Bondage has nothing to do with sex. :2 cents:

I know but is pretty extreme compared to sex.

omg hottt, love thick white girls

look at those thick white legs!!!!!!!

post the vagina pics.

Ok I give up.

I approached Eddie this morning about buying some fansign type promo stuff and other content. I've never spoken with him before today.

This is a transcript of our conversation after my initial post in this thread:



edman1978 (10:31 AM) : damn lol these girls are funny
jimthefiend (10:32 AM) : lol whys that?
edman1978 (10:32 AM) : just a bitch girl i was trying to recruit not anymore
jimthefiend (10:35 AM) : what happened?
edman1978 (10:36 AM) : 1 sec
edman1978 (10:39 AM) : this fucking dude aaronm is a trip
jimthefiend (10:39 AM) : hes a fucking horses ass
edman1978 (10:39 AM) : i dont care who works with or what friends he has on that board hes a fat fuck
jimthefiend (10:39 AM) : im not trying to slam you either
edman1978 (10:40 AM) : he doesnt understand their is models that are hard to deal with
jimthefiend (10:40 AM) : he has a lot more money to sling around, that makes them easier to handle see what i mean?
edman1978 (10:41 AM) : i dont care i dont anyones ass to make money
edman1978 (10:41 AM) : thats cool your his friend but your post makes me look bad in that thread also, your just backing him
jimthefiend (10:42 AM) : i am not his friend
i fucking HATE him and everyone knows it
edman1978 (10:42 AM) : u have respect for someone you hate?
edman1978 (10:43 AM) : fuck that if i hate you i hate everything about you
jimthefiend (10:43 AM) : yes, is that so hard to grasp?
edman1978 (10:43 AM) : lol later man im not in the mood
edman1978 (10:43 AM) : age?
jimthefiend (10:43 AM) : hunh? 36
edman1978 (10:44 AM) : ok just checking alot of dude on here are like 18 and i have no time to play games
jimthefiend (10:45 AM) : lol ok man
and you CAN respect someones talents without liking them personally man. you need to learn that asap.
specially in THIS business.
edman1978 (10:46 AM) : actually i understand that completely i work with assholes all the time thats life. I was talking on a personal note
jimthefiend (10:46 AM) : i dont know what that means, you just said you couldnt respect someone you hated
edman1978 (10:47 AM) : on a personal level
jimthefiend (10:47 AM) : lol ok
edman1978 (10:47 AM) : on a business level i dont give a fuck
edman1978 (10:47 AM) : look at donald trump look how many people hate him but he's still a billionaire
jimthefiend (10:48 AM) : youve lost me. hey i gotta run for a few.
edman1978 (10:48 AM) : speak english?
edman1978 (10:48 AM) : lol








Dude THAT is why you'll never go anywhere in this industry. You have the communications skills of a retarded 3 year old child in a coma, you're arrogant to the point of being impossible to deal with, and you refuse to learn from your mistakes.

Dealing with people the way you so obviously do is WHY you are in the ownage status you are now.


I fucking TRIED to help you.



Fuck this.

I bet you are right :upsidedow

Of course she is gonna be a little difficult to deal with. Most 19 year olds are....Hell, most models are. This is why not everybody can be a recruiter or photographer.

A girl tells you she has done bondage and you assume it was a naked thing? A lot of bondage is done fully dressed. You would know this if you had done your homework about this biz beforehand.

Calling me shady because I contacted her is a crock of shit. Yes, I did say that I would not go behind your back and that I would be happy to pay your referral fee...BUT...Then you continued to be the idiot that you are to the point where I put you on ignore. I'm not going to do any business with you. You had your chance to do things the right way and make some money but you gone done and fucked that up.

This is my favorite part....:

"You said you had your eye on this girl before me and you wanted to contact her so I said go for it. I said it doesn't mean shell work for you"

Too funny. As if you are the MySpace king and nobody else can do what you have done. Not only can I recruit off there but obviously I can do it with a little more professionalism than you can.

As I said before, there's nothing wrong with being new to this but there is when you don't have your ducks in a row and have to bullshit and stumble your way through it. In one thread you are trying to represent a potential model and in this thread you are calling her a stupid bitch.

People should know their place in this business. If you have been around for a couple of years, tried a few different things, and still don't have shit figured out then maybe you should go back to flipping burgers and leave the rest to the people who know WTF they are doing. :2 cents:

Jim, yeah we have had our problems in the past but for what it's worth...Seeing you post that just bumped you back up a notch on the respect scale. Most people who don't like me are too blinded by hate to see anything else. I appreciate that about you. Thank you.

So, you continue to bother her even though you think she is a stupid bitch? lol

As for posting your full name...I don't even know your full name. I thought you were done replying?

low level drama, move on with your lives please

I have never ONCE impuned your talents or business knowledge.

We had a PERSONAL matter that caused some PERSONAL drama and I was very happy we were both mature enough to keep the specifics of said drama off the boards.

It's water under the fucking bridge, long time since. And it was never really all that important anyway was it?

Anyway...

I'm not an idiot Aarom and I'm well aware that no one gets to where YOU are by being a clueless moron.


I'm not kissing any ass here, just stating simple fact.

Personally I think everyone should have there name under there Handle. It alot more Pro.

50 bitches!!

Big B
CECash.com

:error :error

Who the fuck you calling a bitch? Bitch?

Holy Christ this is getting amusing.


edman1978 (11:19 AM) : lol thats what you had to run out for? to run to GFY and post?
And you talk about my business and communication skills,lol I work with plenty of assholes i dont run to mommy and tell her, its business. Mommy for you being GFY same with AaronM.
edman1978 (11:21 AM) : ownage? are you 12?lol what adult says "you were owned" lol i love the highschool board GFY its so funny







This is why If I want that model I'll be talking to Aaron. You dropped the ball because you are a fucking moron. Jesus fucking Christ.


LEAVE ME ALONE. I'm not going to put you on ignore. What I am gonna do is post every juvenile noob fucking Icq message you send me.




THIS IS NOT HOW YOU DEAL WITH PEOPLE.





Note: I had to run out to pinch one off. Had spicy chicken last night :Oh crap


fucks sake

I just got off the phone with her. Sweet girl. Yes, she does talk kinda fast and shows excitement some good and some bad. Welcome to dealing with real people.

She's been lied to and jerked around by Ed so I can fully understand why she would be upset with him and the situation. Ed's only reason for contacting her this morning was to try to throw a monkey wrench into me dealing with her directly.

Now Eddie....Nobody has asked you to kiss their ass. What people would like is honest answers, knowledgeable people to deal with, and a bit of respect. If you don't show those characteristics then you are not as likely to get the same in return.

Now, piss off.

Honestly, I don't even recall the specifics at this point. I know who it involved and from what I do remember, there seemed to be a lot of miscommunication between all parties at the time. You may hate me but I honestly have no ill feeling towards you these days.

For the record, in the ICQ log you posted you mentioned that having more money makes things like this easier. Money has nothing to do with this. The girl and I discussed a lot of things but money was not one of them. Looks like I will be shooting her soon though and of course, she will be fairly compensated.

On another note, allow me to extend an olive branch here. You have my ICQ....Feel free to use it if you would like to rebuild the relationship that we were once working on. :)

Thanks Aaron, this is a great place to find out who "not" to work with.

Aaron please contact me on icq

240208

You have succulent man boobs and I want to fondle them. LMAO


I dont really hate you and I think you know that.


You're right when you say that it was all about miscommunication. That whole bit of nonsense was a cluster fuck of the first order and we'd have both come out looking like tools if we'd have made that public. Thank the baby Jesus that we didnt.



And now on an actual BUSINESS related note:

My whole point is that models, ESPECIALLY the newbie ones are lets say more malleable and easier to get interested in the whole idea if the person approaching them has a few bucks to spend on drinks, or food or whatthefuckever. Some fucking random stranger coming up and saying "Hey baby I will make you famous if you take your clothes off, and btw can I get a ride home" usually doesnt fly well.

So yeah my example was extreme, but apt. I've seen that shit happen though.



IMHO opinion THESE are the factors that are the most important when trying to bring a NEW person into the business:

Communication Skills: The girl is GOING to have questions, you need to be prepared to answer them in a way that she'll understand and feel good about.

Social Skills: A new model wants to feel special and unique. If you cant satiate those needs you'll lose her to the titty bar

Be prepared to fluff: If shes at all a potential investment, then INVEST. Take her out, show her that there IS money in this industry by SPENDING some.


This is all slated to the newbie model, but the basic concepts apply across the board.




Back to the clusterfuck of miscommunication, Ed this is where you lost that model. You were too "pimp" and beligerent.


:2 cents:

He's already owned enough

That's why you shouldn't represent a girl like that ... Look at Daniel in montreal, he got more then a dozen VERY beautiful games that are all really profetionnal ... he trained them for the camera, how to act ... that's a good agent ... he deserve the money he's making

It was over me! :1orglaugh j/k

I can't believe it! My best friend and the Fiend are making peace?

All I have to say is watch out guys, if this two quick witted people get together you are so going to be slaughtered! :1orglaugh

Oh, and I have just one question, how is this girl a coke head out of all of this? :helpme

Because Eddie is retarded and probably projecting.