You people need to calm down. I stand behind ALL of my posts, even before they are edited. You guys just need to stop reposting the info until we get the official word. Just be fucking happy, and quit crying.

My memory is not dead on about this issue either but as I recall...He promised her 2k but only paid her $1,200 so if my memory stands correct, he still owes her $800.

$800 Mia
$400 Bailey

Plus, I had to run him down to get the $200 finders fee he promised an associate of mine a year or two ago....And he bitched about paying it even though he shot the girl multiple times and even brought her to LA.

I wonder if he owes any of the "big players" money as well. :glugglug

The DOJ did not propose these new laws to make your life easier. FSC will not get a TRO and the laws will go into effect at midnight. Make sure you are compliant. Don't believe these stupid rumors, don't put your life on the line because of "something someone said on GFY".

If you guys spent as much time complying as you spend trying NOT to comply, you would have been done a month ago.

word 678

read this and check back @ 1:30 tommorrow
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9236

1/2 truths is the operative word

Apparently I wish I would have been more skeptical of this post before it was editied. It looks as though that this wasn't a set in stone thing and now appears to be someone's opinion and not fact... damn and i got all exicted for nothing. oh well leason learned ... wait to see it in print before you believe it.

Does POV Porn Guy still shoot for you?

Ok well that makes more sense. Keep us posted :winkwink:

Exactly, get the point?

page 3 sig spot!

Going bold cause it needs to be seen.
If you doubting Lensman in this thread you are going a looooooong way in showing your relationship with your attny. Some people with really informed attny's received a phone call prior to this post and were aware of the "prediction" that Lensman made.

don't hate on Lensman , call your attny and find out why you didn't get a call.

Lots of editing going on :)

Court docs from yesterday

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...35#post7619935

Nice little mini-drama developing inside this thread. Why is Roy silent?

For the record.

I never doubted lensman or his prediction. What I doubt is that the FSC is going to sit and watch other people get prosecuted so they have just that much more mounted against them in front of a judge.

You know... in case you haven't been paying attention, this is pretty big/important news. Maybe you and Aaron can take your potential drama to a new thread? Actually I urge you to, it will make for more interesting reading anyway.

Now you heard it from someone else. http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9236

Just remember I said it first babay.

Listen it's real simple, It is LEGAL talk.

If there was an agreement made between the FSC and the US Govt. it is just that and agreement between the FSC and the GOVT. Are you a part of the FSC? if not you are technically NOT part of the agreement. Will they come after you??? who f'n knows. And no one with an ounce of sense will tell you otherwise. Things have to be worded properly to NOT make people liable.

As far as the FSC goes. You don't want to be a member? that is your choice. But people in this industry didn't have the "predicted" TRO without the FSC. Did anyone else file for an injunction on their own?? who was it??

And if your the type of business person who has been on the tit of the adult industry and feel the freebies offered by programs are something your entitled to, your not going to be around long enough to matter.

The FSC membership structure is VERY fair 50 bucks a YEAR for the individual webmaster. That gets you about 20 minutes with a decent lawyer.
Strength in Numbers it is really that simple.

no it's the other "Mof" at Homegrown.

I mean yes, it is

http://spannow.adult.com/povporn.jpg

Tell me, what makes for a better laugh....

Chapter 7 or Chapter 13

:321GFY

Thanks to Lens for the information, though linking the stay of investigations to "FSC members" only is irresponsible.

I know we want as many people as possible to join the coalition, totally agree with that, but being misleading and using scare tactics is not the way to do it. Preying on the small time webmaster's fears by saying that only FSC members will benefit from this particular litigation attempt is not only 100% dead wrong, but also as manipulative as the very forces the FSC are up against.

When Ashcroft, or Gonzales, or Bush, or anyone, used these sorts of tactics and blanket statements to induce a fear-related response from the populace, dozens of GFY threads popped up calling them out.

Don't stoop to their level.

I'm an FSC member, not as big time as I'd like to be, but still someone in it for the long haul, and I'm disappointed that both FSC personel, and you yourself Lens, are lowering yourselves to a near-propaganda level in order to drive memberships. :(

Remember Mark N from San Diego? That's me dude - how you been!!! :)

LENS:

ok so let me play dumb for a moment lol

If this is 100% legit news why such a dramatic title and post change? and why all the edits?

If it was me I would be the first to be saying "See I was right look here" and get my glory. That at least is what has me baffeled about this thread, is it true or is it not??

-Loki-

MAKO, keep in mind the deal was struck between the FSC and the DOJ. I think the words are being chosen very carefully. Not as a scare tatic but for legal reasons. we'll see it all play out.

Let's hope so, I'd like that to be the case rather than some of the previous statements over the past months that official FSC spokespeople have gone on record saying regarding protection in "any" legal event "only" covering members.

Lens isn't guilty of that, I'm referring to FSC reps who started the PR campaign using mis-truths originally. Lens is simply unknowingly trying to help FSC, but doing it in a misguided way by perpetuating the statements already made.

Thanks for that link but it does not answer my question, right now (as of like under 5 mins of this thread being posted) something like that is everywhere lol

No dissrespect to Xbiz or any others but I use the word "Official" and last I knew the court case was to be at 1:30pm now as boards tell it it's an announcement at 1:30pm

I pray that this is all correct, As I have said the whole time this can't stick, it won't stick, it violates too many grandfathered laws put forth by the SC but it's gonna be a storm before it is over.

-Loki-

they are not outside of the law, they, as a group , can file for injunction.

Actually.....My presence in this thread was requested by 2 other people who are not at liberty to discuss any specifics.....And Donovan is not one of them.

...and there you have it.

150 predictions


take that WOJ :pimp

fuck i always miss this shit

I can't believe how easy it is go get you people to believe this bullshit. 2257 is nothing and never will be.

http://www.javes.com

Nice marketing Lens :boid

Damn, I like this thread better before Lensman edited it...

:(

This should start a shit storm...but Lensman, whether you turn out to be right or wrong, this thread is by far one of the most irresponsible actions I have witnessed by a 'leader' of the industry.

Unless you have the gov't in your back pocket..and you don't...to claim that you could possibly have any inside knowledge is...well I said it before...irresponsible.

And to those of you who have changed your game plan regarding 2257 due to this thread...remember, lensman owns Adult.com and it's matrix of sites. This would make him as strong of a target as any one of you for the new regs. So, chances are pretty slim that the Dept of Justice is giving anyone, including Lensman a sneak peek at things to come.

Mark N?

A little hazy but after a chat with my bro it is all coming back to me!

(that is a first)

OK I joined FSC this morning via fax. I think $300 speaks louder than a string of exclamation marks. Good work!

Agreed. Eloquently stated.

I would just add that is the type of thing any attorney would tell you can actually harm a case. Lensmen should know better and put those values of the case higher than the material and selfish interests of "look what I know".

imo

any confirmation on this?

I can breath again..