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woj 07-14-2005 11:49 AM

400..........

WiredGuy 07-14-2005 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie
So there is going to be a bikini contest this year? Is SilverCash sponsoring again? And did LAMike have to anti up $300 a pop for the contestants?

Good question, I hope SC didn't ante up $300/contestant, that would be just insane.
WG

aimeesweet 07-14-2005 11:59 AM

Out of curiosity...what time do the doors open up to guests? 3pm? 6pm?

seeric 07-14-2005 11:59 AM

they didn't. re: thurbs post

RogerV 07-14-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie
LMFAO not one chick to be seen there. UGH, what a nightmare this is going to be.

So there is going to be a bikini contest this year? Is SilverCash sponsoring again? And did LAMike have to anti up $300 a pop for the contestants? I do have to agree with some of what RonC said with regards to a poolside party and only men. It will take, easy an hour for people to start busting out and heading to South Beach and it sucks that the sponsors lose that valuable networking time. It also sucks that the people that are paying the $300 to go and network will miss out because a ton of people are going to be at strip clubs etc. Ever try to do business in a strip club while some girl is sitting on someone's lap? Not saying that it can't be done, but why do I have to go and chase people around at clubts to do business? Makes no sense.

Roger, yes, I know you love the ladies...you better, after all it sounds like you are going to be stuck with us LOL :P

I feel sorry for the 800 other guys. :winkwink:

I just really don't understand how they wouldn't just take a minute to figure it out. I mean it went to 8 pages which i really didn't even expect.

all I have to say any show after this who charges me to have girls in a hotel I paid for I'm coming solo to network for about an hour then ditching to party with my friends and girls.

sticking the sponsors all the time to pay for everything is wrong. Its not 1999 anymore margins a tight. plus there is a show like every month now

swedguy 07-14-2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie
So there is going to be a bikini contest this year?

Yeah....

http://www.utopia-asia.com/spec/park04/pool2.jpg

:Oh crap

RogerV 07-14-2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy

LMAO :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

sherie 07-14-2005 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedguy

OMFG!!! :helpme

DWB 07-14-2005 12:08 PM

Roger... you created one monster of a thread my man.

Thurbs 07-14-2005 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
they didn't. re: thurbs post

hah .. I have no clue if we paid or not, I just said im gonna be out there hustlin to get the womens in :)

my post was more to confirm there will be a bikini contest :thumbsup

SeanE 07-14-2005 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
I guess we will just have to have our private parties again LOL :winkwink:


I look forward to seeing everyone there :thumbsup I'm always going to make the best out of a situation.


Looking forward to seeing you Rog... Whatever the outcome I know we will end up having a good time. :thumbsup

JJ Gold 07-14-2005 12:18 PM

Maybe this is all an honest mistake. Perhaps AVN thinks this is supposed to be a GAYVN event?

Stewie 07-14-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanE
You would just love that wouldn't you big boy? ;-) HAHA

Oh, come on... Like you haven't dressed up like a cabana boy before.

RogerV 07-14-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAlysha
Have you hit on me yet?

Looks like your next on the list. make sure not to wear any panties when i show up to your room :pimp

Stewie 07-14-2005 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Gold

We are talking about webmasters here.... let's be more realistic. :winkwink:

http://images.vanilladeville.com/sleaze.jpg

RogerV 07-14-2005 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverCash Thurbs
hah .. I have no clue if we paid or not, I just said im gonna be out there hustlin to get the womens in :)

my post was more to confirm there will be a bikini contest :thumbsup

Thats great I wanna be a judge again :thumbsup

RogerV 07-14-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie
We are talking about webmasters here.... let's be more realistic. :winkwink:

http://images.vanilladeville.com/sleaze.jpg


Oh my god I just hit the floor :1orglaugh

Eric 07-14-2005 12:44 PM

I will still be attending and I am happy that there is a charge for a badge and that badges are required to get into the hotel.

I do think that there is a happy medium that can be reached for girls that people would like to bring to the hotel during the day for eye candy by the pool and in other places.

AVN had to do someting to get rid of the mooch factor for sure. Not to say that I personally didn't get business done with someone that was around based on Mooch factor at one point in time. But at the same time to get on the show floor and to the seminars there still needs to be a charge for the ability to attend these portions of the event. So I see no reason that the full badge shouldn't cover this event and then there be an alternative to this option for people who want to come hang out by the pool or in the lobby.

I think a good solution has been come up with for the evening guest passes but I think that something similar even a small charge during the day to be able to come and hang out by the pool, meet new people, and enjoy free drinks and a lunch. I mean is it really going to kill someone to pay $30 to $50 bucks to be able to hang out at the hotel all day and eat and drink for free?

Question to Aly would be what is considered evening? For the quest passes? Since the show floor closes at 3pm does that mean the guest passes are going to start being handed out at that time?

Also in the evening are there going to be wristbands or do I just show my room key to get back into the hotel. I am not sure about everyone else, but I usually do not wear my badge 24 hours a day. You may think about using a wristband system like an all inclusive resort does to save us having to have our badges on us at all times.

Please let us know the guest pass hours...

NaughtyAlysha 07-14-2005 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Looks like your next on the list. make sure not to wear any panties when i show up to your room :pimp

Panties? What are panties?

Aren't you going to the Tampa Webmaster Gathering tomorrow night?

SeanE 07-14-2005 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie
Oh, come on... Like you haven't dressed up like a cabana boy before.

Only at your sexy ladies request. "more lotion ms vanilla?" :winkwink:

Stewie 07-14-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanE
Only at your sexy ladies request. "more lotion ms vanilla?" :winkwink:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Buddy 07-14-2005 01:17 PM

Since this thread seems to be getting responses:

The hotel is sold out. I don't have a room, any advice on where I should stay?

WiredGuy 07-14-2005 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy
Since this thread seems to be getting responses:

The hotel is sold out. I don't have a room, any advice on where I should stay?

Did you tell them that you are attending Internext convention? The hotel is blocked for anyone not telling them this.
WG

Buddy 07-14-2005 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Did you tell them that you are attending Internext convention? The hotel is blocked for anyone not telling them this.
WG

Yeah, he said that the block for Internext was sold out. So I asked if there was anything outside of the block, and he checked and said no. He said there might be some suites available.
Does my badge entitle me to sleep in the conference room? :thumbsup

RogerV 07-14-2005 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAlysha
Panties? What are panties?

Aren't you going to the Tampa Webmaster Gathering tomorrow night?


I think we are sponsoring the dinner :winkwink: yes I will be there without any underwear on

RogerV 07-14-2005 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
I will still be attending and I am happy that there is a charge for a badge and that badges are required to get into the hotel.

I do think that there is a happy medium that can be reached for girls that people would like to bring to the hotel during the day for eye candy by the pool and in other places.

AVN had to do someting to get rid of the mooch factor for sure. Not to say that I personally didn't get business done with someone that was around based on Mooch factor at one point in time. But at the same time to get on the show floor and to the seminars there still needs to be a charge for the ability to attend these portions of the event. So I see no reason that the full badge shouldn't cover this event and then there be an alternative to this option for people who want to come hang out by the pool or in the lobby.

I think a good solution has been come up with for the evening guest passes but I think that something similar even a small charge during the day to be able to come and hang out by the pool, meet new people, and enjoy free drinks and a lunch. I mean is it really going to kill someone to pay $30 to $50 bucks to be able to hang out at the hotel all day and eat and drink for free?

Question to Aly would be what is considered evening? For the quest passes? Since the show floor closes at 3pm does that mean the guest passes are going to start being handed out at that time?

Also in the evening are there going to be wristbands or do I just show my room key to get back into the hotel. I am not sure about everyone else, but I usually do not wear my badge 24 hours a day. You may think about using a wristband system like an all inclusive resort does to save us having to have our badges on us at all times.

Please let us know the guest pass hours...

I agree about getting rid of the moochers

$30-$50 is fine even though we all know how much they are making off of us with everything else and I'm not going into detail lets just say trade shows are very profitable.

We as Sponsors are always getting called out on shit . One time we ask for someone to bend and we get shafted.

TheGoldenChild 07-14-2005 01:43 PM

I love GFY!!
SOOOOOO FUCKING FUNNY

AVN and GAYVN have merged?
Thank G-d I won't be anywhere near that pool in my banana hammock :pimp

I know LA MIKE and Roger's Asses are in big trouble around that pool!!

LOL

RyuLion 07-14-2005 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy
Yeah, he said that the block for Internext was sold out. So I asked if there was anything outside of the block, and he checked and said no. He said there might be some suites available.
Does my badge entitle me to sleep in the conference room? :thumbsup

Just get so drunk and pass out in a couch..that's what I do.. :1orglaugh :thumbsup

sherie 07-14-2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy
Yeah, he said that the block for Internext was sold out. So I asked if there was anything outside of the block, and he checked and said no. He said there might be some suites available.
Does my badge entitle me to sleep in the conference room? :thumbsup

The "block" for Internext? What is going on here? I thoiught that we had the whole hotel...Doesn't seem as tho any of these rules we are talking about can be implemented if we only have a "block" of rooms....WHAT'S GOING ON HERE!?!?!? I am soooooooo confused!

RogerV 07-14-2005 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
I will still be attending and I am happy that there is a charge for a badge and that badges are required to get into the hotel.

I do think that there is a happy medium that can be reached for girls that people would like to bring to the hotel during the day for eye candy by the pool and in other places.

AVN had to do someting to get rid of the mooch factor for sure. Not to say that I personally didn't get business done with someone that was around based on Mooch factor at one point in time. But at the same time to get on the show floor and to the seminars there still needs to be a charge for the ability to attend these portions of the event. So I see no reason that the full badge shouldn't cover this event and then there be an alternative to this option for people who want to come hang out by the pool or in the lobby.

I think a good solution has been come up with for the evening guest passes but I think that something similar even a small charge during the day to be able to come and hang out by the pool, meet new people, and enjoy free drinks and a lunch. I mean is it really going to kill someone to pay $30 to $50 bucks to be able to hang out at the hotel all day and eat and drink for free?

Question to Aly would be what is considered evening? For the quest passes? Since the show floor closes at 3pm does that mean the guest passes are going to start being handed out at that time?

Also in the evening are there going to be wristbands or do I just show my room key to get back into the hotel. I am not sure about everyone else, but I usually do not wear my badge 24 hours a day. You may think about using a wristband system like an all inclusive resort does to save us having to have our badges on us at all times.

Please let us know the guest pass hours...

your girlfriend is the penthouse Pet of the year. You don't need to worry LOL

RogerV 07-14-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
I love GFY!!
SOOOOOO FUCKING FUNNY

AVN and GAYVN have merged?
Thank G-d I won't be anywhere near that pool in my banana hammock :pimp

I know LA MIKE and Roger's Asses are in big trouble around that pool!!

LOL

I'm going to hide behind BT or LA mike :1orglaugh

Joesho 07-14-2005 02:22 PM

I agree, eye candy is a must.

however with that said, I am actually lloking to meet business people not just eye candy. I dont really care about getting drunk and fucking hookers, i wanna talk to people with Traffic, with new technology, with paysites that convert etc....

I agree with eric, there needs to be a happy medium.

I like the 30 dollar a day guest pool pass idea. and if you are worried about moochers using this to get in, then make it so only a sponsor can pay for a pool guest pass, and not just an attendee.

If an attendee wants to pay for a pass for say a girlfriend, or some model or something like that, then make it so they are all approved by AVn before they can recieve a pass. it is really quite simple actually

Nathan 07-14-2005 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherie
The "block" for Internext? What is going on here? I thoiught that we had the whole hotel...Doesn't seem as tho any of these rules we are talking about can be implemented if we only have a "block" of rooms....WHAT'S GOING ON HERE!?!?!? I am soooooooo confused!

sherie,

Internext has a block of rooms, the block is all rooms of the hotel. And the whole hotel is sold out. (998 rooms)

http://www.starwoodmeeting.com/StarG...3861&key=841A3

RonC 07-14-2005 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN
Scuse the cut 'n' paste from a different thread...

I just want to let you know I read you loud and clear! Thank you for your feedback, this IS being addressed.

This is far more complicated than it may appear so I'm not just going to throw out an- 'oh right, sorry, yes, we'll change that' to you.

The folks at Internext are very much aware of the appeal of pretty women (and pretty men for some) We've already implemented a solution to bring guests into the facilities in the evening as a response to this issue. With regards to day-time attractions, bring me a busload of 30 stunning women and we'll definitely talk... otherwise, we're still chewing on this but it is unlikely to be changed for this year; there'll definitely be something worked out for next year but with a few weeks to go before the show now it would be wholly unfair to start charging less for some when others have paid full-price. I, personally, will NOT support Internext doing that.

I do want to point out, also, that I (also personally) think you're blowing this out of proportion... there WILL be women at the event. Sponsors always receive free badges that many allocate to models... And hey, there are actually a few good looking women in the industry you know.


Aly

I take quite an exception to the fact that Sponsors are given extra badges

REAL NUMBERS
CCBILL Purchased two pool side Cabanas at a cost or 5K a piece. That is 10K in sponsorship dollars. For that we got 8 passes. and ability to buy 8 more passes for $150.00 This is not a huge number of passes.

Realize CCbill/CCbillEU/Cavecreek/DRMnetworks have over 14 people coming and only 1 is female and that is my Sister. So we will spend North of 50K on Rooms/Travel/Sponsorships alone. That does not even include the Cristal bills in South Beach

MY PRIMARY REASON FOR WANTING TALENT running around is so that this does not happen.

The guys sit around most of the day at the pool drinking with no girls and they start saying hey lets go to South Beach tonight because there are no girls to TRY to hit on. Then the Evening Partys turn into a bust and my 12 Staff members do not have anyone to network and sell to.

Bradshaw is correct this is not about girls and partying but this is about keeping the right enviroment so people are happy and NETWORKING/BUSINESS can be done.

SOLUTION

Give females a choice an ALL ACCESS Badge for $300 or a Pink POOL LOBBY badge for free.

So AVN has to refund what 50 or 100 max badges for $30,000K That is nothing compared to damage the 5000 posts on this board will do when they talk about the FLORDIA SAUSAGE FEST. How many people will not come next year after hearing that??

PRECEPTION IS REALITY

Ron C
















If you don't allow eye

sherie 07-14-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan
sherie,

Internext has a block of rooms, the block is all rooms of the hotel. And the whole hotel is sold out. (998 rooms)

http://www.starwoodmeeting.com/StarG...3861&key=841A3

Phewsh! Thanks for clearing that up for me. It did sound like we only had a "block" when it was explained with regards to guest services.

RogerV 07-14-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC
Aly

I take quite an exception to the fact that Sponsors are given extra badges

REAL NUMBERS
CCBILL Purchased two pool side Cabanas at a cost or 5K a piece. That is 10K in sponsorship dollars. For that we got 8 passes. and ability to buy 8 more passes for $150.00 This is not a huge number of passes.

Realize CCbill/CCbillEU/Cavecreek/DRMnetworks have over 14 people coming and only 1 is female and that is my Sister. So we will spend North of 50K on Rooms/Travel/Sponsorships alone. That does not even include the Cristal bills in South Beach

MY PRIMARY REASON FOR WANTING TALENT running around is so that this does not happen.

The guys sit around most of the day at the pool drinking with no girls and they start saying hey lets go to South Beach tonight because there are no girls to TRY to hit on. Then the Evening Partys turn into a bust and my 12 Staff members do not have anyone to network and sell to.

Bradshaw is correct this is not about girls and partying but this is about keeping the right enviroment so people are happy and NETWORKING/BUSINESS can be done.

SOLUTION

Give females a choice an ALL ACCESS Badge for $300 or a Pink POOL LOBBY badge for free.

So AVN has to refund what 50 or 100 max badges for $30,000K That is nothing compared to damage the 5000 posts on this board will do when they talk about the FLORDIA SAUSAGE FEST. How many people will not come next year after hearing that??

PRECEPTION IS REALITY

Ron C

















If you don't allow eye

I'm starting to believe KB that they really don't give a shit..

the support we have given them over the years and they just keep tightening the screws on us. I don't get it.

RonC 07-14-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie
We are talking about webmasters here.... let's be more realistic. :winkwink:

http://images.vanilladeville.com/sleaze.jpg


ROFLMAO I have tears.

RonC 07-14-2005 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=RogerV]I feel sorry for the 800 other guys. :winkwink:


You are so correct this is not about if we will have girls with us to party at night. That is a GIVEN. Just look at the pics Sweet T post from last year. This is about making sure the other 800 guys stay somewhat together so EVERY COMPANY can Network together.

Ron C

RogerV 07-14-2005 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie
We are talking about webmasters here.... let's be more realistic. :winkwink:

http://images.vanilladeville.com/sleaze.jpg

I know I about fell out of my chair :1orglaugh

I better wax my back

RogerV 07-14-2005 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=RonC]
Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
I feel sorry for the 800 other guys. :winkwink:


You are so correct this is not about if we will have girls with us to party at night. That is a GIVEN. Just look at the pics Sweet T post from last year. This is about making sure the other 800 guys stay somewhat together so EVERY COMPANY can Network together.

Ron C

And thats what its all about. :thumbsup I get laid on a daily bases so the girls I bring are not all for me. Notice I say all :winkwink:

Lensman 07-14-2005 02:51 PM

Quote:

PERCEPTION IS REALITY

Ron C
The 3 greatest words of advice in business, EVER!

RonC 07-14-2005 02:51 PM

[QUOTE=RogerV]
Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC

And thats what its all about. :thumbsup I get laid on a daily bases so the girls I bring are not all for me. Notice I say all :winkwink:

I remember a pretty little blonde from Cancun (will not say her name here) that did not mind sharing you:)

Yes I can not wait till the boys all get back together in FL.


Ron C

RonC 07-14-2005 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
The 3 greatest words of advice in business, EVER!

Take Note AVN the Adult ONLINE Industry Leaders are WATCHING

Ron C

d00t 07-14-2005 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly_AVN
we're still chewing on this but it is unlikely to be changed for this year; there'll definitely be something worked out for next year .

most of us are already taking the risk and investing our trust into AVN to pull this off. there won't be a next year if this year isn't worth the extra$$

think ibill

Lensman 07-14-2005 02:58 PM

This thread snuck up on me, so I haven't read it. But the funny thing is that for the AVN Awards Show, we found out last time that they issue FREE talent passes for active female talent. And others have to pay. Wish we new that in year's past, because I was not letting some of our staff go so we could have some eye candy in our limited amount of spots.

TheGoldenChild 07-14-2005 03:04 PM

I AM RIGHT
and you know what it makews me feel really good inside when after mos of barking and yelling the BIG DOGS have spoken...
I love when Ron C , Lensman, or Tony Morgan talk-

It's starting to give me more credibility
and only ascertains what I already have stated-

AVN DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANY OF YOU.
PERIOD.

If they did they would POST ON THIS BOARD-
and not have ALY in the direct line of fire everyday and night

Two things will come of this I guarantee-
Either ALy will finally realize she has virtually NO SAY in anything that goes down there and quit-
Or chicks will allowed on the premises for next to nothing-

I can't wait to see how this shakes out

AVN The REAL PLAYERS HAVE SPOKEN

and guess what?

THESE GUYS ARE YOUR BIGGEST ADVERTISERS.

AVN YOU ARE A BUNCH OF STUPID BUSINESSMEN

The internet is slowly pulling away from you-
YOU NO LONGER HAVE ANY PULL WITH WEB PEOPLE

You also have another MONTH of being FRIED On this board-


PS on a good note-

Howmany passes did you get to the Players Ball Ron?
And how much was your sponsorship?

And howmany girls of yours didn't get in??
:-)

D-Money 07-14-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC
Take Note AVN the Adult ONLINE Industry Leaders are WATCHING

Ron C

Yes they are.

D-Money 07-14-2005 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Howmany passes did you get to the Players Ball Ron?
And how much was your sponsorship?

And howmany girls of yours didn't get in??
:-)

The Players Ball shares the same mentality as RonC. Girls make the event over the top. If Ron has a bunch of women that need to go, and he's also a sponsor, the answer to Ron is "how many will you need".

Our price per Players Ball pass based on the sponsorship packages and passes included work out to be $300 a pass. I have NO PROBLEM giving women that are "eye candy" free passes to make our sponsors happy.

Once you have a sausage fest, people talk shit and your event can go down hill from there, and I've always recognized that.

:pimp

Aly 07-14-2005 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonC
Take Note AVN the Adult ONLINE Industry Leaders are WATCHING

Ron C

Duly noted, Ron. Thanks.

RogerV 07-14-2005 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman
This thread snuck up on me, so I haven't read it. But the funny thing is that for the AVN Awards Show, we found out last time that they issue FREE talent passes for active female talent. And others have to pay. Wish we new that in year's past, because I was not letting some of our staff go so we could have some eye candy in our limited amount of spots.

See how happy Lens looks with a hot girl around makes networking so much more fun.
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...aya/z07366.htm

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...aya/z07357.htm


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