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MikeHawk 10-16-2005 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Halcyon
rss is P O W E R. And 2HP is a mad genius.

Well fucking done.

Hal....you took the words right out of my mouth...... :thumbsup

2HousePlague 10-16-2005 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeHawk
Hal....you took the words right out of my mouth...... :thumbsup

Flattered, Mike -- but I know my place -- :jester

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95...terblaster.jpg


2hp

BradM 10-16-2005 01:29 AM

You need to start using a REGULAR FUCKING FONT when you type. I still can't read anything you ever say because you insist on typing like a moron, underlining the wrong words for emphasis and picking the worst fonts available.

PS. RSS.. welcome to 5 years ago in mainstream.

2HousePlague 10-16-2005 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM
You need to start using a REGULAR FUCKING FONT when you type. I still can't read anything you ever say because you insist on typing like a moron, underlining the wrong words for emphasis and picking the worst fonts available.

PS. RSS.. welcome to 5 years ago in mainstream.

http://www.young-voice.org/images/head_in_hands.jpg


2hp

OzMan 10-16-2005 02:54 AM

Don't be fooled into thinking RSS will make the world a better place.

RSS IS EVIL :mad: >>>>>>PROOF

and so is MILF

Lt. Space Dingo 10-16-2005 04:52 AM

you are the bridge!

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9638/cool3gh.jpg

looking good everywhere I click Jack!

Serge Litehead 10-16-2005 05:14 AM

This what bugs me for a long time, why don't sponsors use RSS/XML for free hosted content delivery - banners, gallereis, text discriptions, reviews, profiles, etc, etc..? whould make life so much easier.
Free sites (tgps, review sites, blogs) could be automatically updated as soon as fresh content released. Am i wrong?

poppet 10-16-2005 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
It's a fucking BLOG! And the other site is a Mambo CMS.

Fuh-huck, don't E-ven get me started...


2hp

So? didn't matter in my case.

But the important thing is I'm not bitter about it. :1orglaugh

poorwebmaster 10-16-2005 08:37 AM

Good info....good post....

2HousePlague 10-16-2005 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan
Don't be fooled into thinking RSS will make the world a better
place. RSS IS EVIL :mad: >>>>>>PROOF
and so is MILF


Indeed, John, those examples are horrible. But you can't judge the value of a technology by the worst things it produces.

To quote a friend I miss, "That would be silly."


TO THE GROUP: Hi, my name is Jack and I'm a sucker for a comeback story.
http://www.huntington.org/LibraryDiv...Seabiscuit.jpg

Okay. Well, I didn't really start this thread to champion the whole of RSS. so much. I'm just a guy trying to sell a service that happens to run on RSS and doesn't really have a whole lot to do with RSS beyond that.

RSSEXTICKERS is a nice little idea, available at a moment when I believe it can be used to make some money and raise a level of convenience for some people. Period.

Now 'scuse me while I go shoot some hoops for a little while... http://gorgeous-wallpaper.com/AVATAR...PIG/basuke.gif
http://gorgeous-wallpaper.com/AVATAR...IG/akanboo.gif Fuck, you're STILL here... I mean it man, I have no interest in explaining the present significance of RSS on this board. If my service makes sense to you, subscribe. If not, save it for therapy. I, for one, have more important things to do. Now scram! ...

http://gorgeous-wallpaper.com/AVATAR...G/football.gif ... "go awaaay" http://gorgeous-wallpaper.com/AVATAR...PIG/fukkin.gif "[whistles]" http://gorgeous-wallpaper.com/AVATAR...PIG/nebuta.gif "UUUUUUUUUGH!" http://gorgeous-wallpaper.com/AVATAR...IG/setuboo.gif

"Okay, fine. If it's all the same to you, I'd like to dictate from the tub... "

http://gorgeous-wallpaper.com/AVATAR...G/boo_yoku.gif Why RSS is going to Change EVERYTHING very soon
One of you wrote in one of the threads that appeared responsive to this one... [Don't you just love those threads -- "I just happen to be talking about the same thing over here...in a derivative misinformed rebuttal that has nothing at all to do with what you wrote" -- dude, whatever]...anyway well, this fella compared RSS to Pointcast. Now, that was very silly.

Here's why:

The famously brief success of Pointcast back in the 90's left us with a number of business lessons, an inconclusive first (and very early) impression of Data Subscription, and the annoying buzz phrase "Push" Technology, which immediately had to be balanced against "Pull" Technology.

Once Pointcast was extinct, and people lacked for an actual example they could study and think about, the "Push" and "Pull" lost their high-tech cache, and very soon nobody knew what they were supposed to mean anymore, beyond their prior significance on the doors of the world.

Then, of course, the bubble burst, and the last thing anybody wanted to think about was a company that had failed before the bubble burst.

For those who don't remember or were too young, Pointcast gave you ad-subsidized, user-configurable content (news, movie listings, horoscopes, weather, etc.) to the desktop. It ran on a large client-side application you had to download.

Millions did.

Pointcast failed not because it wasn't popular. It was IMMENSELY popular. It failed because it choked up all the bandwidth of corporate networks, and brought traffic to a crawl. CTO's told CEOs who told HR Directors who told employees that Pointcast was as bad as a virus, and you'd be fired if you had it installed on your desktop. Well, that'll put a damper on demand.

In the dust cloud of Pointcast's demise, something else was largely missed -- for a "Push" technology, there sure was a FUCKLOAD of pulling going on -- :)

Sad cliche: too right, too soon.

Folks sure do like to suck a feed, that much was clear.

RSS is not new. So, why now? In a word: blogs. I could write apout blogs all day.

Some days I do.

I blog about blogs.

The most important thing that blogs are doing, and what you need to register for purposes of the presemt argument, is they are re-distributing power.

As usual, when that hapens [harrumph], some folks are in denial. Yet happening it is, and with sweeping implications for all of online advertising and most of the ways business is done online. In this new order, blogs have clout. Google loves them. More than that, for the ways in which the blogosphere is also a network within but separate from the Internet, vast new capabilities and strengths are being perfected there.

How the blogosphere and the Open Source Movement have brought us closer to the Democratic Ideal is worthy of a separate treatment. But, for purposes of the present argument, note simply that everybody is getting a blog, and they are doing it for expression, for money, or both.

Meanwhile, as the "infrastructure" of the blogosphere was being built and conceived, RSS was also evolving and improving. If you're wondering how RSS got so well integrated into the blogosphere and other Open Source projects, I can tell you. Because it was all the same people -- Develeopers, influencers, programmers, idealists, Net-Socialists. Basically, people who believe the things the Web was supposed to be about were very correct, and who see now an opportunity to make a change for the better.

Get ready for the most important sentence of this post:

The public will consume RSS feeds aggresively >> because feed providers are going to make them extremely attractive >> because they REALLY want people to suck their feeds >> becase sucking on someone's feed shall constitute a "vote" for them, that will raise their Trust score >> at a time when Google is shifting emphasis from [formulaic] Relevancy to [subjective] Trust, and links you buy are becoming far less influential to your PR than links you are given.

The always unimpeachable Google Math rigor need not protest the subjective change at all. Math rigor remains intact, as Google ceases throwing computing resources at eluding and chasing SE spammers, and focuses on bringing democracy to PR via statistics.

That was long and technical...

The layman will blog and consume RSS because it's fun and participatory.

Pros will do it to make money and be bigshots.

Corporations will do it because they have to, because their customers are knocking on the blogdoor.

FINAL WORD ABOUT RSS:

What is RSS? | RSS is --to whittle it all the way down to ESSENCE -- an agreement between parties to do something a certain way, consistently.

O-ho!

RSS IS the Internet. Choose any acronym you like -- you can't separate the central idea from any of its implementations -- :)


2hp

bangman 10-16-2005 09:30 AM

Bump. Excellent thread.

selena 10-16-2005 08:30 PM

This is a very cool concept, Jack. :thumbsup

I like how it allows you to customize the appearance of the flow of information.

Love to see this type of innovation from a JayMan Cash affiliate!

And, I might add, Raven Riley never looked so good going down as she does going up. :winkwink:

llporter 10-16-2005 09:12 PM

great stuff even on the 2nd page!

RageSilverton 10-16-2005 09:59 PM

I think RSS Feeds are very useful. An example of a unique way to get your message to your customers is by using RSS feeds in toolbars. One company doing this is Effective Brand (http://www.effectivebrand.com). They allow anyone to create their own toolbar for their visitors. I quickly built a toolbar to show how this could be done. I put the link in my sig (http://bittorrent.ourtoolbar.com). This toolbar pulls information from several different torrent tracker sites. Very useful for the users but also allows the opportunity to develop customer loyalty.

Just my 2 cents.

2HousePlague 10-17-2005 10:39 AM

Combining the terms "RSS" and "Blogging" puts New Mexico Vet on page 1 for NEWS.

Story

I don't care what anybody here thinks is relevant or newsworthy. But, if you disagree with Google, you're an idiot -- :2 cents:

It has NEVER been this easy for the oft-marginalized to get visibility.


2hp

2HousePlague 10-17-2005 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena
This is a very cool concept, Jack. :thumbsup

I like how it allows you to customize the appearance of the flow of information.

Love to see this type of innovation from a JayMan Cash affiliate!

And, I might add, Raven Riley never looked so good going down as she does going up. :winkwink:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Kevsh 10-17-2005 10:56 AM

Every few months (used to be every few days) someone comes along and claims that [insert latest 'net craze here] will be the next "killer app". 99.3 times out of a hundred they are wrong.

RSS is very cool. It is a great technology. It is also *too* good.
It is already being manipulated by spammers and along with blogs, RSS feeds are being saturated everywhere you turn.

The average human who desires RSS feeds are being more and more selective about what they receive. They don't want a ticker bloated with useless, spammy headlines. They want relevance.

As more and more feeds are produced, the less eyeballs to go around (if that doesn't make sense, read paragraph above) and obviously, the less resulting traffic and sales. This leads to the "fringe" feed producers not wasting their time.

I absolutely agree that RSS is great for "us" but with everyone jumping on the bandwagon to deliver this to the end user, I can see another 'net craze just falling short of the killer app moniker.

Right now, I'm enjoy the short-term gains from pushing feeds but not obsessing over it. Been there done that.

:pimp

2HousePlague 10-17-2005 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
Every few months (used to be every few days) someone comes along and claims that [insert latest 'net craze here] will be the next "killer app". 99.3 times out of a hundred they are wrong.

RSS is very cool. It is a great technology. It is also *too* good.
It is already being manipulated by spammers and along with blogs, RSS feeds are being saturated everywhere you turn.

The average human who desires RSS feeds are being more and more selective about what they receive. They don't want a ticker bloated with useless, spammy headlines. They want relevance.

As more and more feeds are produced, the less eyeballs to go around (if that doesn't make sense, read paragraph above) and obviously, the less resulting traffic and sales. This leads to the "fringe" feed producers not wasting their time.

I absolutely agree that RSS is great for "us" but with everyone jumping on the bandwagon to deliver this to the end user, I can see another 'net craze just falling short of the killer app moniker.

Right now, I'm enjoy the short-term gains from pushing feeds but not obsessing over it. Been there done that.

:pimp


1. Webmasters need to put "sponsor" content on their pages.

2., RSS does that better than anything yet so far.

3. Users will decide what web sites are filled with crap (spam) and which pages and sites they want to bookmark, same as they always have.

4. If you think this is a "flash in the pan" explain Google's $140 million investment in the technology -- NEWS

5. Oh, my gosh -- THE TOP NEWS SEARCH RESULTS ARE ALL BLOGS!



2hp

Ramos 10-17-2005 05:23 PM

Good Stuff 2HP
I've learned quite a bit from you Bro! Thanks
.... :pimp

Ice 12-05-2005 10:40 AM

Just read this now... wow Jack thanks for a fantastic post

kmanrox 12-05-2005 11:14 AM

i can't for the life of me figure out how to add someone's RSS feed to a blog... i have a test blog on blogspot and they dont tell me shit.... and no its not adult, and no its not for profit, at least yet... any links to an easy tutorial?

2HousePlague 12-05-2005 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox
i can't for the life of me figure out how to add someone's RSS feed to a blog... i have a test blog on blogspot and they dont tell me shit.... and no its not adult, and no its not for profit, at least yet... any links to an easy tutorial?


icq me -- 196767065

there are a few ways -- check out http://pornbizblog.com (the one i made for the http://rshblogs.com promo) -- that template has the reader built-in -- as you can see i am running a feed from baddog's http://pradult.com adult news blog.


2hp

Hardlinks 12-05-2005 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox
i can't for the life of me figure out how to add someone's RSS feed to a blog... i have a test blog on blogspot and they dont tell me shit.... and no its not adult, and no its not for profit, at least yet... any links to an easy tutorial?

You need a reader or aggregator to run the site.

I like magpierss. Easily configurable and once its up on your server its just pasting the code to where ever you want it shown.

Machete_ 12-05-2005 11:28 AM

RSS is just a tool you fucking noob.. it have been here for years, and we have been using it to syndicate content across THOUSANDS of sites. SYNDICATION is what you should be talking about, not one of the protocols.

Its like saying "water is fun" when what you really is trying to say is "I like surfing the waves"

tASSy 12-05-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
If it hadn't been for being able to watch tASSy go by -- again and again -- I wouldn't've made it -- :winkwink:

Thank you for your friendship -- :)


whoo hoo! glad to be of inspiration, rockin' job 2hp!!!
:thumbsup


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