I think we've all presented our points great and I see more clearly where you guys are coming from, though I still think some of my points are just a valid.

Anyway, I just saw this in the news. And it goes with what some of you said here, if you let government censor where does it stop.

So do you agree that little kids should be able to buy violent video games or did Arnie do the right thing here? Kind of funny that he would ban games when his movies are pretty darn violent too.

OCT 10, 2005

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill Friday that makes it illegal to sell or rent violent video games to minors in California.

Mmm... I see we are still rambling on about "fantasies".

As yet, there is no law against fantasies.

The potential charges are about obscene publications. Sheesh!!

You have to face the reality that we live in a world where the government wants to know everything about you, especially if you are a potential predator.

I'm sure the core reason they went for the site was to get the members list above anything else on there.

Anyone who was on that site will be subject to an investigation and their homes will be searched next, no doubt.

99.9% sure any investigator would have an interest in the content of hard drives where there is a suggestion of CP :winkwink:

It's a nice "snapshot" of any biz and a clue to what's happening or has been happening. I got a "demo" of an actual case in an EU forensics lab - It's amazing what they can recover off hard drives - they "drilled down" about 10 levels deep on a disk and recovered stuff eased/replaced a few times over.

Fucked UP

Gee..oh gosh oh shucky darn
 

Hey Alex,

I sought out this forum after getting the heads up about it elsewhere, and I have a few things for YOU (ALL) to consider:

FIRST, I am 100% AGAINST CHILD PORN (Meaning pictures, movies etc) So lets be clear.

Now... As far as pedo stories. Get a grip guy. People will read, let me shock you, what THEY want to read. Not what You in your Devine wisdom graciously allow them to read. Yes, there is plenty of pedo porn out there and some of it is distastefull (to me) - on the other hand, if you can track down the NOVELS by a man named Clayton you might surprise yourself.

Second, let me try and educate you just a little. You wrote:

>They are fucking pedos, and they will get everything they deserve. If you cannot see the difference between "Brianna Gets Molested at the Mall M/g NC" and "Taxi Driver" then you have truly missed the boat in life.<

You might be interested to know that PEDOPHILES tend to come down hard and hate child molesters MORE than your average man on the street. Of course, people like you can't (read: DO NOT WISH TO) see a difference. Far easier to keep napping and sit in judgement. You will, of course, flame me for saving this, but where do you get your infomation from? The same news media that has a vested interest in showing the one (popular) side of things. Child Molesters ought to be hung, pedophiles... well, I suppose I could try to explain it to you, but I am to tired to beat my head against the wall right now.

Suffice it to say that not all gay men bend over for it, though they may desire to. Not all lesbians eat at the Y though they may want to. And not all Pedophiles are the monsters that you and everyone like you wishes to point them out to be.

For me, I would MUCH rather see a person who is inclined to want sex with chiuldren, READ stories like this and get themselves off in private, rather than maybe doing something more...anti social.

It is very easy to scream that this that or whatever shouldn't be allowed, first amendment or no, when it is something You personally find disgusting or upsetting. Thing is though, IF something should ever start to be banned that you yourself enjoy, then boy do your types tend to whine.

The First Amendment is at it's best when it can stand for something that we DO NOT care for. It is not there to be used when everything is to our liking and it is the CONCEPT that is worth gold - not the practice.

Now, if, in that chatroom, people were trading CP, then close it down and arrest the guilty. But do not presume to TELL ME what I am ALLOWED to READ. If your problem is with content, I can point you, without any difficulty at all to several boards which glorify the rape, humiliation and brutal torture of women - and the members there do not stick to fantasy stories like "Brianna Gets Molested At The mall" but rather compare notes and techniques on the best way to find, rape, abuse and possibly kill women.

I am not pedo, though I have fantasies about underaged at times (Think Brit Spears). I also have fantasies about incest, though I am not a parent, bestiality, though I own no pets and bondage, though I have this fear of leather.

I also have, on more than one occation, imagined at length, killing my boss when I am told I must do overtime, and I am not a murderer, I have seen a pretty (adult) girl walking down the street and imagined bending her over in an alley - though I am no rapist; and just last night I watched the video remake of Dawn Of The Dead - enjoyed it incredibly, and so far as I know I am not an undead flesh eating zombie.

I don't expect you to agree with me, but just ONCE I wish I could find SOMEONE who would hear me out on the subject of pedophiles (NOT Child Molesters) and maybe stop telling me what I am allowed to read.

Minoton

tell it to Bubba, pedophile

The laws were different back then.

Oh...

When did they change and what changed ....

Figured you for one who would take the moronic way out of calling everyone who disagrees with you a pedo.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=527258

Go call this lawyer a pedo.

450 ! tune in to the radio show.

Hey Ronnie, tell me again how us liberals are the anti-government people now, and why we're wrong for wanting to keep the government out of the morality business?

You're so fucking hypocritical I'm surprised your head doesn't explode.

I think this day should be circled on everyone's calendars

tell it to bubba?
 

Is that the best you can do? I expected I would find Head In Cement Syndrom here, but I really had hoped for something just a Little more articulate...

Why can people not see that, even in the Dictionary, there is a Difference between PEDOPHILES and CHILD MOLESTERS!

PEDOPHILES by nature LOVE children. Yes, for them, that love is Also desire but most Pedophiles (the decent ones) know that it is NOT a good idea to go out and have sex with a kid. They care, not only for the obvious reasons, but also worry about hurting THE CHILD.

Now, that naturally won't be believed. Here. No, way to much effort has gone into making no distinction. There are those who like same sex. Those who like to do the nasty with animals. Those who enjoy rape torture and torment, those who like to be pissed or shit on...and Many in any of the above catagories even go so far as to DO these things...with an adult partner.

Now, your Average Pedophile... (NOT Child Molester) ... has his own type of kinky desires, he does NOT usually act on them, other than to jerk off whilst READING FANTASY about it - or in extreme cases break some laws and collect some things he shouldn't (No excuse there, I am against CP, though pro drawings) and get himself off alone. He tends to live a very guarded life and while he may look he won't touch.

Yet he is reviled by everyone, INCLUDING the above mentioned pervs. Isn't it nice, guys, that there is a certain type EVERYONE can look down upon?

Child MOLESTERS now... that is a whole nother kettle of fish. Those types I would Personally shoot. Thinking does not equal action.

Another thing to consider: Think of the number of men who have been arrested and jailed, as pedophiles, for something that they might (or might not) have done 30, 40 or 50 YEARS ago. Back when they were sixteen and sticking their hands in little 14 yr old suzy's panties.

In other words guys, if you have EVER in your lives (Think back when you were like, kids, and had open minds) played doctor, I suggest that you immeadiately go down to your nearest police station and confess - these days a case Can be made against you. You are pedophiles as you once touched a little girl.

It used to be called PLAYING DOCTOR, now it can come back to haunt you as A FELONY!

Oh, by the way, I lost MY virginity when I was 9. The girl... Ahhh she was 17. Was she a bad ol' child molester? Perhaps, if you follow the letter of the law and don't know (or bother to think about) the facts. Was I molested? Maybe. Did I care?

Yup, I wanted it again.

So, the next time you see a little girl 17 or under being kissed by a boy or man better start pointing fingers.

FANTASY DOES NOT = REALITY!

Do you think some Intelligent conversation is possible?

Minoton :2 cents:

and then he goes and ruins the moment by calling everyone a pedo. I should have known better :1orglaugh

So, you don't care to explain ... ????