250..........

I must dream :upsidedow :1orglaugh

hahaha! I just reread that..you know who the hell I am! :1orglaugh


icq in my sig. :winkwink:

heya gorgeous! hahahah, u got me on that one ehehe :winkwink:

what choo up to?

:1orglaugh icq me sexy!

hitted! :winkwink:

Nubiles is great people, it was a pleasure running into you guys in vegas at internext

You sir are amazing! :winkwink:

hehe, the pleasure was all mine :winkwink:

No wire yet :(

I have a question for you Bill. Why would you pay this reject before receiving the work? All the sites and magazines that buy content from photogs inspect the work, model releases and id's before cutting checks. I hope he didn't request payment before the work was done cuz he had no money? :warning

Its Sat... no shit. I told you quite clearly that it was sent at 3:32 yesterday. My bank, Bank One might not post till monday. Or, your bank might not post it till monday.


I expect a full and total retraction on Monday morning.

Yeah RRAY, im broke.. hahahaha can I have a loan? Maybe your halfway house in downtown Detroit has a room? Getting a bit clse to home am I?

dunno about him, but i ask for 50% upfront to make sure i can cover the model, photographer, makeup, wardrobe, etc. costs for at least 50% of the project.

At least with new clients, there are too many deadbeats around to start shooting without a deposit :2 cents:

for recurring clients we don't ask for a deposit - but for new customers we had to do that since we had some bad experiences in the past :2 cents:

I dont ask for a 100% deposit either. Never have and never will. I will take a deposit to secure a certain model for a client, thats done all the time or for orders over 20k which all of mine are really. I normally take a 25% deposit for orders that size to cover upfront model expenses, outfits and locations if needed. Then the client pays the other 50-75% when the content is delivered.

Bill paid upfront and he was never ask to. No biggie. He wired it without me even asking. H edoes pay well and thats great. He didnt get his order fast enough so I gave it to him for free. Seems fair to me.

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One thing to think about is time.Running to the bank for every 50% deposit means twice the amount of trips to the bank. You get to the bank, you wait in line, you wait for the teller to write the wire, you have to deal with her looking at your account and asking what you do. Thats at least an hour of time. Its so much easier to send a payment once. Most photographers ask for the payment when they send the work. Very few asked for it in the beginning. I fucked up, I couldnt image why someone would want to take my money and not produce anything, or not work quickly to make things right, and then still come to this board.

If this guy really sent the content, lets see the tracking #.

I am sure he will send a wire eventually, but the question is why does it have to be like this? I expressed concern so long ago. Why not just pay the $20 fed ex and overnight it. Or why not just say the shoot got ruined (if it was never shot) and return the money back then. It shouldnt be this difficult.

Theres been more than one time when a photographer has said hes low on funds and asked me to run by the fed ex and get a check out or deposit in his account. You just do it, thats a part of working together.

This is going to be a major drama again, history all over

Wow... let's hope his bank doesn't screw up 2 wire attempts followed by a Western Union screw up as was in my case :warning

Good thing you're not in Canada or you might end up with $1500 Canadian back :disgust

good luck getting paid/content nubiles! let us know how it works out

will jeff ever quit ?

I hear what you're saying Bill. Let us know what happens in this very informative thread about this sociopath from MI.

Sorry to hear about your problems , did you ask for a tracking #(as if it matters) ?? As much as I hate to say, this is the same type of BULLSHIT... JEFF was pulling on people! Promises upon promises , phony tracking #'s,bank transfers and wires that never arrive, bad cheques. When you get your content, if you do , just hope the Girls have been paid! Jeff had a chance to re-invent himself and make good, looks like he just fucked up again :2 cents: in

Nice spelling moron.. hahahahahhahahahahahahahah! Hard to excpect more when youve hit bottom in the projects in Detroit. If you need a load, hit me up. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


JFk, you know better and youre smart. Read my responsed. Ive done everything I said I would do. When this Jeff asshole does the same, let me know.


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hmmmm.....interesting icq!

I met shooting_manic at a party, it's Jeff. i have no idea why anyone is even arguing it isn't.

I've search for pictures from this party, very few on gfy. I haven't given up yet though. :winkwink:

I just read the first and last pages of this thread so excuse me if this has been brought up already, but here's an easy solution.... post a picture of yourself?

People know what Perfection Jeff looks like, you say you're not him, post a picture.

Am I missing something?

I know you could post a fake pic easily, but that would seriously limit your ability to meet new people in this biz. So I say posting a pic here in this thread for all to see is a good solution. doooooooooo it

a pic with this thread on a monitor in the background should be pretty much solid proof :2 cents:

It's a bit ironic you'd question my spelling when you can't make even one post without spelling errors. :1orglaugh

LOL! Yeah, whatever dude, If Ebonics was my native tougue I guess I would have an excuse.


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any comment on the solution I proposed?

Sure, when you start buying content from me. That and nothing more earns you the right. Hard to beleive that the industry actual survives without gfy . :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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Why the hostility?

You said you're sick and tired of people accusing that you're Perfection Jeff, here's a way to put it all to rest once and for all. I am not a customer of yours, I just read the thread and wondered why you or anyone else hadn't thought of this before.

You refusing to do this simple solution is in my opinion, proof that you are PF.

Hope you find the pics. :)

Sounds like Jeff is back to his old doings. I agree with what JFK said. fucks up a third time and people still buy from him..

Shooting Manic I don't understand why you just don't show a pic to end all this

Hope you have proof RogerV. Manicpushers sounds pretty cool.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh you must be one strange dude becasue I just don't get ya

Bump for a pic. :)

Would you trust your eighteen year old daughter with this creep? :1orglaugh

That point and shoot is responsible for all those fraudulent perfection girl sites. :Oh crap

Here's a few more pics of the shooting idiot. :1orglaugh It is really hard to imagine a more goofy looking person.

Thanks for the pics. :thumbsup

Bill,

It's Monday, did you get your refund or content?

Rhetorical?

Serious question. Nubiles is well known on this board and it seems unbelievable he won't make payment. But who knows with this clown?

Nubiles is paid, ask him you fuck! And here ya go WHY... made this just for you assclown!



http://www.shootingmanic.com/gfy-haters/2.JPG

How old are you?

I'm 48, got a problem with that?

oh damn, you payed some rotten bum to hold a sign for you.

Wonder if paying him was cheaper than what he spent on soap and clothes. :1orglaugh

I see a pending wire fee for that amount so thanks for everyones support. Its sad that I had to go to the boards just to get my money back. The money wouldnt have been returned without all this drama. I think the problem was he only is doing shoots for solo girl sites and since my shoot was smaller, it was not even important enough to do. But I dont know what the real story is nor do I care.

I do wish he would stop lying and saying that he sent me a refund AND the content, but that is beyond my control. He never sent the content nor will he ever. In my opinion I dont see how anyone can believe he is a different person than Perfection Jeff. Theres too much evidence already showing that he is Jeff, but its not my job to prove it to anyone.

Let the absurd vicarious character continue without me . . . . . . I learned my lesson the hard way.

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