As a customer of submitpasses and someone who has made galleries frequently, I can say you're way off with that one. Some of the passes from these big sites are worth it, others... well, there's a reason they're selling spots instead of just filling them with nice FHG's or paying someone in the Phillipines $10 to make a custom gallery for them.

I will say that SP has offered me excellent customer support the few times I've had to contact them.

Nice deal.

I think people would still buy it even at $75/month. Gallery submitters are very desperate people these days.

Kellys archives arent too bad actually, however I personally think a 2 per day would be fairer because a) its archives, and b) you used to get 3 submits per day before so they probably have the capacity for it.

Your thinking is logical, but you must realize times are changing. Think about it this way. Since 2001, there are about 2,000,000 new webmasters that have gotten into the game and now submit galleries to TGPs. In a few years, there will be 2,000,000 more. Are they all supposed to submit galleries and all get listed at the same TGPs? Nope, demand has increased so much, that now nothing is free. Paying acts as a filter and allows those who desire a listing the most, to be listed.

Im gonna make a case for Kellys archives now. Im sure that the people offended by paying for archives will disagree, but thats the beauty of opinions.

If you visit Kellys, you will notice you have a bit of a mishmash of thumbs which may or may not grab a surfers attention. However you will also notice that the archives are prominently listed, and IMO form the backbone of this site. This is especially so as they are niched...

I certainly think there are worse deals out there than this one as I know I get signups from their archive pages and in that respect its similar to the Madthumbs archives.

For sure it wont be for everyone but I thought I would add in my 2 cents.

Lee, would mind telling if these are from movie or photo galleries you're speaking of?

Both

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out of sudden not only pure gallery submitters are getting these passes ;)

Fris I think your comments are pretty out of line. We used to sell advertising for Lisa from Lolitampegs and she was great to deal with, we stopped selling advertising for her when we became ASACP members. As the word lolita is a banned term under their rules/regulations. I really like Lisa and think she is a great person, there is no drama there.

We currently sell advertising for the Titan network of sites and have been for almost 2 years? Titan and GTS have a great relationship and hope to do business with him for years to come :)

Ray is always looking for quality TGP sites to sell partner accounts for and so am I. Our business is selling advertising, if you choose not to buy it than so be it, but why do you keep bashing us? Aren't you the broker to the blogs now? Were you not the same guy who has "fuck the brokers" in your sig not even a week ago?

DH

just saying i would rather goto owners directly, i am getting paid spots for tgps that you sell spots for, but i am not going through you.

getting direct to the owners is the best.

plus i just direct people to blog advertising i dont make a penny off of it.

notjing like paying gts 400$ a month for a text link that sends 300 hits a day.

when i can send 7k unique clicked traffic a day for 45$ a week.

since when did i say something negative about lolitampegs?

nothing i said ray would never get her to sellout.

thats the point i was making.

[QUOTE=fris]just saying i would rather goto owners directly, i am getting paid spots for tgps that you sell spots for, but i am not going through you.
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Thank you for mentioning that, we will review our sites on Monday and bring this issue up with the site owner in question. This is clearly against our agreement we have with them.

DH

[QUOTE=DrinkingMODerately]The reason this ass hat is pissed is cause I caught him trying to buy passes from "our" sites directly from the owners. The tgp promised me that will stop. So basically Fris is fucked, cause I sure as hell am not gonna sell him anything.

As for buying spots, he is not...he buys spots from Jizzhut, and we dont sell JizzHut spots, we sell only passes.....for now ;)


Have a good weekend folks!

another thing, im 100% sure fris has already bought from us. Be it GTS, NicheSpots or Submitpasses. Ive asked him to email me his info, he has cowardly refused to...Im looking deep and hard for it, cant wait to find it.

Ray

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There is a huge difference between someone having a bad experience buying traffic and blasting us for it and some dip shit fuck face who chooses to bad month us for no apparent reason other than us nailing his ass when trying to scam us.

BTW: before the edit justsexxx asked "why do we get so pissed when someone bad mouth us"...or something to that affect

Ray

Free Speech?...do you understand the concept of a BBS? :disgust

I must also agree while SubmitPasses has excellent deals this is deffy not one of them :(

Sure i know you sold a shitload of passes. But why didnt anyone posted how happy they are about this deal? Maybe they read the whole thread and felt a bit disgraced because it has a lot of thruth?
Im not supposed to be a kunt against GTS. I bought paid spots from you, i bought submit passes. Some were pretty good, some where a complete bust. One thing for sure is that you wont find a GFY thread "GTS sucks" started by Trent Edison. Because after all if i havent made any money from it, i blame my buisness sense and nothing else.
But this archive thing is truly pathetic.

Maybe cause they have been submitting for 2 only days?



Alright, family time.have a good weekend folks.
Ray

Yerah that was right. Sorry for the late edit. I thought the reply wouldn't make much sense for the original topic :)

100...........

It's not pathetic if people are willing to pay. Money is money, and that is what we are all here for.

i have never bought an account through you. nor will i.

for the people submitting over the years getting the respect, then some asshat comes along, and leting a noob get a partner account, while the trusted partners who have helped build up the sites rep. now since submitpasses has gone into effect the prod has gone down.

even kak azn could get a partner.

anyone have a copy of wheres the traffic on dvd? i need a laugh.

well, posting good things will drive lots of n00bs and semin00bs buying the passes and hitting the prices up, why should i make my bottom line less?
I just can say that Ray is 100% solid person and will never set BS prices. Demand & supply is whole another story.

Hey Fris if it's true that you haven?t bought from us you're missing out man, we have submitter's buying partner accounts from every site we have and there Prod has shot up, I for one bought an account on every site and my sales and traffic have gone up. Hit me up on icq I can help you out and let you know what?s available.

hehe dont bother, I'll find him myself. Nice try LOL

Thanks man

I'd say this is a HUGE exaggeration

seems too good to be through, you'd be doing it instead of spreading the word
7k x 7 days ~ 50k uniques per week

with even 1:5000 conversions you'd make 10 sales = $350, for only $45 cost

what i am missing?

Johnny this is the same thing that we did for our own submissions! DH started out in this business doing gallery submissions (as well as buying paid gallery spots), and we have a few employees who still do this. To keep our traffic up we purchased every submitpass available and it has been working great! LOL
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:1orglaugh Site's own hosteds always take precedence btw. Fuck the paying customer.

Bitch please, you must have a mental disease, assume that position, and get back on your knees.

wow, my first 3 page thread, I feel blessed. What you say we go for 4? :1orglaugh

Actually, there a couple more 3 pagers coming this week. :pimp

Ray

So youre gonna sell something else ridiculous?

Or will it be a 3 pager because youre gonna sell something really good?

Depends on who replies, the kiddies will always say it sucks...Hard to make a living from moms basment. The webmasters as usual, will buy them all up and spend their time submitting rather than trying to look like players with post counts.

thx,
Ray

Wrong answer, you know better.
Will it be something ridiculous, greed driven or will it be a killer deal like some of the passes you sell?

Sounds like you've had experience. :1orglaugh

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Well, as with all our passes they are all great great deals. All depends on who uses them. If you cant make at leaste 4 times your money back on any givin month...quit the biz.

I know you willl call bullshit, but with my own personal stuff I am seeing on AVERAGE 1 sale every 2 days comming from each of my bigger accounts. Lets say each account cost me $50/month (most are between 25-50) and Im seeing 15 salles a month from each. Even at $20/sale thats a profit of $250 per account.

From the bigger sites such as EL, VP, Xnxx ive seen up to 3 sales per gallery.

Now lets not forget the smaller $10-$15/month sites. Do I make 1 sale every 2 days? No..but lets be real. Even if they send 1 sale every 3-4th day, its still an awsome profit margin.

So let the flaming begin, while your calling bullshit I will be shopping for new content and building 20 galls for the upcoming week.

Ray