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Alky 07-13-2005 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
I have nothing against choker because I was a customer of his since he first came out...But I would NOT send bought traffic to ANY revshare program unless I own it...ESPECIALLY one with low dollar trials.

So YES...that's what I just said.

you must have a fantasy about choker because no where in this thread did i say the traffic was from him.

beemk 07-13-2005 05:05 PM

damn bvf, why didnt you just post some stats for the guy to get him to try you out?

and alky, isnt it easier to just send some traffic and test it out instead of waiting around on this thread? you could have had several links up for the amount of time you spent on the thread.

BVF 07-13-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk
damn bvf, why didnt you just post some stats for the guy to get him to try you out?

and alky, isnt it easier to just send some traffic and test it out instead of waiting around on this thread? you could have had several links up for the amount of time you spent on the thread.

I don't HAVE any stats to post...ccbill doesn't track my clicks and I don't use a script to track them so that only thing posting stats would do is show how much money I make...And alky never planned on signing up. This is why this thread continues without him doing anything or revealing anything...This was just a lame attempt at a piss match.

And Alky...since you say that you never mentioned choker, who are you buying the traffic from? Tell me that and I'll tell you if it's worth sending to me. But how much you wanna bet you won't tell me?

RedShoe 07-13-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by corvette
i can vouch for leon (bvf), imo he is a smart, reasonable, stand up guy that runs a good program...we had a chance to hang out in fl a few years ago

Ditto.

Smart mutha fucka, and aside from me, he's one of the funniest guys I know.

For tax reasons I REFUSE to disclose any of my earnings. However, BVF does good for me, I do maybe 10 or so signups per month. But I DO NOT push him. I just have a few FHG's up on a shitty traffic TGP and I still manage to make signups with him. I only have a small ebony TGP and I have some FHG's from other companies as well. Some do better than others. some just SUCK ASS.

Ask CCbill to confirm if you want, but I do about 1:400 with BVF on shitty TGP traffic. I guarantee that if you refine that traffic you'll do well.

I would refine it as well, but I make more $$ editing video for every other webmaster out there then I do as a TGP operator. I just don't have time for it anymore.

I can honestly say I haven't touched my TGP in about a month and I still make signups with BVF.

All that said.. you still need to decide for yourself if you want to push him or not. Those of us that use him know that he IS the only guy selling what he sells. And he sells it well. This is a business just like any other, each of us operates differently, and each of us does better than others. I suck with ARS, and TopBucks, and some guys do really well. I do well with BootyILike.com and BVF, and a few others.

To each his own.

Good luck to you if you do try him out. I guarantee you it'll take more than just a day of shitty traffic though. Trust me I know all about shitty traffic. It takes more patience, but in the long run it pays off.

Alky 07-13-2005 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
And Alky...since you say that you never mentioned choker, who are you buying the traffic from? Tell me that and I'll tell you if it's worth sending to me. But how much you wanna bet you won't tell me?

of course i am not going to tell you... only way you would find out is if i saw something that showed how well your site actually sells, and you saw the refer logs.


but i suppose you are right... all my traffic is bought crap TGP traffic.

Platinum Lantern 07-13-2005 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF
since you don't feel that your question has been answered, don't promote BVF.

BVF I've really got to tip my hat to you
I know that you put time into your site and into making it the best it can be and reaching your audience and giving them what they want.

that right there is a FULL TIME JOB in itself.

But then add on the fact that you might have to hold somebody's hand (or jump thru a flaming hoop) to get them to send some traffic and make some money

thats extra stress

Looking at this thread I see why some programs are invite only

pr0 07-13-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedShoe
"he's one of the funniest guys I know"

he's also a raging racist who refers to me and others as "cracka" and "redneck" & several other racially derogatory terms

so next time you have a conversation with the man, know he's an admitted racist

BVF 07-13-2005 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
he's also a raging racist who refers to me and others as "cracka" and "redneck" & several other racially derogatory words

so next time you have a conversation with the man, know he's an admitted racist

Hey redneck cracka, don't you have some medical bills to beg to be paid? :1orglaugh And the only other racially derogatory word you might see me type is honkey....Oh, and there's peckerwood...I'm gonna start using that one.

Alky 07-13-2005 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern
But then add on the fact that you might have to hold somebody's hand (or jump thru a flaming hoop) to get them to send some traffic and make some money

thats extra stress

Looking at this thread I see why some programs are invite only

lol asking for some numbers is asking for a lot I know... Some of my sponsors I hit them up and they have new creatives made for me in a day.

all this is called trying to bring new affiliates in, and keeping current affiliates happy.

i wasn't asking to receive water from a rock here.

Alky 07-13-2005 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Hey redneck cracka, don't you have some medical bills to beg to be paid? :1orglaugh And the only other racially derogatory word you might see me type is honkey....Oh, and there's peckerwood...I'm gonna start using that one.

why use any at all?

pr0 07-13-2005 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Hey redneck cracka, don't you have some medical bills to beg to be paid? :1orglaugh And the only other racially derogatory word you might see me type is honkey....Oh, and there's peckerwood...I'm gonna start using that one.

Keep digging your own hole. :thumbsup

BVF 07-13-2005 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
Keep digging your own hole. :thumbsup

I'm telling you straight up pr0....FUCK YOU...And I'll tell you the same thing to your face. You're a sickly begging nobody.

DWB 07-13-2005 05:31 PM

Dude... if you have black or crack whore traffic, send it over to him. As far as I know he is the only one doing this with black women and he has been at it for a LONG time. You don't stay in business unless your making money. That's the bottom line.

There are riches in niches my friend. Don't let anyone tell you different.

pr0 07-13-2005 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
I'm telling you straight up pr0....FUCK YOU...And I'll tell you the same thing to your face. You're a sickly begging nobody.

Good deal man :thumbsup

RedShoe 07-13-2005 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
he's also a raging racist who refers to me and others as "cracka" and "redneck" & several other racially derogatory terms

so next time you have a conversation with the man, know he's an admitted racist

Racist words are just words. They have no meaning. It's the context in which they are used. If he calls me a cracka that's fine. Do I really think he hates white people? No. In fact I'd bet he has just as many white affiliates making him money as he does any other race.

I know he has white friends.

Being offended by racist names is just fueling racism. I get videos from black videographers where they say, "Give a shout out to Redshoe." And the girl does her thing, and then you hear, "See Redshoe, I'm lookin' out for ya dog. Even though you white, you still my nigga'"

So I've been called whitey, cracka, nigga... I hear it all. Does it bother me? No. Because I know it's just slang. Now if some 6'5" 280lb muscled up nigga named Buckshot from Watts calls me a cracka. Chances are he's not too worried about the context of the word cracka.

He can call me whitey, cracka, redneck, peckerwood... anything.

Actually the reason I don't care if he calls me those names is because I'm a wetback.

VIVE LA WETBACKS!!!

pr0 07-13-2005 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe
Racist words are just words. They have no meaning. It's the context in which they are used. If he calls me a cracka that's fine. Do I really think he hates white people? No. In fact I'd bet he has just as many white affiliates making him money as he does any other race.

I know he has white friends.

Being offended by racist names is just fueling racism. I get videos from black videographers where they say, "Give a shout out to Redshoe." And the girl does her thing, and then you hear, "See Redshoe, I'm lookin' out for ya dog. Even though you white, you still my nigga'"

So I've been called whitey, cracka, nigga... I hear it all. Does it bother me? No. Because I know it's just slang. Now if some 6'5" 280lb muscled up nigga named Buckshot from Watts calls me a cracka. Chances are he's not too worried about the context of the word cracka.

He can call me whitey, cracka, redneck, peckerwood... anything.

Actually the reason I don't care if he calls me those names is because I'm a wetback.

VIVE LA WETBACKS!!!

"Being offended by racist names is just fueling racism."

I agree....so why is the word hahahahahaha banned on gfy?

RedShoe 07-13-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
"Being offended by racist names is just fueling racism."

I agree....so why is the word hahahahahaha banned on gfy?

Because the people that run GFY are crazy. They think that by banning the "n-word" they are curbing racism.... I dunno. Same reason CUNT is banned I guess. The C-word isn't even that bad. I ask girls all the time if that word offends them and so far no whore has said that it offends them.

If you were the operators of this board and you could add ban words... would you?


I wonder if these are banned?
Child Pornography
John AshCroft
Alberto Gonzales
George Bush is a cocksucker
Kiddie Porn
Anal Rip
CUNT
******
WOP
GREASER
KIKE
SPICK
SPOOK
CRACKA
WHITEY
GOOK
CHINK

pr0 07-13-2005 07:36 PM

I really could care less...it's pretty clear BVF has about 2 supporters of his program. You, & the company that processes him.

I've got 30x more people who worship my goat as a relegion.

QuaWee 07-13-2005 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
I really could care less...it's pretty clear BVF has about 2 supporters of his program. You, & the company that processes him.

I've got 30x more people who worship my goat as a relegion.

Than why do you keep posting in this thread?

BV 07-13-2005 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
I don't HAVE any stats to post...ccbill doesn't track my clicks


really?
8

BVF 07-13-2005 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BV
really?
8

really. I know approximately how many hits I get and how many sales I get. I've never micromanaged my site. Just like I'm signed up with over 100 sponsors and all I do is put up the links and wait for the checks to come in. I don't waste much time with stats.

BV 07-13-2005 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
really. I know approximately how many hits I get and how many sales I get. I've never micromanaged my site. Just like I'm signed up with over 100 sponsors and all I do is put up the links and wait for the checks to come in. I don't waste much time with stats.


log in to your ccbill admin and look around, there are click thru stats for all your affiliates.

you can also easily set up tracker codes for your own traffic so you can track shit for certain campaigns etc etc....

pr0 07-18-2005 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV
log in to your ccbill admin and look around, there are click thru stats for all your affiliates.

you can also easily set up tracker codes for your own traffic so you can track shit for certain campaigns etc etc....

4 days later & the man with the howard university education hasn't figured out ccbill stats

ok let's find one person on the board willing to show that they've done 5 sales in a day with BVF

The Ghost 07-18-2005 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Hey redneck cracka, don't you have some medical bills to beg to be paid? :1orglaugh And the only other racially derogatory word you might see me type is honkey....Oh, and there's peckerwood...I'm gonna start using that one.

Is peckerwood really a racist term? I didn't know that. What makes it racist?

pr0 07-18-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Pro Sales
Is peckerwood really a racist term? I didn't know that. What makes it racist?

must be a black thing?

BVF 07-18-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
4 days later & the man with the howard university education hasn't figured out ccbill stats

ok let's find one person on the board willing to show that they've done 5 sales in a day with BVF

Four days earlier in this same thread where you said that you didn't care, you said this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
I really could care less...it's pretty clear BVF has about 2 supporters of his program. You, & the company that processes him.

I've got 30x more people who worship my goat as a relegion.

Then with the racism, in the answer to the dude who asks if 'peckerwood' is racist, you say this in this SAME thread we're in now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
must be a black thing?

He doesn't know how 'peckerwood' is racist but yet he posts earlier in this thread crying about how I call him a 'redneck'...He gets offended by redneck but can't understand peckerwood?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
he's also a raging racist who refers to me and others as "cracka" and "redneck" & several other racially derogatory terms

so next time you have a conversation with the man, know he's an admitted racist

dude...why do YOU CARE who does five sales a day with me? Seriously? I'm a small boutique one man black amateur operation...I'm not lightspeed....I get paid a good living to do what I enjoy and that's being a pervert...I was sending sales to my own site LONG before I got any affiliates at all. I ENJOY what I do. If you want to compare any of your sites with mine, go check alexa or metricsmarket. I have nothing to prove to a broke redneck...The private school my daughter will be going to next year is proof enough to me.

Don't you have a machine to hook your sickly kidneys up to? Don't you have some medical bills to pay for? Don't you need to go to the doctor to treat your fucked up knee? ....Why don't you go beg Jerry Lewis to take your old ass on as one of Jerry's Kids. :1orglaugh

Keep posting in this thread and trying to act like "You Don't Care" :1orglaugh

SleazyDream 07-18-2005 04:01 PM

not all surfers want a 'slick' site -- i actually think MORE are interested in sites with an amateur like feel.

don't judge a site by it's appearance - judge it by bottom line what it can make for you by testing.

I've heard a lot of reputable people use Black vagina finder and make good money from it. havnt' heard any reputable complaints thus far so i give the program a thumbs up.

pr0 07-18-2005 04:30 PM

BVF i'll leave it at this.

You know what my problem with you is? You make money off crackwhores, street walkers & other chemically dependent/mentally ill prostitutes.

And they are CLEARLY crack whores, not like the class reality sites out there that are "entertainment". You bring actual crackwhores into your home.

Now to add to that.....You offer sexual advice to underage girls & brag about it on a major industry board. This is where you will find the first instance of me launching a personal attack on you. So as much as you'd like to think i'm fucking with you because im a racist....it's more because you are a mentally sick & depraved individual.

You are the worst example of a pornographer on this board & give everyone in the biz a bad name.

And keep on talking about my medical issues....Karma will catch up with you Judo boy.

ricks 07-18-2005 04:37 PM

His site looks pretty weak, I wouldnt waste my time with it. I also wouldnt trust him to get paid based on what people have told me about him.

BVF 07-18-2005 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
BVF i'll leave it at this.

You know what my problem with you is? You make money off crackwhores, street walkers & other chemically dependent/mentally ill prostitutes.

And they are CLEARLY crack whores, not like the class reality sites out there that are "entertainment". You bring actual crackwhores into your home.

Now to add to that.....You offer sexual advice to underage girls & brag about it on a major industry board. This is where you will find the first instance of me launching a personal attack on you. So as much as you'd like to think i'm fucking with you because im a racist....it's more because you are a mentally sick & depraved individual.

You are the worst example of a pornographer on this board & give everyone in the biz a bad name.

And keep on talking about my medical issues....Karma will catch up with you Judo boy.


Yawn and Yawn....Fuck you Jerry's Kid.

BVF 07-18-2005 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
His site looks pretty weak, I wouldnt waste my time with it. I also wouldnt trust him to get paid based on what people have told me about him.

And You are?.....Wow I'm that popular where even the noobs talk about me. :1orglaugh

ricks 07-18-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF
And You are?.....Wow I'm that popular where even the noobs talk about me. :1orglaugh

Ya, I'm a real 'noob', I make more in a week than you make in a year idiot... :1orglaugh

I just heard you were a fucking clown thats all, nothing different than what most others in this thread think of you. :321GFY

BVF 07-18-2005 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
His site looks pretty weak, I wouldnt waste my time with it. I also wouldnt trust him to get paid based on what people have told me about him.

Wait a minute I just read this....My site is run by ccbill and they send out the checks...Now WHO has been telling you that they aren't getting paid?

hmmmm

BVF 07-18-2005 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
Ya, I'm a real 'noob', I make more in a week than you make in a year idiot... :1orglaugh

I just heard you were a fucking clown thats all, nothing different than what most others in this thread think of you. :321GFY

You do that with that site in your sig? :1orglaugh http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=379...hare.co m/&u=

That isn't what you originally said...you said that you would trust to get PAID based on what you heard...idiot.

ricks 07-18-2005 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Wait a minute I just read this....My site is run by ccbill and they send out the checks...Now WHO has been telling you that they aren't getting paid?

hmmmm

I stand corrected if that is the case, how many sales a day do you do anyhow player?

BVF 07-18-2005 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
I stand corrected if that is the case, how many sales a day do you do anyhow player?

what's it to YOU? You're some nobody newb with a shit casino site with no traffic.

ricks 07-18-2005 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
You do that with that site in your sig? :1orglaugh http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=379...hare.co m/&u=

That isn't what you originally said...you said that you would trust to get PAID based on what you heard...idiot.

That is a new project of mine, if you knew anything about the online casino you would know that you wont see enough money in your lifetime to even open one. :1orglaugh

BVF 07-18-2005 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
That is a new project of mine, if you knew anything about the online casino you would know that you wont see enough money in your lifetime to even open one. :1orglaugh

even if this is true......SO WHAT? Once again I'm happy that I get paid AT ALL to do what I love.

Now crownvegas.com is another matter...it's SHIT.

ricks 07-18-2005 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
what's it to YOU? You're some nobody newb with a shit casino site with no traffic.

I guess not having 7000 posts about nonsense makes me a 'newb', I come here for mainly business purposes, buying email lists and what not... what exactly do you do here other than talk shit about people that can buy and sell your sorry black ass many times over? :1orglaugh

ricks 07-18-2005 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

Now crownvegas.com is another matter...it's SHIT.


Look closely you dumb monkey, its not a porn site, what are you expecting? :1orglaugh


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