I'm so glad I live in a gun free country

My gun, Luger 9mm 1933.
 

my condolences...only the bad guys have guns where you live.

don't try explaining that logic to people like that. they don't fucking get it.

and they won't fucking get it until themselves, or someone they know gets robbed, raped, or murdered by a criminal with an illegal gun.

then, all too late, they will say "why wasn't i smart enough to take steps to protect myself and my family."

(QUOTE) I totally agree with you. I do however enjoy guns on an artistic level also. like a vintage car, I like to look at them and share. I have them because I like the art of shooting, I shoot expert as well, and for me it's not about killing someone (although they can come in handy if you need to, but then again so can a vintage car, lol).

But you cannot be more right about the fact that a lot of people think they can whip em out to scare people, or that the knowledge that they have one will deter someone from fucking with them. That is a cowardly way to think. Anyone who knows me knows that the gun does not come out unless I plan on pulling the trigger....period.
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(QUOTE) In some cases you are correct...For some people, it is a man thing. They feel tough because they have a gun. But for others, the skill of target shooting a handgun and knowing about them, the different models, the look and feel of them, tactical use, safety, training etc. is what they get off on. You can usually tell who "respects" the gun and who doesn't.

Same as automobiles. Some people collect or admire cars because of the feel of driving them, the satisfaction of knowing all about them, the look and feel from an artistic view, and some guys have a cranked up engine so they can lay rubber because it makes them feel like a man.

In either case one type should not be confused with the other. A car has several purposes, transportation, to facilitate the enjoyment of driving, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner. A gun has many purposes as well, killing something, to facilitate the enjoyment of target shooting, and as a showpiece that says something about the owner.

whether something is "bad" or "good" should depend on the owners intention, not the object.

To say "guns are bad", you may as well say "Cars are bad" since they can cause someones death as well (and do so more often than guns).
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(QUOTE) my condolences...only the bad guys have guns where you live.
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(QUOTE) don't try explaining that logic to people like that. they don't fucking get it.

and they won't fucking get it until themselves, or someone they know gets robbed, raped, or murdered by a criminal with an illegal gun.

then, all too late, they will say "why wasn't i smart enough to take steps to protect myself and my family."
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ALL very well said stuff guys :thumbsup

yup, i also got 14" barrel on order.

Tim hates the guns ..and i'm not a really good shot :Oh crap ... ray has had the most training ..

So true...in most cases they just point the blame at the police, or the penal system etc...I take responsibility for the security of myself and my family the same way I take the responsibility of raising my kids into my own hands, this way I only have to depend on one person, me.

Thanks man, I try to approach things logically and realistically whenever I can.

so true bro, very well put. :thumbsup

OMG, they gonna blow each others titties off!!!

just for fun...
http://www.thevegabros.com/biggun.jpg
just for fun...

Nice, I want one, lol.

super sweet, it kinda looks like a fn fal. What exactly is it?? nice picatinny rails too. .223??? I noticed the short barrel, you gotta class3???

looks like an ak trigger guard though.

My lovely .357... I like best that I can shoot .38s out of it but it's built for the heavy feedback of the .357s so when you shoot the lesser .38s they kick is very little.

http://www.marktiarra.com/!tmp/ruger-gp100.jpg

I'll have to get a pic of my modded SKS up later. It's fun. =]

What does one of those run for?

Beretta 92...One hell of a gun, say that much :winkwink: :thumbsup

One of my personal favs.

Thats not an H&K Is it?

sweeet :thumbsup

100........ :glugglug

I'm betting that most if not all of these gun toters are American. And that is REALLY fucking SCARY!

The fact thatvso many people in one country feel the need to carry a gun is fucked up.

so cool :)

does kinda look like one. I cant tell either. need to see the other side too.
has alot of similarities to a few diff guns fn, h&k, some parts even look ak'ish.

That's pretty close to what I got...

ok, i got some old gun magazines out n started flipping through the pages.... I think this is a sig rifle. we will havta wait for ray to come back tho to tell us.... but at this point i'm goin with a sig

OK, now I'm gonna blow your mind...this rifle is actually a $29 plastic airsoft rifle with simulated bullets in the magazine, battery operated fully auto...fucked up how real it looks right? had you guys going.

it was on special at shortyusa.com and I had to grab it.

I have several real guns, and several airsoft's that we use for our little gunfights at the office...The S&W, glock 19 and Glock 27 are real.

very nice purchase

http://www.shortyusa.com/cart/viewit...L=&CA=6&kiosk=

jesus that thing looks so real, lol. i was fooled the whole way.

If I ever got a gun this would be it...
http://www.hkpro.com/USP-SD1.jpg

hmmmm.

Sometimes I wonder about you.

i don't just feel the need. i am exercising my rights.

above and beyond protection, disarming the public allows the government to remove the ultimate power of people in a democracy.

the power to over thrown when a government becomes overly corrupt.

and don't construe this literally, i'm not advocating armed insurection, unless it were totally neccesary.

Thanks.

Actually, it's a Kimber. It handles very much like the LB's Prowler. My decision to purchase the Kimber was based primarily on fit as both performed very well in a USPSA round.

I thought it was illigal to carry a concealed gun in New York

This is what our founding fathers were recognizing. The last thing a corrupt government and military wants is armed citizens. Guns are very illegal in Mexico (I know a guy that did 4 years for one) and look at the horrible government they have.

exactley. it is a fundamental right.

people often forget that it can be difficult to hit your target when you're drunk

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