I had originally written hypothetical numbers here ... it was more for just ease of math.

Hell, if it's 1 join or 10, it's still more than I would have gotten that day without the referral. And yes, that's assuming that the other person would send traffic, but we have to think optimistically. The person signed up for the program under someone else and they deserve the cash, now the question should remain, would they have signed up even if they weren't referred?

If the answer is no, then there ... the referral is worth it.

If the answer is yes, then fine, cut your losses.

And if they would have signed up without a referral, then why should I pay them more with them referring themselves?

There are two main reasons why one can not refer themself to a program.

First, there is no such thing as "referring oneself". That is an oxymoron.

Secondly, when you refer yourself, it is a gester of bad faith. Sponsor programs do not have referral links so that their webmasters can make an extra 15% off their own signups, else they would just payout 65% instead of 50/50.

It's completely understandable I was just pointing out that there were other instances that occur more frequently ;)

Agreed

Agreed

Agreed again, however, I see the point that NinjaScripts was trying to make. Webmasters post frequently threads titled "im signing up to bangbros someone spam me with a ref" but I've never seen a program post in a thread like that stating they'd like to remove the credit for referral. Don't get me wrong, I do not believe in signing up under your own referral to gain more revenue - I think it's extremely shady for a webmaster to do.

You really shouldn't be forced to because people shouldn't be signing up through thier own referral codes ;) - but I can tell you (as I stated before) I do not sign up under referral code specifically for the reason that it gives me another point in my argument when negotiating for higher payouts.

If an affiliate is doing good volume in your program would you raise their payout to meet or match the percentage that would be paid out to their referrer?

You dont run an adult paysite affiliate program, do you? Well you're arguing with Kristin, someone who does. IMO, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I avoid referral codes too. Also I want the program to have more money in case it needs to pay me. Why force the extra % of overhead on a new partner?

I have no problem negotiating higher payouts (referer or not) if the right amount of traffic is sent. I'd pay the referrer and raise payouts if the traffic was good.

This made me laugh ... :1orglaugh

If the program can't pay you, then they have more to worry about than referrals. ; )

You have no idea what I do. As far as you comments in the other post no they wouldn't advertise higher payouts instead because then their referral commissions would be higher also. That would be a never ending loop.

I'll tell you one thing I do, it's send signups to programs without bothering them every 5 minutes and asking for a blowjob to go with my free galleries. Should I pull up the 80000 threads you've posted in when someone asks for an affiliate code? What about the ones where someone says they'll be signing up for X sponsor and you say "as long as your signing up use this link".

You didn't make those webmasters sign up, you just spammed your link code after they had already made up their mind. So why the hell should you get the extra % for NOTHING when I'm the one sending sales. I'd say what you do is a lot worse. :2 cents:

And my apologies to Derek, this thread has gone off track ... the question wasn't whether it was right or not, it was how to stop it.

So back to my original post thought, you could do it by hand D.

You're so dumb, I'm only going to repsond to this by saying you're dumb.

50 hints to stop webmasters from reffering themselves.