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Jace 07-13-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RonC
Now that is what I call a true Pre-Checked UPSALE.

that is some funny ass shit right there

RogerV 07-13-2005 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC
Looks like I will need to get a second black card to cover my AVN fees if we did that


Ron C

LMAO you totally cracked me up. We can't forget what business we are in..
people dream about being in this biz cause we have it made.
we need to increase the girl to guy ratio I'm running out of booth girls to hook up with and I've moved to the girls behind the scenes if you catch my drift.

Where the hell is Mike Price and Sweet T? We need help

BradShaw 07-13-2005 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K
spoken like a true nightclub promoter. thats the name of the game. i do nightclub shows with artists that cost me 50-100k sometimes, you have to show the women love or they will not go. you get the money back on the bar and the back end. 10k in free badges could cost you 30-40k in bar sales alone over a 4 day period if theres no ass to entertain people.

straight up. sometimes my guestlist is 500 free girls and 1500 paid people at 20 bucks. thats just how it works. let em in or suffer the consequences long term. this is mentality thing not an avn thing. psychology. i would never stay anywhere longer than 20 minutes without the place being full of hot chicks.

my 2 cents.


When did business conventions turn into night clubs? I do not get it. If I wanted to party, last place I would go would be to the show in August in that heat and humidity. People who go to shows to primarily to party and get laid are beyond me. Maybe I am getting old.

RogerV 07-13-2005 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
When did business conventions turn into night clubs? I do not get it. If I wanted to party, last place I would go would be to the show in August in that heat and humidity. People who go to shows to primarily to party and get laid are beyond me. Maybe I am getting old.

You just had a baby. I give you a year before you change your mind about what you just said :1orglaugh

the cancun show was great and it had the right mix :thumbsup I even wore a blow me hat :winkwink:

BradShaw 07-13-2005 08:44 PM

But I do see the point of people heading off to south beach. The reality is, many go there for the wrong and if the place was all guys, people would head out fast.

But in the end, why do people still line AVN's pockets. IMHO, they will make a fortune off this show. Everything is sponsored from the floor, to the elevators, etc etc. Amazing people still buy that crap.

This will be our first AVN show in a long time with no booth. They made the booths worthless by removing the floor as a central meeting place.

newbreed 07-13-2005 08:45 PM

From another thread...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrinkingLight
I heard that our new exhibiting times will be from 11-3 instead of previous show times being 9/10-5.

So basically we are losing face time infront of our customers since the show times will be shortened drastically... If we're only exhibiting for 12 hours (versus 24 hours at previous shows) why the heck are we paying the same price? In actuallity we're paying more because AVN now automatically includes the internet access into every booth.

I honestly don't think we will exhibit again after this year in Miami, it's just getting to be so much of a cash grab... Stick a fork in me, I'm done!

DH

I have seen a few statements like this, big booth and sponsor buyers getting a bad taste about the pricing/exposure issue.

newbreed 07-13-2005 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
But I do see the point of people heading off to south beach. The reality is, many go there for the wrong and if the place was all guys, people would head out fast.

But in the end, why do people still line AVN's pockets. IMHO, they will make a fortune off this show. Everything is sponsored from the floor, to the elevators, etc etc. Amazing people still buy that crap.

This will be our first AVN show in a long time with no booth. They made the booths worthless by removing the floor as a central meeting place.

You forgot the toilet paper...

RogerV 07-13-2005 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
But I do see the point of people heading off to south beach. The reality is, many go there for the wrong and if the place was all guys, people would head out fast.

But in the end, why do people still line AVN's pockets. IMHO, they will make a fortune off this show. Everything is sponsored from the floor, to the elevators, etc etc. Amazing people still buy that crap.

This will be our first AVN show in a long time with no booth. They made the booths worthless by removing the floor as a central meeting place.

If I was selling cars and owned a dealership. I would bring alot of hot cars for people to check out. :2 cents: lets not forget what we sell

New Hope 07-13-2005 09:00 PM

I am not going. Mainstream shows don't charge for floor entrance.. only for the seminars.

Problem is that AVN has run out of excused to justify their existence in the online industry. They know less about online business than the average surfer, so who is going to pay to see yet another panel of the same people they just saw at another show talking about chargebacks, 2257, copa.

Unfortunately AVN is doing what is in their best interest short term... but their worst interest long term. Other shows will end up sucking away enough sponsors and attendees from AVN over time that internext will end up just being "yet another show".

They had almost a complete monopoly on shows but they are systematically eliminating the things/people/parties/events that set them apart.

If cybernet would just get a non-white-trash hotel they would take AVN's place in a heartbeat.

RogerV 07-13-2005 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Money
Roger, you got that award winning Pimp Hand going super strong in that heat down there Pimpin'.

Imagine Roger and Ron with only 4 ladies around them. Takes at least 6 of them to correctly apply the sun tan lotion.

:cool-smil

Westcoast to Eastcoast I still keep the pimphand strong. It's international pimpin at it's finest :pimp

TheGoldenChild 07-13-2005 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC
It is Miami so I will go with the sunkist glow. ROFLMAO. Only one thing I want 3 of your 4 girls to rub it all over me in my room to start with so it get the true GLOW look

Well time to go out to the bars and start finding which girls would be worth $300.00 to bring to a show. HAHA.

KB and Darren

You might have to give AVN the Pimp of the year award if they have truly found a way to get webmaster to pay $300 just to get laid.. TO FUNNY
Now that is what I call a true Pre-Checked UPSALE.

and what would YOU KNOW about a pre- checked cross sell?

Did u used to work for Kimmy Kim?
And you are???

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :1orglaugh

newbreed 07-13-2005 09:04 PM

Roger got Mad Views!

jonesy 07-13-2005 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
Roger got Mad Views!

i was just going to post the same thing ... :1orglaugh

RogerV 07-13-2005 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed
Roger got Mad Views!

Naw its all about 2257ware baby :)


this won't get me webmasters but the girls who i bring will :winkwink:

I'm old school if you really want traffic get them laid :2 cents:

HAPPYPEEKERS 07-13-2005 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV
800+ guys isn't enough for you. damn you'll give Houston a ride for her money :1orglaugh


Not to be rude ... I have gone to alot of the shows ... most of the male webmasters are not... lets just say " MODEL MATERIAL" :thumbsup

RogerV 07-13-2005 09:13 PM

JB, Lensman,Chris Mallick :pimp were are you guys I need some support

RogerV 07-13-2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happypeekers
Not to be rude ... I have gone to alot of the shows ... most of the male webmasters are not... lets just say " MODEL MATERIAL" :thumbsup


Ouch.. :( If I bring you a sexy male model will you send me traffic?

TheGoldenChild 07-13-2005 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Hope
I am not going. Mainstream shows don't charge for floor entrance.. only for the seminars.

Problem is that AVN has run out of excused to justify their existence in the online industry. They know less about online business than the average surfer, so who is going to pay to see yet another panel of the same people they just saw at another show talking about chargebacks, 2257, copa.

Unfortunately AVN is doing what is in their best interest short term... but their worst interest long term. Other shows will end up sucking away enough sponsors and attendees from AVN over time that internext will end up just being "yet another show".

They had almost a complete monopoly on shows but they are systematically eliminating the things/people/parties/events that set them apart.

If cybernet would just get a non-white-trash hotel they would take AVN's place in a heartbeat.

This could win an award for the best post ever o the subject of AVN
Hands Down
You win a BIG WOODY

tony286 07-13-2005 09:18 PM

When you think about it that models are so important to a tradeshow is pretty sad actually. lol In reality what business has ever been done because of a pretty face. Im no fan of AVN I feel they are out of touch with our side of the business.

HAPPYPEEKERS 07-13-2005 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Ouch.. :( If I bring you a sexy male model will you send me traffic?


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

SweetT 07-13-2005 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Where the hell is Mike Price and Sweet T? We need help


SweetT to the rescue :)


Aly....DAH'ling....just out of curiosity....this pic is from last years Miami show....so, how much would this cost us???

http://www.tonymorgan.com/200408Miami/DSCN0467.JPG


--T

TheGoldenChild 07-13-2005 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT
SweetT to the rescue :)


Aly....DAH'ling....just out of curiosity....this pic is from last years Miami show....so, how much would this cost us???

http://www.tonymorgan.com/200408Miami/DSCN0467.JPG


--T

Wow that's a small turnout for you T!
I'll miss you in Miami
But KUDOS once again on a GREAT party at SIDEBAR

Went back there last week-
They miss you..and your money
:-))

PS everytime I see leslie in a picture I gt an uncontrollable urge to attack that ass!!

G-d love her..

RogerV 07-13-2005 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT
SweetT to the rescue :)


Aly....DAH'ling....just out of curiosity....this pic is from last years Miami show....so, how much would this cost us???

http://www.tonymorgan.com/200408Miami/DSCN0467.JPG


--T

Finally I was waiting for you to spot this and post :winkwink:

BTW your support at NATNET is top notch :thumbsup

Aly 07-13-2005 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT
SweetT to the rescue :)


Aly....DAH'ling....just out of curiosity....this pic is from last years Miami show....so, how much would this cost us???

http://www.tonymorgan.com/200408Miami/DSCN0467.JPG


--T


Absolutely nothing in the evening.

TheGoldenChild 07-13-2005 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN
Absolutely nothing in the evening.


Not to attack you or anything DAHling-
But you guys seemed to have flip flopped on your stance about guests so much in the last three weeks- you are blowing any ounce of credibility you had-

I can't wait until more sponsors speak up
I guarantee this will be changed and all girls will be free come INternext

I am watching and waiting-

This is getting good

RogerV 07-13-2005 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN
Absolutely nothing in the evening.

Ok Aly I'm going to get all the big pimps out to Post :winkwink: time to break out all the big guns.

and I love seeing some of my ex's btw LOL

RogerV 07-13-2005 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Not to attack you or anything DAHling-
But you guys seemed to have flip flopped on your stance about guests so much in the last three weeks- you are blowing any ounce of credibility you had-

I can't wait until more sponsors speak up
I guarantee this will be changed and all girls will be free come INternext

I am watching and waiting-

This is getting good

I really think Aly can make it happen :thumbsup

Aly 07-13-2005 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Not to attack you or anything DAHling-
But you guys seemed to have flip flopped on your stance about guests so much in the last three weeks- you are blowing any ounce of credibility you had-

I can't wait until more sponsors speak up
I guarantee this will be changed and all girls will be free come INternext

I am watching and waiting-

This is getting good

Actually, DAHling- 'we guys' simply added the option of an evening guest pass a while ago. It's really not that complex... :winkwink:

seeric 07-13-2005 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
When did business conventions turn into night clubs? I do not get it. If I wanted to party, last place I would go would be to the show in August in that heat and humidity. People who go to shows to primarily to party and get laid are beyond me. Maybe I am getting old.


my response is a mere analogy of a statement by Ron C about letting chicks in for free to add value to the environment of the show. nightclub operation and tradeshow operation are very similar.

nightclub = gathering of people for the purpose of entertainment.
sex tradeshow = gathering of people for the purpose of business and entertainment.

not sure about others, but all i see at shows is partying. webmsters drink and party from the time they wake up in the morning until they go to bed at 6am. thats what i see, maybe i'm wrong.

i'm probably older than you bro or close. 35 in 2 weeks.

i think the bottom line point here is if you end up cutting off the chicks that really have no reason to be at the show besides their rack, and to attract attention to brands, then you can possibly end up slitting your own throat if you sat and did the math. shows are an environment and if the chemistry is wrong, it can fuck you. i don't wanna be around 95,000 dudes, even if they are my friends. my personal opinion with any type of event is if you have the capacity in a venue, all the women who are eye candy, or there strictly to look good and get hit on by dudes with lots of money who have the intent to spend said money on the women mentioned, my professional opinion is to let any woman who is there to attract attention to themselves, in for free.

i have watched several events bomb and burn into failure because of greedy promoters. i'm not saying avn is greedy, i could give a shit, i'm saying when you mess with the balance and chemistry of the event, (especially one dealing directly in sex), you'd better be careful. roger didn't bring this up for no reason. he dcould easily bring 25 girls to that pool. i could bring another 10 on the low scale if i was going. you think i would pay 3000 dollars to bring 10 moochers to the show anyhow. women liek the ones we know are a lot of work, alot.

thats my point in a nutshell. strictly a professional opinion from someone who has done successful shows for over 10 years. not that i expect anyone to listen. i am here for your entertainment. :)

SweetT 07-13-2005 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Wow that's a small turnout for you T!
I'll miss you in Miami
But KUDOS once again on a GREAT party at SIDEBAR

Went back there last week-
They miss you..and your money
:-))

Thanks, dude. Actually my Buddy at Light in Las Vegas told me that Side Bar, Level and On Broadway are throwing a party in Vegas for the "San Diego 100". Apparently they are the 100 Hottest Girls in San Diego. I had never heard of it but it sounds like a helluva party.

Might just have to buzz out there and check it out.


--T

jonesy 07-13-2005 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV

Ok Aly I'm going to get all the big pimps out to Post :winkwink: time to break out all the big guns.


LET THE MAD VIEWS BEGIN

TheGoldenChild 07-13-2005 09:32 PM

[QUOTE=SweetT]
Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Wow that's a small turnout for you T!
I'll miss you in Miami
But KUDOS once again on a GREAT party at SIDEBAR

Went back there last week-
They miss you..and your money
:-))
QUOTE]

Thanks, dude. Actually my Buddy at Light in Las Vegas told me that Side Bar, Level and On Broadway are throwing a party in Vegas for the "San Diego 100". Apparently they are the 100 Hottest Girls in San Diego. I had never heard of it but it sounds like a helluva party.

Might just have to buzz out there and check it out.


--T

Make sure to stay at the new Solamar Hotel
Hottest place in town- and a great rooftop bar
J Bar on 6th

What a scene- it's the Mondrian meets Nikki Beach
in San Diego!

Hot spot- and a nice boutique hotel.

PS I fucked literally 4% of the hot 100 I am pretty sure of it-
and they are no longer that hot when I get through with them
LOL

Make it the San Diego 96
:pimp

seeric 07-13-2005 09:33 PM

damn! i forgot my pic. i wanna look like a big pimp too! sweet t, ron, and roger are makin me look bad

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.airek.com/gfy/girls.jpg

MikeVega 07-13-2005 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN
Absolutely nothing in the evening.

True playas like myself ...party like that all day and night ... there's no sleeping in Miami ....

TheGoldenChild 07-13-2005 09:37 PM

Pimp Pimp Hooray!

:pimp

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050713/nyw039.html?.v=14

In case you missed it earlier...
Too bad AVN has no piece of this action.

Anyone want to go on a free trip from AVN???
:-))

ahahahahaha

seeric 07-13-2005 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=SweetT]
Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Wow that's a small turnout for you T!
I'll miss you in Miami
But KUDOS once again on a GREAT party at SIDEBAR

Went back there last week-
They miss you..and your money
:-))
/QUOTE]

Thanks, dude. Actually my Buddy at Light in Las Vegas told me that Side Bar, Level and On Broadway are throwing a party in Vegas for the "San Diego 100". Apparently they are the 100 Hottest Girls in San Diego. I had never heard of it but it sounds like a helluva party.

Might just have to buzz out there and check it out.


--T

hey t

that party belonged to our crew and it was jacked from within by a rival production company in san diego. shady shit to say the least. shady fuckers.

off topic. my bad.


:)

tony286 07-13-2005 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
damn! i forgot my pic. i wanna look like a big pimp too! sweet t, ron, and roger are makin me look bad

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.airek.com/gfy/girls.jpg

This pic and the others all I see are a bunch of models paid to be there. Are our dicks so small that we need paid models to make us feel better about ourselves lol

SweetT 07-13-2005 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN
Absolutely nothing in the evening.

Thats great to hear, Aly....let me say that if there is anyone in the world that can put this whole thing together and make all sides happy then it is YOU.....well, except for KB....even you are not going to make him happy at this point so give up on him. :1orglaugh

I am curious about somethings though....so let me know what I am going to need to do here. I will be bringing the following people with me to the show:

1.) Me, CEO (yes, I know I need a badge)
2.) Bill, EVP (ditto)
3.) Kathi, Sales (uh-huh)
4.) Andrew, Sales (yuppers)
5.) Ryan, Limo Driver (hmmm?)
6.) Tom, Limo Driver (scratching head)
7.) Girl #1 TBA
8.) Girl #2 TBA (as long as girl #1 is down for that)
9.) Ali, Security (necessary in case Girl #1 is not down for that) ;)


So, I know that I need passes for 1, 2, 3 and 4 but between the other 5 they don't know the difference between a hard drive and a click through and would not know a trade show booth if it jumped from behind the bushes started square dancing in front of them. Do I really need to buy them badges?


--T

SiMpLe 07-13-2005 09:45 PM

What about the hookers - You gota pay for the pussy and another 300 just to get them into the room.

Booooooooooooo AVN

TheGoldenChild 07-13-2005 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetT
Thats great to hear, Aly....let me say that if there is anyone in the world that can put this whole thing together and make all sides happy then it is YOU.....well, except for KB....even you are not going to make him happy at this point so give up on him. :1orglaugh

I am curious about somethings though....so let me know what I am going to need to do here. I will be bringing the following people with me to the show:

1.) Me, CEO (yes, I know I need a badge)
2.) Bill, EVP (ditto)
3.) Kathi, Sales (uh-huh)
4.) Andrew, Sales (yuppers)
5.) Ryan, Limo Driver (hmmm?)
6.) Tom, Limo Driver (scratching head)
7.) Girl #1 TBA
8.) Girl #2 TBA (as long as girl #1 is down for that)
9.) Ali, Security (necessary in case Girl #1 is not down for that) ;)


So, I know that I need passes for 1, 2, 3 and 4 but between the other 5 they don't know the difference between a hard drive and a click through and would not know a trade show booth if it jumped from behind the bushes started square dancing in front of them. Do I really need to buy them badges?




--T

"So, I know that I need passes for 1, 2, 3 and 4 but between the other 5 they don't know the difference between a hard drive and a click through and would not know a trade show booth if it jumped from behind the bushes started square dancing in front of them. Do I really need to buy them badges?"

Don't feel so bad for your employees T, other than Aly...no one else at AVN knows from a hard drive or a click through either...


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