Look Common since prevails!
Thank you for stating it so simply
Your 100% right - we are not looking for everyone?s business.
JUST those who see a need for what we offer.
So far 41 have requested additional info from the site since 5:31PM PST

If it can handle live videos, that that is kinda phat and would be worth the price.

Live videos are coming soon.
We have more continuation-in-part applications to file pertaining to live video.
Again - until the regulations were published we did not know what the final regulations would require.

Dino...

I will be contacting you in the morning.

I plan to take full advantage of all of the services you offer.

I have a need and it seems you have a solution to fill that need. A perfect match.

Can I assume that there will be no charge for your services? I mean, you aren't a leech are you?

Main Entry: 1leech
Pronunciation: 'lEch
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English leche, from Old English l[AE]ce; akin to Old High German lAhhi physician
1 archaic : PHYSICIAN, SURGEON
2 [from its former use by physicians for bleeding patients] : any of numerous carnivorous or bloodsucking usually freshwater annelid worms (class Hirudinea) that have typically a flattened lanceolate segmented body with a sucker at each end
3 : a hanger-on who seeks advantage or gain
synonym see PARASITE
- leech·like /-"lIk/ adjective

LEECH

Main Entry: medicinal leech
Function: noun
: a large European freshwater leech (Hirudo medicinalis) formerly used by physicians for bleeding patients

Hummmm
Used by Doctors to save lifes

Not such a bad thing in my book

I try to offer fair value for dollar, but I don't work to undermine or build projects which are counting on harm coming to my peers.

I wasn't questioning whether the posturing of this product was good business move or not (I stated that clearly). I remember the days when we all loved MS. They made a lot of 'smart' moves (and money) but that has its consequences.

Thanks, but don't bother calling me in the morning - your sense of industry loyalty I can do without.

-Dino

I am a producer and I filled out an interest form prior to reading this post. The product seems like great software. But it has a lot of extra non-2257 related features that I do not need. Plus it's really expensive and I don't need an ongoing service and expenses except for occasional update of the software itself. And I don't need a new pc specifically to keep records. Good luck with it, but I think I will have to see what other software solutions become available soon.

JMM??
You and I have been in this industry since what 1997?
Worked together many times over the years.

Wonder how many others have been around since 1997??

And what exactly makes you think that the price for this product is NOT fair value?

There is immediate need for a product like this. Immediate. They chose to spend their time and resources to create one. Because you and some others think it's too expensive, they are branded as leeches. When would you prefer they release their product? June 28th perhaps?

This is not my product and I have nothing to do with it. I just feel that the comments in this post towards my2257 are both absurd and uncalled for.

Funny thing, I have been planning on calling you for a few days, and I still will. Message boards are message boards, business is business.

Finally, my sense of industry loyalty? The problem with message boards is that it is sometimes difficult to know who you are talking to. I own one of the companies that chose to stand up and fight Acacia rather than cave. The ultimate result, hopefully, will provide you, and everyone else in this industry the right and opportunity to stream video without having to turn over 5% of your money to Acacia. I am quite proud of my industry loyalty.

Question: What have you done for the industry? No need to answer that, it is a rhetorical question.

Looking forward to talking with you.

True dat..and Im still waiting for something from you David!!! hint hint hint

Capitalism is alive and well at GFY! God bless America!

BTW, I have made a determination that any product priced at more than $399 is the result of scum sucking leeches trying to take advantage of their fellow webmaster. If you come across any 2257 products priced higher than that, make sure you let them know that their momma's are ashamed of them.

double you tee ehf? Now your saying 399$ is a rip off but you support a program selling people a computer for a little bit of software for over 3k?

lol, I think JMM was being sarcastic.

No, that is not what I said.

This is the second time in this thread alone, how come you have such a tough time with MY posts specifically?

I said any product priced HIGHER than $399. So, for example, $399= ok, $399.50= NOT OK!

And before you move the mouse up and to the right...it's a JOKE!

I DO NOT SUPPORT a program selling people a computer for a little bit of software for over 3k. What I DO support is their right to create such a program and to sell it for whatever they feel it is worth. Again, the consumer will be the ultimate judge of the value of my2257's product. After I have had an opportunity to fully evaluate what my2257 is offering, only then will I be able to support it, or not support it, whatever the case may be.

and people wonder why lawyers are so hated...thanks again piconelli

jeez....I could do the database design in a day and it will run on mysql on whatever server yer currently using...no need for a bundled system.

If I do the DB design who would code it?

Mike... I just heard you were in town!!! Should of gave me a holler, I would rolled up to the bukkake if I knew. :pimp

Slaughter?

I reviewed both your patent applications:

10/644,635 - filed on 08-19-2003

and

60/404,737 - filed way back on 08-20-2002!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that I was mistakenly assuming that you were 'one of us' with a common vested interest in our success as an adult industry with a heathy set of rights.

Your patent applications suggest that this (my2257) is the invention of a group of lawyers who recognized the incredible opportunity 2257 offered back in 2002 - especially if a conservative executive decided (in future) to tighten the screws by enforcing and/or increasing the restrictions.

It does NOT take 2 years to develop a network synchronized DB application (I've been developing commercial software since since 1979). I suspect that you have been squatting on the patent and *hoping* that 2257 would become the nightmare it has for your own personal gains. Your (inventor) resume suggests that you have specialty expertise in Internet Law for adult industry, and as council for other webmasters (visa vi your legal seminars/workshops) you certainly would have had the forsight to recognize that some day 2257 could be a goldmine for you - regardless of how bad the legislation is and how much harm it may cause. But instead of using your skills to address the problem, you chose to posture for profit from the problem.

By applying for the patent, instead of contributing and facilitating a multi-faceted technical effort (visa vi open source, shareware to HELP webmasters deal with this) for developing any recordkeeping applications should they be required (if FSC fails in its attempts), you locked the door and, as per some of your 'warnings' to competitors (earlier in this thread) indicated, that there is a toll to pay now and you are the toll keeper.

I think I hit the nail on the head when I compared your 'contribution' to that of a personal injury lawyer - vital service, but someone has to get hurt for you to make a buck.

So here we are, again, as usual, with lawyers working on one side (the great team working with FSC to defend our rights) and another bunch hoping for blood.

Some things truly are constant.

-Dino

Am I close?

So my2257 is ran by a group of lawyers? I thought a lawyer just filed the patent when i did a google on the name of the person that filed the patent, Would make since for a lawyer to make money on the misfortune of the industry

I'm just interpretting the information in the patent application.

It seems that a lawyer (attorney) is listed as the Inventor.

And the first application was made in 2002.

That's what I read from it.

Last time I looked I owned a studio and produced content

Are you the Inventor first listed in the patent?

Are you a laywer and/or attorney?

This whole debate seems silly...

Look the guy created a program that may be of interest to some people. If thats the case, great BUY IT. If not DONT BUY IT. Make your spreadsheets and file your docs your own way. Simple as that.

He has stated repeatedly that its not for everyone. If someone else comes out with something better/cheaper then he can flush his investment down the drain or adapt. Either way the market will decide as it always does.

On a side note (and perhaps a little of a flame), i do feel that from a marketing standpoint all the "patent pending" shit is gonna rub this group the wrong way. We've all been there and done that....

Well stated and noted.
Thank you for the advice

so what, that's what lawyers do.

and i do not fault anyone for trying to make a buck.

but my point is if someone is really trying to make a buck here they need to understand some very basic FACTS:

1. probably 85% of USA adult webmasters will have to comply due to what sort of content they handle.

2. how many are there?, i don't know, 40,000, 60,000, 100,000---someone pick a number---it is a BIG number.

3. the ONLY way anyone is going to sell a 2257 compliance kit in big numbers is IF it is affordable, works on the guy's own hardware, and actually does what is needed to facilitate compliance---because that is what is needed, not a lot of extraneous bullshit.

this is a huge market worth millions.

and someone is going to make some big sugar if he understands this market.

Dino...

You really need a playbill. The lawyers on the FSC side, and the one on the my2257, are one in the same.

Again, looking forward to speaking with you soon.

Why would I not use a Lawyer that is big in the industry and has worked for years to defend our rights?

http://digitalmirage.net/x3/files/salesman.jpg

I'm sure Lawyer Greg and you don't care about the money, and you're both just doing this out of benevolence, LOL.

If so, then P.T. Barnum was right:

http://www.ravediet.com/images/WilliamBanting.jpg

Perhaps I should offer a $500,000 program, that guarantees people they will not be busted if they have models fill-in simple forms, and provide pics of them with their IDs, and then file it and cross-index it.

Since I'm charging more, it should be even more worth it right?

But wait...why should such a program cost $500,000, or even $2,500 (plus $2,000+ annually), when it is not expensive or difficult for people to figure out (or for you to explain) how to do it for themselves (btw, if you had a conscious, this is where you should start feeling guilty)?

Again, I'm not hearing any solutions to the more complex issues here.

This isn't rocket surgery!!!

http://lycanthropy.applegoddess.org/...My%20Flesh.jpg

Also, you never answered the question about what company is providing the free images for anyone willing to pay my2257's exorbinant fee to get the ID's/personal info of the models (many of whom may never have imagined that you would sell out their personal info - as if you care about that)?

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Seriously?

Where I'm from, that's called a conflict of interest. If there is a vested financial interest in 2257 law forcing webmasters to have to software up (to a patented solution) just to keep track of details which in other countries are protected by privacy laws, how much defense are we really going to get in trying to have that law put in its place?

Are you *really* saying that the lawyer behind the patent app for my2257 is also working on the case with FSC?

Now I've heard it all.

Good luck guys!

Don't buy my2257's:

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Sent it to Greg
Sure he will appreciate it!

WTF is your problem dude? Chill out.

Is my2257 Dave, Dave Slaughter?

my2257,

you said you have been in this industry for 10 years. Who are you and what company?

I belive Jeff has been around before 1997.

thanks

Todd

I'll take 10 Units!


L$

Says this right at the top of the pricing release

What's it like being a shill/Greg's bitch?

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Np my2257, just don't remember you online from 10 years ago.

What was your name again?

Thanks

Todd