.

17. The method of claim 14 wherein the identification of the performance is a title or an identification number.

18. The method of claim 14 wherein the live performance is performed by a plurality of performers, and wherein steps (i)-(v) are carried out with respect to each of said plurality of performers.

19. The method of claim 14 wherein step (vi) is performed only after completion of step (v).

20. A method of producing a live performance, the performance being transmitted over a computer network to a viewer, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing to a custodian prior to commencement of a live performance (a) a verified identification of a performer of the live performance, (b) all names used by the performer of the live performance other than the performer's legal name when the performer has at least name other than the performer's legal name, (c) an identification of the live performance, and (b) a date of the live performance, (ii) providing a statement to a viewer over a computer network prior to the commencement of the live performance, the statement comprising the identification of the live performance, the date of the live performance, and a location of the custodian, and (iii) transmitting the live performance to the viewer over the computer network.

21. A method of providing a recorded performance to a viewer over a network, the recorded performance being subject to a record-keeping requirement, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing to a custodian information pertaining to a recorded performance in accordance with a record-keeping requirement, (ii) providing a statement to a viewer over a network prior to the transmission of the recorded performance to the viewer, the statement comprising information pertaining to the recorded performance and to the custodian in accordance with the record-keeping requirement, and (iii) transmitting the recorded performance to the viewer over the network.

22. A method of providing a recorded performance to a viewer over a network, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing to a custodian (a) a verified identification of a performer of a recorded performance, (b) all names used by the performer of the live performance other than the performer's legal name when the performer has at least name other than the performer's legal name, (c) an identification of the recorded performance, and (b) a date of the recorded performance, (ii) providing a statement to a viewer over a network prior to the transmission of the recorded performance to the viewer, the statement comprising the identification the recorded performance, the date of the recorded performance, and a location of the custodian, and (iii) transmitting the recorded performance to the viewer over the network.

23. A method of transmitting a live performance to a viewer over a network, the performance being subject to a record-keeping requirement, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing information pertaining to a live performance in response to a request from a viewer for a transmission of the live performance over a network, the information being provided in accordance with a record-keeping requirement, (ii) associating the information with the live performance, (iii) providing the associated information to a custodian, and (iv) transmitting the live performance to the viewer over the network.

24. A method of producing record of a performance, the performance being transmitted over a network, the performance being subject to a record-keeping requirement, the method comprising the steps of: (i) providing information pertaining to a performance in accordance with a record-keeping requirement, (ii) associating the information with the performance, (iii) providing the associated information to a custodian, and (iv) providing means enabling a viewer to access information pertaining to the performance and to the custodian over the network.

25. A system for producing a record of a live performance, the live performance transmitted over a network, the live performance being subject to a record-keeping requirement, the system comprising: (i) means for entering into a database information pertaining to a live performance in accordance with a record-keeping requirement, (ii) means for associating the information with a live performance, (iii) means for providing the associated information to a custodian, (iv) means for providing a viewer with information pertaining to the live performance in accordance with the record-keeping requirement, and (v) means for providing a viewer with access to a transmission of the live performance after receipt by the viewer of information pertaining to the live performance in accordance with the record-keeping requirement.

It would appear you're trying to patent the way live webcams are carried over the internet, billed, etc. on top of your record keeping stuff. You going to sue Ifriends and the likes when they ignorantly grant you this patent?

Live shows are in this regulation too!
We started a full face lift of the product in July of 2004 once the proposed regulations were released.

As you can see the Patent Application has been published and we had our subsequent filings what are called "continuation-in-part applications" (or "CIP's" for short) ready to go once we knew the final release version of the regulations.

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In my opinion you m2257 guys are nothing more than bloodsucking leeches expoliting people who are trying to deal with a sucker punch from the DOJ.

Tell your esteemed attorney, Greg Piccionelli, to get off his ass and file an injunction against the new 2257, or take other action to prevent the new 2257 from becoming enforced instead of just trying to make a quick buck from it.

If you folks really cared, you could explain in simple steps what actions people need to take...and it's fairly simple, such as put your 2257 records in manila folders, and then create a cross-index system with an Excel (or other) spreadsheet.

Then you would be helping the industry, instead of preying on the ignorance and fear of some in the industry.

Your system doesn't deal with the privacy issues, TGP issues or other issues that various webmasters have raised in here.

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As for your claims about inquiries/orders for your product...pshaww, right! Make a PhotoShop chart - that will convince people (NOT!).

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I ... Love.. You.. Thank you for putting it in simple words :1orglaugh

Of course live shows are in the regulations. So here's a straightforward question for you. Since it is the opinion of some lawyers that EVERY webcam show broadcast must be recorded and stored for 7 years, is your system set up for this as well and will your hard drives hold 2 or 3 terrabytes of recorded shows as well?

I LOVE YOUR HUMOR!
Thank you - I needed that!

you love that its the truth?

All I can say is when the DOJ is standing there asking you where this and that are you'll be wishing you had a system like this. Is $3K and $200/mo worth it? If you are more than part time I can see it being worth it. After the initial purchase whats $200/mo. if you are making the $10K/mo. that you all claim to be.

All it will take is a few major sponsors to pick this up and it will become the industry standard. If you have it and the sponsor you want to promote it has it your life just became a lot easier.

Truth in you opinion and your welcome to publish it.

I understand that this software may not fit your needs or be more than you need, but that does not mean that it won't assist others.
If it really upsets you this much move on to another thread and be done with it.

Where can I get the software?

Gimme a fucking break.

First and foremost, Picionelli IS spending his time at a significantly reduced rate to fight this....know that.

Secondly, how are they leeches? They are offering a product that fills a need. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to purchase their product. I am sure there will be many other products that fill the need as well. Some may be higher priced, some lower. The consumer is the one that will put the ultimate value on this, or any other product.

The overwhelming percentage of consumer products were invented to fill a need. Are their inventors all leeches as well? Of course not.

A KIA will get you to work in the morning, so based on your theory, why buy a Jaguar?

Grow up people, this is business.

Pick up a copy of Office 2003 at the local office supply store and run excel and get to it!

Thank You.
A major program is using the product and has been aiding us in BETA testing and development from a programs point of view. They have been extremely valuable to the project as they look at it in a different light then we did.

ummm yea and all the possible things that that could have meant, you just happened to know they would fuck with 2257.. :upsidedow

Interesting thread.

Congrats on your new software - it's always an accomplishment when a development project is actually completed (whatever it is) - I'm assuming you are able to deliver today and not pushing vapourware to secure your foot in the door.

It's unfortunate though, that part of our industry (you) is already defecting (to the right) and banking on the failure of what is about to be a richeous and historic rebuttal by FSC (on our behalf and all those whose freedom of expression is at risk) to what is clearly wrong legislation (and unAmerican - says this Canadian neighbour who can't believe what's going on down there).

Even if an injunction is not achieved, the 'new improved 2257' must be challenged and contested with dedication and tenacity much in the way that Mr. Flint literally took a bullet (from the right) for us.

I don't question the fiscal efficacy of your preparedness and introduction and hoping that FSC will fail to protect our rights - you have to be in market ahead of time, but I do question whether you are really a peer of our industry or more akin to a personal injury lawyer or undertaker hovering in the hospital waiting/hoping for the patient to die.

-Dino