this thread isn't about Sammy jr, this is about you, by you. You have issues. You REALLY need to see a Doctor about your anger and complete inability to live with criticism.

I aint mad...

Not at all...
Being mad would break what comes natural.

You know, with people backing you professionaly here and there, you very well could have one of the best reputations on this board. Infact, the right people speak so highly of you, I know that you must be a pretty decent guy to do business with.

So why do you drag yourself down continuously with crap like this?

Do you honestly think that you're "opening people's eyes" or something? Because you're not. People formed an opinion of AaronM and Amp a LONG time ago... and you're really not changing anyone's minds. Either they hated them or liked them and what you say changes nothing to that effect.

All you're doing is harming the way people look at you and the way people think about you.

You look like a psycho... a deranged lunatic. Would I hire you based on what others have said about your work ethic? Sure. Would I hire you based on how you present yourself... absolutely not. Guess which one out weighs the other... you'd think that other's opinions would matter more, but in a lot of cases, it doesn't.

You come out looking like the loser in all of this... time and time again. In the end, those you attack live their life the same every day as if you didn't exist no matter what you do or say.

What will people remember about you and all these fights? That you're a joke and how crazy you are.

That's the only thing people will remember.

And that's why people confuse you.

NichePay Stuart, its nothing but a reckoning.

I doubt you kept up with why this was comming...
I have a quick reference.
http://www.ialien.com/freedom.html

I have a problem with people that do bad shit to people in this biz.
Especially when they are clients and associates.

Follow the lines see why these two GFY dinosaurs have a problem with me.
I am more skilled then the both of them put together, and drastically more effective at handing out ass as they deserve.

And denial isn't just a river in Egypt. In all honesty, I don't like your designs one bit, but some do, and compliment you on them. Good show. But your personality, as portrayed here specifically, leads me to believe you should seek help.

Look at why you were banned, then look at this thread. Hell, you should be happy, people are attacking you with their normal nicks, vs the fake ones.

Not for nuttin but both Alien and Amp have done the designer zoolander pose shit and both have posted it on GFY....

Thats what I think of when I think of them two acting a like....

I kept up just fine, infact... probably had more behind the scenes info than you did. Did I make any statements? no... it's not my business. Although I could have.

Did I make any attacks? Absolutely not... know why? Because it's none of my business.

I really have no intention of making myself out to look like a crazed maniac the way you are now.

There is no reckoning... there is only you sounding like a mad man.

Don't kid yourself most of them are fake nics...

This deal of a thread was between just a couple.
People want to jump, be my guest but if I bite you for it...
Don't say ya didnt ask for it.

ODD's are you did ask for it.

Just like AMP and AaronM.

For the record, i've taken the time to talk to alienq on icq and he is very polite and well spoken.. actually ended up ordering some design work off of him, and he was VERY prompt and patient with my suggestions to his design etc... at an unbeatable price... one thing i know about him is that hes passionate about what he does and how he lives and will speak his mind about anything he likes, now if only more people were like that it would be nice...

STUART - I am sure ya got plenty of behind the scenes info.
But not all of it.

You never talked to me did you?
Do not be presumptive if you dont know the story the full story.
By that I mean maybe ya should get the full story and contact me sometime.
Otherwise your biased.

If you spoke to that whinny ass fuckhead AaronM he can put on a good talk and convincing but ultimatly its all shit.

50........ :arcadefre

51 wojs that can suck it

i don't want to start with this drama again, but behind the scenes info = biased information

I know I don't have all of the behind the scenes info, but then again, neither do you. And you can say you do all you want... but you and I both know that you don't.

You're making your own biased opinion here... that's all anyone is making. Opinions... based on what they perceive to be the truth.

That's what is called "sticking your nose into other people's business."

It's a bold statement for you to tell me not to be presumptive when I don't know the full story, since you don't know it either.

Have you talked to me? No, so do you know the things I do? No. Go ahead and say it... "it doesn't matter"

Oh but it does, you said so yourself in the very post I'm quoting.

Seriously dude, calm down.... you're really making yourself look bad by going on and on like this.

And when you get banned again (and you will), will you return to say how much you've learned only to do it all again the very same day..... again?

Who ever said that it was?

It wan not meant to be funny. It's basic business...Something that you know nothing about.

BTW....Did you get caught up on your projects while you were banned? I know several people who claim they have paid you for design work and you have never delivered.

Exactly.. which is why I didn't get involved.

So what other info is there? in front of the scenes info? How much more reliable is that? Is that what AlienQ is basing his attacks on AaronM on?

If I am not allowed to speak because of what was said on this board, and what I know of behind the scenes... why is AlienQ?

Because he's a psycho? That's only because he makes himself look like one by doing the very thing that you two are saying I shouldn't do.

Nailed it. :D

All of the above has crossed my mind, but I've been to lazy to type it today.

:thumbsup to you Stu.

i'm not argueing with you man, i'm just highlighting the fact that behind the scenes info = biased info.... thats it.... if you understand that then its all good, it was the only point i was trying to make

More lies?

LOL!
Been on schedual just fucken fine and no complaints.

Thats how you operate AaronM trying to spread bullshit...

Are you saying I scammed people and not having proof?
Thats Bannable ya know.

You are a liar.
Put up or shut up, I have yet to have one unsatisfied client in 10 years.
You however...

You are fucken retard that calls em himself a photographer.
Your a piss poor business man desperate to look at naked chicks while using inuendo to defame your victims.

AaronM you should be banned right the fuck now stating that I have taken people money and not delivered a project.

LIES...

Infact I would like to know who they are if your so well informed AaronM?

Because to date not a single client's order within the last couple months has been late nor unfulfilled.

Put up or shut up or say your sorry bitch.

Well AaronM...

Till you can walk again after this beating I will be waiting for your sorry ass to try and come off as important again...

I will forward this thread to the right people, maybe you can learn like I have about the rules of engagement. Your are a liar that can not be trusted.

Ah, here we go again.

hahaa...... can we already start to count down to the next meltdown? :1orglaugh

It's not up to me to state which clients you fell short with. If they want it publicly known then they can step forward.

If you intend to try to get me banned with this lame shit then I will be more than happy to provide Lensman with a list of the people who have contacted me so far but they did so in confidence and I, unlike you, have enough integrity to not break that confidence.

I'm done with you for now. Board bullshit is over rated considering that I will be seeing you in person in San Diego....Pussy.

You can't.

You do not have a leg to stand on...

I would really like to know who they are maybe imaginary people of yours?
Cuz I do not take peoples money and not deliver a project.
I deliver on time (usually) and last month and this month everything has been done and delivered within perfect time frame of all my clients.


And I will be forwarding this to the right people.

Bet on it, you are full of shit.

Your really in some deep shit here AaronM...

What your doing is spreading false lies...

Confidence of what clients? LOL!
Every single one of my clients stand by me and pay on time for a production that makes them money. They wouldnt confide in a neanderthal worm like yourself.

no hate here -

but

did amp buy that home with his own earnings or is it co-owned by his girl?

cmon, buying a new truck isnt that impressive.

and partying like a rock star i wont comment on cause the statement is, well, just gay . :1orglaugh

http://nymalegigolos.com/teaser/lev.jpg

http://www.gl4l.com/images/birdy.gif

i would love to see some of alienq's work vs amps work on jasonandalex

see how they compare.

They don't compare.

Amp builds from the heart.

I build them so they make money.

I've seen several examples of both their work. They're both good.

Both have their own style.

I wouldn't say one is better than the other really, but of course everyone has their own personal tastes.

Both have done some damn excellent work, and I'm sure both will tell you when they're sober and being honest that they have both turned out less than exemplary work. Every designer lays a turd once in a while. :D

Maybe because you act like him on his worst days ?

So true.

But, I will add that AMP's work has more design balance for the eye :)