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* To: stld-rfp-xxx@xxxxxxxxx * Subject: ICM * From: Joanasacp@xxxxxxx * Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 03:52:05 -0400 ASACP (asacp.org) is the organization that helps the adult site industry make a difference in the battle against child pornography. ASACP recognizes sexual child abuse as a heinous crime committed against children. As a major deterrent to such abuse, ASACP was formed in 1996 and is dedicated to eliminating child pornography from the Internet. ASACP also provides a self-regulatory vehicle for its membership through a Code of Ethics that promotes the protection of children through responsible, professional business practices. Over 4,700 adult sites have joined our cause in raising awareness about this subject. ASACP investigates and assists the F.B.I. and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) in enforcing anti-child pornography laws against thousands of child pornography sites. To date, ASACP has received and reviewed over 100,000 reports of suspect child pornography, of which more than 25,000 valid child pornography sites have been reported to the F.B.I and NCMEC. ASACP has been in negotiations with the International Foundation for Online Responsibility (IFFOR) and ICM for it to serve as a hotline for reviewing reports of suspected child pornography and to carry out the secondary monitoring of .xxx sites for child pornography. I applaud IFFOR and ICM Registry's initiative to integrate tools and technology of finding and reporting child pornography websites into their proposed registry application to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). I also support the online adult industry developing their own credible business practices in conjunction with other impacted stakeholders and support the IFFOR initiative to create a line of communication between the adult industry and the global community. Sincerely, Joan Irvine Executive Director ASACP We had no view thats funny how stupid do you think we are. Remember this when you pass their booth at the shows. |
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95% of their "official statement on .xxx" contains nothing but information that has NOTHING to do with that topic.... "6. ASACP`s next project is to work with the cell phone industry to develop a solution for its users to report child pornography as this is the newest distribution method." Now that is clarifying information - not |
[QUOTE=Mr.Fiction]Will ASACP take a stand against a mandatory move to the .xxx domain?
ASACP does not ?approve? or ?disapprove? .xxx. Democrat Joe Lieberman had already proposed .xxx legislation. ASACP does not lobby, that?s what FSC does. But personally I would not support mandatory .xxx. |
Yes .xxx will protect the children :1orglaugh
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If you don't approve of ASACP, then stop giving them your money and support. Joan will wither away (even more than she has already).
She has proved to me and many others that she does NOT have this industries best interests at heart. Watch out for any self-appointed "industry watchdogs" -- remember that NO ONE VOTED or HAD ANY SAY AT ALL into who serves on the ASACP committe. Who is watching the watchers? |
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Thanks for putting that Joan.
The really sad thing that I see, is the the government, in all the efforts to stop child pornography, is doing thier best to get rid of the watch dogs that do help them, and that is us. I have no problem having the 2257 in order, but the government is trying to make 2257 into something that it should not be. And that is a tool to get rid of legal porn. |
[QUOTE=JPeterman]who serves on the ASACP committe.
This information is on the ASACP site - http://www.asacp.org/aboutus.php |
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ASACP has been in negotiations with the International Foundation for Online Responsibility (IFFOR) and ICM for it to serve as a hotline for reviewing reports of suspected child pornography and to carry out the secondary monitoring of .xxx sites for child pornography. I applaud IFFOR and ICM Registry's initiative to integrate tools and technology of finding and reporting child pornography websites into their proposed registry application to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). Now Im not the smartest guy in the world but I applaud sounds like support. lol |
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But in this case all good sense was stragely set aside. In this case of .XXX it doesn't matter who's on the Advisory Council because it seems they weren't the ones who made the decision on Dot XXX, and Joan hasn't said otherwise. If that's not right and the Council voted then PLEASE tell us! So who made the decision? Why wasn't the Advistory Council asked to vote before that letter was sent to ICANN and funding was accepted? Now we're going to see attempts to make this mandatory... apparently Senator Lieberman has already lined up to make the push, if Joan is right. The fact that making it mandatory would only HELP increase what ASACP gets in funds (since the Xbiz stoy says they cut a cut of every domain name) raises a serious "conflict of interest" concern. |
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Hey, way to take a piece of a sentence out of context and answer a question that was never asked. Let me ask another. Does ASACP still take XXL-Cash's sponsor money, even after XXL-Cash's processing was terminated by CCbill for direct links to child porn? The ASACP banner flying on the XXL-Cash site is proof of your ineffectiveness and incompetence. And how does getting sloppy drunk at tradeshows fit into ASACP's mission statement? We've all seen you! |
Damn, Joan, you must have said you don't like SUVs at some time, so the government raised the price of gas to try and get them off the road.
Personally I see the .xxx as someone's idea of a way to make money. From that standpoint, I'm sorry I didn't think of the idea myself and figure out how to get a cut off every one of the registrations. When .xxx becomes a fact, what registrars will handle it? The same ones that handle .com, .net, .biz, etc? If so, I guess quite a few people stand to make some money on it. To the industry, it's a fucking joke. Child pornographers don't care about .xxx, they don't care about .com, they don't care about anything. The vast majority of them aren't in the US would be my guess. The government is going to do everything it can in the next few years to cripple this industry. I think that so many people's time could be so much better spent figuring out how to keep their legs under them than bickering with every other segment of this industry. I'd use my herding cats statement but that one's been appropriated over the years by so many other people I don't like the taste of it in my mouth any more. |
Is it true that ASACP benefits with funding (percent or per domain) in direct proportion to the number of .xxx domains that will be sold?
If ASACP is benefitting from .xxx directly or indirectly, is the funding used for any other purpose other than to fight child porn? (misc business expenses, salaries, etc) Although I highly respect Connor, I'm looking at Joan's statement and don't see it as an endorsement for .xxx: "I applaud IFFOR and ICM Registry's initiative to integrate tools and technology of finding and reporting child pornography"... It's almost like Joan is looking to exploit any opportunity to fight child pornography, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. She doesn't seem to be looking to take a bias either way, she's just saying hey thanks for considering ASACP. That's how I read it at least. My honest take so far, but I reserve my final judgement until more questions are answered. It's hard to go against ASACP since they've done a lot of good for this industry. If any type of organization should be given the benefit of the doubt, it seems this would be one. p.s. I'm strongly against the .xxx domain extension. |
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good stuff joan :thumbsup
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The only question I have is does asacp get a cut from every xxx name sold or not? Please answer yes or no Joan. thanks
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There are plenty of ways to fight child porn without the entire adult industry being put in this awful position. I've been in this industry for a long time now... when it was just forming AS an industry. I think this industry is unlike any other, and for the most part I love its culture. It disturbs me to see people from INSIDE the industry put it at this kind of risk voluntarily. |
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"While the selling price for .XXX domains has not yet been determined, Jason Hendeles, ICM Registry vice president, said that $10 of each domain sale will be designated to IFFOR to contribute to issues facing the online adult industry, and of those proceeds, a percentage will be donated to the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection and the battle against child pornography." http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?i...archstring=xxx |
I do not support Joan or the ASACP. That is well documented. But in this case my "give someone enough rope and they'll hang themselves" position seems to be holding true.
Back-peddle all you want Joan, you are only digging the hole deeper for yourself and ASACP. Steve Lightspeed |
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In the future, ASACP may be the hammer that the government uses to beat the adult industry with.
Doesn't ASACP's letter of support of .XXX tell the government that the adult industry believes that .xxx is a valid way to fight child porn? Imagine Lieberman talking about how even the adult industry anti-child porn group supports .xxx - only those who support child porn in the adult industry must be against .xxx! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images/icons/mad2.gif |
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Evidence is much more clear. Thanks Connor. |
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Some peeps who are in this industry and that we look upon are going to make a few bucks out of it. This deal as been well thaught off and planned. It's how we will as an industry, Roll with the Punches that will make a difference. In many threads regarding this issue many of you have placed great comments and although I truly beleive that ASCAP is there for a good cause and working for one of the big problems in the industry. But I have to agree with Connor, although they say they are biase and do not agree or disagree, they have made it clear in a letter they think it's a great idea and with that statement and makign a cut out of the $10 for each domain sold, well, shows at some point they are keen on the Idea... (Hope y'all can read JManese :1orglaugh ) |
interesting stuff never the less
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thanks for keeping us updated.
tony |
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