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GatorB 08-30-2005 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches
I see no way they can afford NOT to build it back.

I can. $100 billion to rebuild a city that's BELOW SEA LEVEL and is in a hurricane zone? Ok I can understand the ignorance of New Orleans founders since city planning and meteorology wasn't that advanced back then, but no excuses now.

Pimp Dough 08-30-2005 05:57 PM

Saint Louis, MO. has the 2nd largest Mardi Gras crowd in the United States. Come here and check it out... not worried about New Orleans, other than people and their homes. Parties rock here.

reynold 08-30-2005 06:00 PM

Won't that be good a tourist attaction; a US version of Italy's Venice?

Mr Pheer 08-30-2005 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by davidd
San Francisco contributes massively to the economy. This is a $$$ conversation.

Lousiana is the 6th poorest state in the union, and on a financial review, $100bil would be a lot to spend on a city in this state that is below sea level, and a cess pool.

The GSP (Gross State Product) is: 146,000,000,000

http://www.statehealthfacts.kff.org/...+State+Product

The state of Louisiana pays $20,000,000,000 a year in taxes. On a purely tax revenue basis, it would take 5 years to recoup the money (assuming $100 bil reconstruction on public works, FEMA assistance, etc etc).

Regardless of those facts, what was not mentioned is that 25% of the oil coming in to the US comes thru the port and refineries in New Orleans.

loverboy 08-31-2005 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SureFire
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/IMG_6661.jpg

Lots of cleaning up to do! :Oh crap

what a terrible blow to the economy

:smokin

abadfish 08-31-2005 09:46 AM

New Orleans is an awesome city that I have been to a few times and I can't wait to go back again. Mardi Gras is an awesome event and NO is one of the most unique cities in the US. It has to be rebuilt and I'm sure it will with time.

But yes, building a city of that size below sea level so close to bodies of water is just asking for it!

scoreman 08-31-2005 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPheer
Regardless of those facts, what was not mentioned is that 25% of the oil coming in to the US comes thru the port and refineries in New Orleans.

The oil refinery part of the equation will be rebuilt, you can bet on that. It won't cost but a fraction of the cost of rebuilding the city and it has a big payday, so it will get done.

The real question is do they rebuild all the roads, electrical, housing, govt buildings, grocery stores and on and on. If they do rebuild, how can they justify a complete rebuild to only restore something that could be leveled again because its 10ft below sea level?

Is Bush still on vacation? You can sure tell we are not in the midst of a close election.

davidd 08-31-2005 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by scoreman
The oil refinery part of the equation will be rebuilt, you can bet on that. It won't cost but a fraction of the cost of rebuilding the city and it has a big payday, so it will get done.

The real question is do they rebuild all the roads, electrical, housing, govt buildings, grocery stores and on and on. If they do rebuild, how can they justify a complete rebuild to only restore something that could be leveled again because its 10ft below sea level?

Is Bush still on vacation? You can sure tell we are not in the midst of a close election.

The Constitution forbids the government from rebuilding this city. The state can rebuild the city, that is their choice, if they have the money.

The oil rigs will be back online quickly, that is how private industry works. Putting a possible reconstruction in the hands of the federal govt will result in an other Massachusetts style "Big Dig" (google it for those who do not know).

GatorB 08-31-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPheer
Regardless of those facts, what was not mentioned is that 25% of the oil coming in to the US comes thru the port and refineries in New Orleans.

So doesn't mean you have to rebuild the whole city. Move it to an area that's NOT BELOW SEA LEVEL and call it New New Orleans.

EroticySteve 08-31-2005 11:13 AM

It will get rebuilt that is the American way. While many people will experience devastating losses, most will, in time rebound completely and prosper from the situation. No matter how bad it is, it will be rebuilt. Seawalls and other means of retention will be engineered. It looks dire and grim right now but in time it will all be restored.

This could be one of the best things to happen to the city. As bad as this sounds the reconstruction and cleanup efforts will create opportunities, it will create a new economy, much of what people refer to as a "shithole" will now have the opportunity to be revamped. Most will want to return many wont. The abandoned land will be prime opportunity for development and reconstruction. I would stake a claim in the rebuilding.

woj 08-31-2005 11:39 AM

50......... :)

Penrod 08-31-2005 05:40 PM

Evening Greetings to my Ukrenchian Brother.

floridaT 08-31-2005 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Penrod
Evening Greetings to my Ukrenchian Brother.

Stop looting in this New Orleans thread.

Penrod 08-31-2005 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by floridaT
Stop looting in this New Orleans thread.


I see you are still in office watching Yak Girl Porn.

KRL 08-31-2005 06:07 PM

I'd like to know where they are going to put the debris from an entire city?

Where are they going to put an entire city of people while they rebuild?

The entire infrastructure has been destroyed, so it will be at least a year until they will even be ready to begin.

Who is going to finance all the businessess that will have to start from scratch to support the city's economy?

How and where will the hundreds of thousands of workers live during the years of rebuilding?

What if other storms come in during the rebuilding?

What are they going to do with all the low income ghetto housing? Rebuild ghettos? Build nice new homes that the ghetto folks won't be able to afford?

What insurance companies will ever want to write policies here again at an affordable cost?

Just some of the hundreds of questions that have to figured out first.

Drake 08-31-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL
I'd like to know where they are going to put the debris from an entire city?

Where are they going to put an entire city of people while they rebuild?

The entire infrastructure has been destroyed, so it will be at least a year until they will even be ready to begin.

Who is going to finance all the businessess that will have to start from scratch to support the city's economy?

How and where will the hundreds of thousands of workers live during the years of rebuilding?

What if other storms come in during the rebuilding?

What are they going to do with all the low income ghetto housing? Rebuild ghettos? Build nice new homes that the ghetto folks won't be able to afford?

What insurance companies will ever want to write policies here again at an affordable cost?

Just some of the hundreds of questions that have to figured out first.

Indeed. I heard it will be at least 4 months before residents will even be able to go back to their homes (rather, what's left of their homes).

Rebuilding in the same area is just asking for another horrific and costly disaster.

Cory W 08-31-2005 06:29 PM

When they sent people to Houston, they did so knowing they would never actually return. They have limited choices and the best decision is not always the easy one.

Shove contaminated water back into the gulf? Move people to Houston?

They can't say they are never going to rebuild. It would make things worse. Think about it.

Of course, this is just my opinion.

VeriSexy 08-31-2005 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPheer
its also a major oil hub, our government is oil hungry, Bush is in the oil business, and they will do whatever it takes to keep the oil tankers coming thru New Orleans.

The New Orleans port being closed = bad news for Bush's net worth, he wont allow that.


Don't expect anything less from BUSH :Oh crap

OG LennyT 08-31-2005 07:26 PM

Ive been drinking on Bourbon St and I love party memories down there but it is not worth fixing imho.

It will happen again!

pornguy 08-31-2005 07:30 PM

For the port location alone, it is worth rebuilding.

sumphatpimp 08-31-2005 07:52 PM

you have to be fucking shitting me right?
they rebuild California with all the earthquakes, landslides and fires don't they?
what the fuck for?
all California ever gave us is wetbacks who Arnold wants to give a drivers license so they can take your job delivering pizza.
New Orleans will be rebuilt because of all the money it made for big business, and will make in the future.
it will take time and alot of money, but the smart biz people will benefit from it big time.
the smart money is just waiting for the cleanup so they can get right back in their and build a biz with goven't money and reap the profits.


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