50.........,

Hey woj...you can keep your 50's the fuck outta my thread before i Party Goat bot yours

The problem with the American system, as it is, is that there is very little preventative care. Very few citizens can afford to go to the dr for general health check ups and refuse to see a dr until it's a HUGE deal requiring ER, surgery, ICU, etc. A large amount of money could be saved by encouraging preventative care.

Yes this is where I am for universal healthcare. For PREVENTATIVE care. I mean if a poor person gets so fucked up they end up in an emergency room the government( actually the tax payers ) are going to have to pay that bill anyways. If paying for a check-up once a year prevents most of these types of things then in the long run the tax payer SAVES money. And as far as kids go, there is no reason why ANYONE should bitch about children under at least 15 getting a yearly physical paid for by us the taxpayers. If you do you are a heartless fuck and desrve to die horribly.

you should be honored that I decided to "woj" your thread :-P

It wouldn't be the same without woj at 50 :thumbsup

never... the people that send their kids to private school get no tax benefit nor do the people that dont use the health care system at all

You = Clueless idiot.

Another proof that you don't know shit about what's going on in Quebec or even about the political parties we have.

The PQ = Social Democrats. You know.. Almost like the NDP (Maybe it will give you some clues). I am a social democrat and I would never accept 2 healthcare systems in Canada. Now just shuuuuuut the fuck up and go take some vicodins. I think you need them badly right now.

Unfortunately all the good doctors will move to the private sector and the public sector will be left with a lack of doctors (they're already in high demand), and a sub-standard service with huge wait times. :(

Our health care system already sucks, this is just another step in the wrong direction... fortunately it's just in Quebec, lol.

Alot can't even afford to go when it is a huge deal.... a health care system should operate based on a persons health needs, not how much money they have. :2 cents:

Well, we all pay for health care... unless you make under a certain amount per year. That's the beautiful thing about universal health care, no matter who you are you WILL get treated and at the same level of urgency as someone with millions of dollars.

I'd imagine they would no longer have to pay the $50/month or whatever it is in Quebec to health care, and then just be left to fend for themselves.

You know dipshit, you and I had no problem with each other until you started pushing your separatist air-headed bullshit, and on an American-owned adult webmaster board I might add. How fucking retarded is that?

We disagree on that one issue, get the fuck over it asshole.

You = separatist fuckface. Does that make us even? :D


And your own argument on those "separatist" threads from a few months ago were in support of building ties with the US if you had to, anything to separate was the theme from you, Skillful and that other twit who lives in France, the chick who got banned. By your own argument, that of possibly making a deal with the US, wft do you separatists THINK would happen to Quebec's health care?

Idiot.


Hey, talk to me like a fucking human and I'll respond with equal respect. Keep runing your stupid cockhole at me and you'll get responses like this one. Your call. I'm more than happy to let you continue making yourself look the fool for as long as you'd care to keep it going. :1orglaugh

And NoBarrier, the PQ are such "social democrats" that they jump in seconds to back the PC's (who are of course as right-wing in Canada as it gets).... Why? Because they think it furthers their chances of separation from Canada. Yeah, sure they're lefties... when it suits them.

Stop wasting everyone's time.

Agreed on all points.

Look, you have no valid argument in this thread you fuckface. You stupid english stuborn canadian dickhead. The more you reply, the more I understand why the next referendum is going to win. Anyway, this thread is about healthcare, not sovereignty. :1orglaugh

My values = Social democracy. I will never approve a private healthcare system. NEVER. And the PQ will never approve it.

Now go back to your rotten wheelchair and swallow more vicodins.

Zzzzz.. Again..Another clueless idiotic post from you.. When did the PQ approve the PC's? The only time in history was when René Levesque thought it might be possible with Brian Mulroney (What a bad move, many ministers actually quit). And they were right, the Lake Meech accord was rejected years later.

Look, :1orglaugh the more I read your posts, the more I understand how fucking clueless you are about politics and Quebec's history.

"duhhh you stupid english canadian dickhead blah blah fuckface blah fucking blah"


Nocarrier....

1. You would never, repeat NEVER in a million years talk like that to me in person.

2. One day maybe, possibly, you will get back to being able to talk like a fucking semi-intelligent human. Until that day you remain as always a complete twit.

3. I have EVERY argument in this thread, and it is in fact you who have no argument. Fact is, there never WAS an argument in this thread until you limped your way in.

4. "When did the PQ approve the PC's?"...... idiot. Go back and read those threads by Painintheass where you idiots were all cocking off about hoping the PC's win. Several of you said it, you know it, I know it, everyone who read it and gives even the slightest shit about it knows it.


Now come back in here and run your cockhole at me some more fag. I like it. :D

Oh and mr separatist asshole, tell me how much the average Quebec separatist knows about Manitoba history, Sask history, Alberta history, BC history.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Sweet fuck all.


And twit, you don't know a thing about what I know about history, so shut it. Talking out of your ass suits you, but it's still not adviseable. :D

Fact is, although I know a great deal about Canadian history including ALL it's provinces, most people west of you would say "who gives a shit about Quebec's history?" :1orglaugh

All I said earlier was that it could be a ploy by separatists to push for a more Amercanized (two-tier) health care system for Quebec, that's all. Could be. I did not say anything with bold strokes, so why are you getting so fucked in the head about it?

Why does my little supposition (and that's all it was) intimidate and irritate you so much? Maybe because there could be some truth behind it? Surely you don't presume to know the motives and mindsets of every separatist in Quebec, do you?

No?

Then shut the fuck up about it.

It was a thought, that's all. If you say it's wrong then fine, no need to get all bitchy and crybaby about it.

Are we done?

I don't know much aside from Manitoba, since I had family there.

This said, I don't give an opinion or instructions of how these provinces should mind their business, unlike you do for Quebec.

That makes me smarter than you. :2 cents:

If any of those other provinces had enough fuckheads in them and wanted to cause a rift in our country like Quebec does, the rest of Canada certainly would have an opinion about it.

Sorry, you lose.



And guys, if you don't like my opinion about this subject then don't read it. It's not an intricate concept, is it? It's no secret our respective sides disagree, must you cesessionists jump the shit of everyone who says even the slightest thing that goes against the separatist grain? Because... you know that that's annoying, right? :1orglaugh

Clue: people are tired of this argument. Many have posted to that effect. I know I am, how about giving your keyboards a rest?

Your first post in this thread:

So why don't you STFU!

You brought this Angle" in this thread ... BTW, who are " THOSE ".... Your every post remind me why we want to separate. Keep up the good work :thumbsup

Well this thread sure turned boring.

I think a two tiered system is a slippery slope, it's the first step towards getting rid of universal coverage altogether.

Same as Dubya's plan to "partially" privatize social security. It's the first step towards getting rid of it altogether and going back to each elderly person for themselves.

Single payer health care systems aren't perfect, but they're far better than the scheme America has, where a bunch of greedy money launderers (read HMO's) stand between you and your doctor.
We spend far more per capita in the U.S. on healthcare and can't manage to cover everyone. Cut the HMO's and their profit out of the equation and the $$ saved is enough to cover every person who doesn't currently have coverage.

:2 cents:

Do you understand how much wealth our countries generate? We live in two of the richest countries on the planet. Not only should every human being have health care paid for by the government, we should have free university, and we shouldn't pay any income tax. I'll never understand why people like all of their county's wealth going to a couple families that they're not related to. Less than 100,000 families control all of the money in your country, you don't know any of them, and yet you think everyone should get even less. You're a sucker dude. Even if you have a couple million dollars yourself chances are not all of your friends and loved ones do.