500..........

5000ityk

We are very excited about the Porn Poker Tour and whether you agree or not with the pricing, it is what it is and it is the biggest show of the mid-year. We are sponsoring in a big way and are looking forward to doing some good business and showing everyone a great time.

Mitch

p.s. Aly is an amazing person and is doing an excellent job, as always.

Good Event. And at 300.00 a pop for talent. It'll be just like a real poker room.
800 cocks 5 chicks.

3pcd :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Have fun :thumbsup

I also wonder about all these "playahs" that can't fork up $300 to bring their girl with them...

wow.

Alex

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

playas aint bitchin about bringing one girl.

i also wonder about haters too...

are you in the game?
are you going to internext?
have you been to any tradeshows?
would you like or do you think its REASONABLE to pay a thousand bucks for badges so 3 female reps can walk the floor for you?

just because a playa has money doesnt mean he should spend it foolishly ...

:pimp

I respectfully disagree. I think Aly answered directly, professionally, and with consideration to both sides of the issue.

It is not easy to be in her position nor is it easy to deal with dissatisfied clients.

ALY IS MY HERO!!!!!!!!!

theres an old adage:

don't shoot the messenger. aly is that messenger and therefore consequently immune from all harrassment and insolitude.

she is the icon of withstanding.

ALY FOR PRESIDENT!

end of thread.

point made.

king roger lives for eternity.

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night night.

...... :disgust

I really do not see so much diplomacy here...

Nothing was negotiated.

This is a very long thread. See ya all in Miami come hang out at our Cabana by the pool :) I got lots of girlie t-s to give away to all the talent LOL

Ok this is how it works.

Time to make new badges for models: 6 hours
Invest = few hundreds dollars.

Time to make a new thread for the good news: 7 mins
Invest = free.

Time for AVN to decide it = 6 months.

Sometimes people want to turn easy resolution into complicated stuff.

I agree with you , the response the show is only 3 weeks away so there is nothing we can do is kind of weak. Also the show is sold out so Avn isnt going to pay attention. Now if it wasnt sold out then I think you would have their attention. Also big fish did you just wake up from your slumber to realize the deal its been like that for how many months.After they have everyones money at that point your bargaining power is weak.Also they know no matter how much everyone bitches you will all be at everyshow they have. People in this industry have a need to be seen and internext feeds that need. Like in reality Ron what is there for your salesman to sell ? Most in the biz already have ccbill is their primary or their secondary. Its not like there are 25 billing companies out there fighting for the biz.Its not like one of your sales people is going to go up to one of the big fish fish and go hi Im from CCbill and the big fish would say ccbill whats that?

This thread is non-stop. Poker will be good for sure.

Son, I have been doing this for long before you were even allowed to drink or look at dirty pictures. I have seen the playahs come and go.

If having the girls haning around makes you money, then the $300 is worth it. If they aren't making you any money, they are just there to make you look good, then how good do you want to look?

I understand the need for eye candy at a show, but I can't figure out a player who can afford to pay a flight, a hotel, and to feed all these girls for 4 or 5 days, but $300 per girl is gonna break the deal. Seems to me that isn't the big expense of the trip, now is it?

Let me clarify something I'm paying for 4 girls to make me look good like I Always do. but I have alot of girlfriends who live in Miami and I don't think paying $300 for them to hang at the pool is fair. Plain and simple

Aly and I go way back and I've also seen Playa's come and go over the past 9 years whats your point? trying to punk me??

You talk big for a playa

Folks with cash did not get alot of cash by spending it without regard and thought.

Even penny's count.

Aly!!!

Now what is it with this chocolate fountain that you speak? Where is it, when was it? Did I miss it? I want my very own chocolate fountain in my condo LOL!!

Of all the posts on this thread, this one made me spit milk out of my nose. :1orglaugh

ROFL Police Academy rocked!

I dont think You're condescending remarks to webmasters is helping AVN at all, in fact you are making the situation a lot worse for them.

There are so many variables to this, Women make up most of the porn industry, you keep going on about the $300 ticket thing but what you fail to realise is that new talent will now be detered from attending this and any other AVN show due to the costs involved, bascially if the girls are not staying at the hotel or paying $300 they cannot get in to meet webmasters in order to develop there online career.

The way I see it AVN should be flying the girls out to these events in light of the importance of having them there, I know this is not going to happen but waving the girls ticket fees is the least they can do :2 cents:

Warren, we are not attending the show as well. In addition, thanks to some groping idiots at the show in San Diego, we will now have security with us in the future.

i love guys like you who dont answer direct questions but instead talk shit and thats exactly what you are, full of shit.

I hear you Sheri and I am really sorry to hear about that, I have never seen it happen (the groping) but I have heard all the horror stories. We will have hook up soon say hello to Easton.

who's your daddy

Kudos to AVN for allowing some sponsors to get a break on badge pricing :thumbsup

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh any word on what the final result is going to be, does the talent get in during the day or not. need to know bringing models

Yes for $300

This time around, no, but I strongly encourage you to ask around and see if any exhibitors or sponsors have any additonal lower-priced badges left; all exhibitors have access to a certain number of cheaper badges for staff and talent. I've come up with a number of more aggressive options to address this for next year but I will have to make it a little more equitable than 'Talent' passes that are only provided for good-looking women with D-cups as such things are rather subjective. ;)

Ideas and feedback are appreciated: [email protected]

Aly you know I love ya sorry for the headache I caused.. you know I mean well :)

I really do know you mean well...! And I really do think you're right! :upsidedow

Incase anyone posts in the near future, I'm off to bed! Goodnight! :thumbsup

Good Night Aly
Goodnight AVN
Goodnight Florida Tradeshows in August

nice marketing technique...forcing people to come to your parties....

no one said anything about not allowing sponsors to throw parties...

Sorry for bumping this thread, but I was away and missed it :)

I think this is all a bunch of crap! Unless I have missed something, I do not think that is fair to "talent". I run AdultxModels.com and have, in the past, brought many many models to the shows for them to get work while people are in town for the show and also if they are new to introduce them around for future work.

The local So. Fla models rely on these shows to get work and meet people, there are a lot of producers who like to shoot local talent while in town so they do not have to fly them out and pay all their expenses.

I think is is bull that a model would have to pay $300 to try and get work! In the past I have brought many girls to the shows for work, now they are being told that they have to pay $300, I am sure that will be worth it for a $500 shoot!!

And Aly, you said there is no way to justify lowering the price or any other solution 3 weeks before the show??? I remember another thread about this months ago where everyone stated the same opinions, how come a solution could not be made then, why did you all wait until 3 weeks before the show??

Just my :2 cents:

Thanks for the feedback.

As a result of the previous discussions around this sort of thing, a solution was implemented. The solution was to allow badge holders to bring non-registered people into the event with a wristband in the evening. I also want to clarify again that exhibitors and cabana sponsors can get additional badges for talent at reduced rates.

Thanks.

Aly i am not trying to give you a hard time, but this still does not help the talent down here. Producers are not goign to try and book talent and then have to worry about buying them a badge for them. Plus most of the talent i have brought in the past get a lot of bookings by just being introduced to the producers and then they will set something up while they are here.

So in an industry that needs talent to survive, we are saying fuck you to them? So AVN is just as bad as the people trying to introduce the 25% tax on Adult Sites?

I am really disappointed in AVN's outcome of this situation!!

Buy yourself a pass, and then bring portfolios of your girls to show the producers????

Also I would suggest taking the girls to ALL the great offsite parties and having industry people see them there.

I mean not to sound like an old man or a ballbuster, but seriously what about the people that want to do business that do not need or want all the models running around distracting them or the people they need to meet with? Is this not what the parties are for? let the show floor and the daytime meetings be just that business, ( just like in Mainstream) then at night what the hell man let it rip..... :2 cents:

I agree, and i always get them to the parties, but what i am talking about is usually we have tons of bookings through our site before the shows, alot of girls get booked for shoots everyday, but this year ALOT of producers have been in contact with me and are not hiring the models because of these badge fees. I will be doing what i can, but i just see it as a huge loss for alot of models just looking for work while everyone is in town. I do not make any money off the models, i am not an agency, but i do try and get them everywhere i can.

EDIT: = Plus alot of producers like to see the models in person at these shows before they hire them for shoots.

One more thing!

A lot of models will not travel to a shoot by themselves, they are going to bring someone with them for safety (unless they know the producer). I go to almost all the shoots with our local models or they have someone with them. There is no way a model is going to pay another $300 to have an escourt with them to feel safe.

:2 cents:

I'm ready http://www.pornopushers.com/internext/2005/

Thats ok on the show floor but I'm not rubbing lotion on your back at the pool. Period! fuck the biz then. I'm selling porn...and hot girls
Personally I think its a time to bond then you talk biz and close the deal when your in the office :2 cents:

So do models have to pay for passes this show or will it be a sausage fest

i was about to rip a klik revenue sigwhore's ass for bumping old threads just now.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

whats up this weekend roger? hard rock? texas holdem? :winkwink:

Not sure yet maybe Round up

Nothing to add except see you all in Vegas.

i wouldn't be there... :( too bad... :(

This is beautiful! How many models you bringin' Roger? Have to get more pics :1orglaugh