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jesus man, you just don't get how annoying that is, do you? i will make sure no one I know promotes anything that you ever fly in your sig moron |
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First off understand the differences between a standard affiliate today and the select number of real affiliates who do actually work. I have been an affiliate for a very long time and I do understand the work envolved, problem is very few "standard affiliate mindset" understand it. I will stick with what I said. A program can do it by themselves and generally equal out to the same figures. |
Tell her that after the shave it all evens out to 15% anyway. :)
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Yes the super large programs are pretty much built by affiliates. Then again most also have timing on their sides as well. Fact is most sites that are not part of a giant program or who have not been around for the last 5+ years and specially smaller sites just starting out can take another route. |
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Which model is it? Torri, Dakota, or Jayden?
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well if she ask the question, she dam sure won't understand your post. :1orglaugh Should just tell you WILL NOT send any traffic 2 her site, and if I knew which one was her site I wouldn't send any as of RAT now even if she paid me 75%, She's a moron. |
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Put it this way, one example happened many years back. I found an extreme niche fetish paysite that had zero affiliates. I struck a deal with the owner because I thought I could do well with promoting his stuff. That program, with ONE affiliate, increased it's membership by over 1/3 in a very short perdiod of time. I doubled his overall traffic back then and was paid whatever the standard affilliate payout was back then. If he had of added in 100 or 200 more affiliates, well... it ain't rocket science as to what would have happened. And that's just one small example. I'm sure many program owners could tell you exactly how much they value the signups that their affiliates send each month, and why. You're of course still entitled to think I'm wrong though. :D Quote:
But hey, if every single paysite owner were to lower payouts right across the board then I guess affiliates would either have to suck it up, or develop their own pay sites and start taking 100% of the profits. :D Most paysite owners I know don't seem all that hard done by for paying out what they do though, or offering other perks and incentives. I can think of several who live life pretty large the way things are, and they wouldn't be nearly so loaded without their hundreds or in some cases even thousands of affilates. |
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it's not a stupid question for somebody to ask who's not in this business - it's a very commission to pay on a sale. not sure what other business pays similar sales commissions - maybe none.
but as somebody else said earlier in the thread, that's a model to be worried about if she's already that suspicious - pay your models modeling fees. |
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ask torri if she would like to spend a night with me
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Just explain to her these very simple equations that I am sure any, well almost any, model can understand...
0+0=0 0-0=0 0/0=0 0x0=0 |
Bottom line is, nothing said here by anyone is going to change the fact that:
a) I can send my traffic to another program if yours doesn't want to pay the industry standard b) any paysite owner is free to not have an affiliate program and do it all on his or her own, and keep 100% of the profits. c) I forgot what c was... d) Saying that affiliates are needless is laughable to the programs whose affiliate base sends them 100's of signups per day (or more), they would sooner stab themselves in the face with a screwdriver than drop their affiliate program. e) there is no e. |
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very well said, and I agree on all counts but I still think that programs should work on internal promotion far more than they do now, so they can increase profits overall without having to payout as much, thus reaping more benefits |
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Non adult usually pays 10-15%
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but you are right, we all have our own opinions of how things should be run...and if someone is successful at what they are doing and living the high life, there is NO reason to change at all...if it works for you, then so be it :) |
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so really if sites arent out self promoting.. they are wasting a lot of time |
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"One of my models thinks...."
Are you positive on that? |
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Truth be known, I've done SEO work for more than a few paysites and paysite networks out there, which also shows that some are doing exactly what you're talking about. :D |
It's nice to be able to carry on a debate/discussion without having some cocknocker beaking off at you, isn't it?
I wish this would happen more often here. Guys, it's been a pleasure. :D |
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Yes I know mainstream does it and mainstream is about 20 years behind the adult industry. |
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Would the almighty standard affiliates not go for something like this.
Per month: 0-2 sales 15% 2-4 sales 25% 5-7 sales 35% 8-9 sales 45% 10-20 sales 50% 21+ sales 60% I still would imagine that the "standard" affiliates would bitch. |
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see what happens when actual professionals debate, and not trolls and idiots? LOL i sit at my desk all day and eat (sometimes sleep) and breathe adult internet....which is more I can say for 90% of the people on this board I wish I was doing more music work, but for now adult is paying the checks...i don't want to be a starving artist...LOL |
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some programs do this already, but nothing this drastic but there are so many programs that will give you 65% off the bat, it would have to be an across the board thing |
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To many build themselves up and around affiliate traffic from the get go. It has been my main point all along. |
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I think it's cool that she's asking questions and taking an interest in "our" side of the business. Refer her to an affiliate program or two and help her get some traffic going to her ads.
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ROFLMAO YA! What he said! 15% wouldn't cover the bandwidth that content would burn. Add in the time to crop/download/design/promote and you are in the hole. Honestly, at 50% most affiliates are lucky to break even on the first couple sales. It's the recurring that makes it worth the effort, and single girl sites don't retain very well. |
depends on the site, some sites that have a lower percentage can still make an affiliate more then pne that has a higher one.
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Why not fire up a program and try out your theories? Like I've said twice in this thread now... YOU might offer a lower payout, but the next 20 programs over there are offering more... so where do you think affiliates are going to send thier hits? If you want affiliates to your program, you have to make it worth their while. It's not my fault that that's the way it is, that's just the way it is, period. It's called competition, and the pay sites who thrive on affiliates are all competing to get more of them in theirs rather than see them send their traffic to someone else's. some of you it seems fail to see that every part of this business is in balance with every other part, TGP's, link lists, gallery submitters, SE guys, designers, pay site owners, admins, content producers... we are all in this together. Some are into traffic flow, others are into marketing, others are into generating the very product that surfers are trying to get to..... it's symbiotic really. Can someone go it alone without affiliates? yes. Should everyone? No. And I'm just not comfortable with the kinds of comments that basically say affiliates are needless or are overpaid etc, because I'll tell you right now, any program owner that says that about his affiliates will get zero hits of my hard-earned traffic. That's a promise. |
depends on the site, I retain about half my members for 3 - 4 months or more and have about a hundred that have been recurring since 1997
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Thanks to the dumb bitch, we have a good business thread on GFY.
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