The 3 greatest words of advice in business, EVER!

[QUOTE=RogerV]I remember a pretty little blonde from Cancun (will not say her name here) that did not mind sharing you:)

Yes I can not wait till the boys all get back together in FL.


Ron C

Take Note AVN the Adult ONLINE Industry Leaders are WATCHING

Ron C

most of us are already taking the risk and investing our trust into AVN to pull this off. there won't be a next year if this year isn't worth the extra$$

think ibill

This thread snuck up on me, so I haven't read it. But the funny thing is that for the AVN Awards Show, we found out last time that they issue FREE talent passes for active female talent. And others have to pay. Wish we new that in year's past, because I was not letting some of our staff go so we could have some eye candy in our limited amount of spots.

I AM RIGHT
and you know what it makews me feel really good inside when after mos of barking and yelling the BIG DOGS have spoken...
I love when Ron C , Lensman, or Tony Morgan talk-

It's starting to give me more credibility
and only ascertains what I already have stated-

AVN DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANY OF YOU.
PERIOD.

If they did they would POST ON THIS BOARD-
and not have ALY in the direct line of fire everyday and night

Two things will come of this I guarantee-
Either ALy will finally realize she has virtually NO SAY in anything that goes down there and quit-
Or chicks will allowed on the premises for next to nothing-

I can't wait to see how this shakes out

AVN The REAL PLAYERS HAVE SPOKEN

and guess what?

THESE GUYS ARE YOUR BIGGEST ADVERTISERS.

AVN YOU ARE A BUNCH OF STUPID BUSINESSMEN

The internet is slowly pulling away from you-
YOU NO LONGER HAVE ANY PULL WITH WEB PEOPLE

You also have another MONTH of being FRIED On this board-


PS on a good note-

Howmany passes did you get to the Players Ball Ron?
And how much was your sponsorship?

And howmany girls of yours didn't get in??
:-)

Yes they are.

The Players Ball shares the same mentality as RonC. Girls make the event over the top. If Ron has a bunch of women that need to go, and he's also a sponsor, the answer to Ron is "how many will you need".

Our price per Players Ball pass based on the sponsorship packages and passes included work out to be $300 a pass. I have NO PROBLEM giving women that are "eye candy" free passes to make our sponsors happy.

Once you have a sausage fest, people talk shit and your event can go down hill from there, and I've always recognized that.

:pimp

Duly noted, Ron. Thanks.

See how happy Lens looks with a hot girl around makes networking so much more fun.
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...aya/z07366.htm

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...aya/z07357.htm

450........

I'd like to be the first person to PUBLICLY TELL AVN
To give Aly a raise
No one should have to endure this kind of punishment without being PAID.

Also if I may add-

FUCK AVN

Howmany passes did you get to the Players Ball Ron?
And how much was your sponsorship?

And howmany girls of yours didn't get in??
:-)[/QUOTE]


D-Money and KB have always taken care of me and my Entrouge. For this I bow my head to the true PLAYERS.


Ron C

See how happy Lens looks with a hot girl around makes networking so much more fun.
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curr...baya/z07366.htm

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curr...baya/z07357.htm

D-Money and KB have always taken care of me and my Entrouge. For this I bow my head to the true PLAYERS.


Ron C[/QUOTE]

Shit, I just want to be a fraction of the player you are dogg. For real!

D-Money and KB have always taken care of me and my Entrouge. For this I bow my head to the true PLAYERS.


Ron C[/QUOTE]


AND WE ALWAYS FUCKING WILL!

CC BILL IS THE BOMB
and THEY DESERVE TO BE TREATEN WITH RESPECT

I knew Ron Cadwell when he was....
hahaha I can't say broke- so I'll say not AS rich
:-))

Ron and Craig Tant were the first two people I met at my first tradeshow in Orlando- They had a little booth next to our Miniscule little booth-

And you know what AVN?
CC BILL HAS BLOWN UP
and they HAD A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND WITH YOU-

Maybe they still will, maybe they won't

now is that in a good sexually excitable lovemaking kind of way or in that bad take someone unsuspecting from behind in the prision shower kind of way?

Thank god the other one's were nuked!

For those of you who just skipped to the end of this thread, read this post.

Kb I hate you for telling me about this thread. I just read the whole dam thing..

Roger and Ron posts

Look at you and your mad thread Rog!!

I also think that CCBill should also take over more shows. The AZ show is my favorite!!

Mad Views

Thats not true the NAB the biggest video trade show in the US charges its attendees nothing , the sponsors pay for the show. Besides a show floor it includes more classes then you could want.

the blanket reply like calling an automated customer service line eh? :1orglaugh :winkwink:

it would give you even more credibility if you wouldn't always brag about it :2 cents:

but who am i ... - you know what i mean :upsidedow

It's about making the show alot of fun for networking I didn't expect it to blow the fuck up..

Just don't get the way they are thinking we don't need them like the video side does/ we have shows like twice a month now. I always supported AVN I just don't understand why they won't bend on this.

next yr? try vegas in 6 months.

BUT THAT IS MY STYLE!!

Holla
Off to party at a NON AVN event-
Blatt Bros are throwing a hell of a mixer tonight
in LA

WOO HOO!

Well it wouldn't have blown up if you didn't have a point and others didn't share the same thoughts and opinions or views. I have given up trying to understand it because you just go around in circles. All I have to say is that, this event better be worth it as it seems to me that a lot more is at stake here than just the loss of a few people that don't want to pay $300 to get in. It looks to me like we are talking maybe sponsorships for future events and even advertising revenues. It's a pity, hopefully someone is listening/reading and actually is "getting it." (Outside of Aly of course as she can only do so much)

LOL KB, you posting from your bro's 'puter again? Referring to post above mine ;)

I kinda feel bad wasn't trying to stir shit but oh well If they don't bend they lost my advertising dollars and respect :2 cents: I still have Xbiz, Klixxx,GFy and many other sources

Roger V

Maybe KB is right and AVN just does not care. I find that very hard to believe that when something is brought to your attention you don't listen to what your customerswant. I know that we do it all the time. I guess I should be happy it will only make the Phoenix Forum a stronger show if this show tanks. Sad

I am also really reconsidering whether we do a booth in January. It is not like nobody has not heard of CCbill. :( Hell there went there 30k in revenue right there

Ron C

Damn, big step there Roger, way to set the pace Man, re%.

Ron, never met you, but re% to you as well for saying all that that publicly.

Agreed Sherie!! As both an attendee and a sponsor, this years Phoenix Forum was very profitable and a hell of a lot of fun! :thumbsup

CC Who? ...and you are? ... and I would know you from??? :winkwink:

Ron, first and foremost if you really don't see a value in exhibiting in January I agree you shouldn't do so.

The assertion, however, that 'AVN just does not care'... based on the fact that Internext is unlikely to change it's pricing structure and refund money 3 weeks prior to the event, in order for female attendance to increase, seems very unfair.

I agree whole-heartedly that crowds of beautiful women (and men) will improve the overall atmosphere of the show, as does anybody in this office. The evening guest passes were implemented to help in that area, and the SilverCash Bikini contest should do so as well.

It would be excellent to come up with a great way of doing this next time around and I don't doubt they will, but that's how these things work Ron, and you know that. All those brilliant ideas/ feedback can be assessed, worked out and implemented for next time. I don't recall seeing a chocolate fountain at previous Phoenix Forums, or a cash-registerless 7Eleven for that matter... they're brilliant ideas that grew out of experience and change.

There may be many faults to find with AVN, and I want to hear them, but I want to hear them in order to implement positive change. I want to hear them because I see a value to the industry in making these products better. I encourage you to let time take it's course, to encourage positive change yourself, and to focus on how we can realistically make things better.

I appreciate any and all feedback you have. Thanks.

OMG!!!! YOU JUST REMINDED ME!!

RON! Thanks for the MUNCHIES SHACKS at PHOENIX FORUM!!!!!!

That was the most ingenious thing i have ever seen done for people at a show!

I meant to tell you when we were talking about your new boat at Cybernet, but I forgot. Then I meant to tell you again at our party at Martini Ranch, but you know how that goes. Glad to see you got taken care of there.

Anyhow, MUNCHIES SHACKS. MUNCHIES SHACKS FOLKS!

A big fat bow!!!!!
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Aly that's a lame attempt at controlling the issue as presented in this thread thus far. AVN dropped the ball and got a little to greedy this time, bottom line. And to not listen to top advertisers and sponsors was a bad move on AVN's part, and I think most here will agree.

roger, i think you have a dvd player coming your way.

edit - as a potential advertiser w/AVN, I got screwed hard a few weeks ago by your sales force. I promised myslef I would not speak out publicly about it, but in this case it's totally justified. AVN has little to no respect from me and my partners, many of whon are pretty big on the other side of your company. Expect to see no mney from us for a while, at least until honesty and opneness becomes a priority over there.