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Dagwolf 10-23-2005 01:29 PM

OMG, people are going to see my freesite members' sections for free!
Oh yeah, they're free. OMG what if someone hacks into my free galleries? This monster must be stopped!

CDSmith 10-23-2005 01:31 PM

Next on Fox: "When extortionists go stupid"

Following this commercial break...

(see sig)

Ciao bella 10-23-2005 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angermanagement
this dude fucking owns you smut peddling pieces of garbage

We dont own anyone, just their members area. Have been doing this for awhile and developed a substantial following. We are the future of the porn industry untill the paysite owners can no longer afford their bandwidth fees.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc
Great, he gave an example of pennywize, which is about the easiest system to get through.. This should be a great educator on why people shouldn't use pennywize.

PW leaks = Money in the bank.

Strongbox isn't much better. Perhaps they should hire some of our clients who are students at numerous universities.

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Quality
I think its funny that he mentions strongbox in the same breath as pennywize. Pennywize was hacked years years ago. Posing 5 year old info is too funny.

If current information was posted, Strongbox or Pennywise reps would ajust their code. We are not on Pennywise or Strongboxes payroll to offer them security advice. Its their product not ours, we just bypass their once tough security.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc
Yup..

I have to admit I get some brute force attacks and pw leaks on strongbox but it just eats that shit up and spits it back out. I have mine set to block after 3 failed attemps, if it seems to be member we go ahead and contact them with what they are doing wrong..

3 attempts per is difficult for a fresh crack. Thats when our prior successful hits on a site are used. Prior successful hits only need 1 try. Constantly contacting members over log on problems is annoying. Your customers will think you run a unsecure micky mouse operation.
Teentopanga finally gave up after realizing their OCR wasn't as secure as they thought. Some sites completely gave up on updating security. After security has been breached is when you realize you wasted $$.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
so this guy must charge access to these forums or something? otherwise, why do it? we should just get some guys to hack his passwords and give them out just like he does to us. lol.

Most of our clients are university students. They do not have the money to pay the outragous fees most paysites charge. Memberships accelerated quickly between universities when they share the gold mine they've found. Some students major in computer science. They enjoy finding holes in once thought secure code. We offer a service to them while maintaining a lucrative business.

Dildozer 10-23-2005 03:06 PM

Ciao Bella is just another example of the retards and crooks on this site and in this industry.
God what a waste of talent if it's real, that fag will be jailbait soon enough

crockett 10-23-2005 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Hi surfer, how do you do

angermanagement = AMP

just a wild guess :1orglaugh He can't stay away

Dirty F 10-23-2005 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella
We dont own anyone, just their members area. Have been doing this for awhile and developed a substantial following. We are the future of the porn industry untill the paysite owners can no longer afford their bandwidth fees.

:1orglaugh

Someone ban the kid already. You have to be 18 to post here.

Young 10-23-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella
We dont own anyone, just their members area. Have been doing this for awhile and developed a substantial following. We are the future of the porn industry untill the paysite owners can no longer afford their bandwidth fees.

How are you the future of the industry? When webmasters can no longer afford their bandwidth fees as you suggest there won't be anymore content to steal....leaving no future.

Please go run along and play little kiddy.

I wouldn't be suprised if you post here at GFY under a different nick.

Markit 10-23-2005 03:26 PM

....
:glugglug :glugglug

nofx 10-23-2005 03:32 PM

this thread rocks

ThumbLord 10-23-2005 03:52 PM

quote:
nofx: this thread rocks
unquote


you sir are an asshole 4 sure, again, the company that hired you must be insane as in, I was ( was in, as I am no longer ) an affliate once, but heh .............. am I the only only one who took down the links ?

just wondering ( again )

ThumbLord 10-23-2005 03:57 PM

I think the mods should have banned angermanagement by now if I am NOT mistaken

TheDoc 10-23-2005 03:58 PM

Quote:

If current information was posted, Strongbox or Pennywise reps would ajust their code. We are not on Pennywise or Strongboxes payroll to offer them security advice. Its their product not ours, we just bypass their once tough security.

3 attempts per is difficult for a fresh crack. Thats when our prior successful hits on a site are used. Prior successful hits only need 1 try. Constantly contacting members over log on problems is annoying. Your customers will think you run a unsecure micky mouse operation.
Teentopanga finally gave up after realizing their OCR wasn't as secure as they thought. Some sites completely gave up on updating security. After security has been breached is when you realize you wasted $$.

No members area software will EVER 100% protect the member areas from brute force attacks or password leaks. It will always happen.

We don't have many issues with login problems. If they are having problems already it's not like they know I have them blocked. The 10 seconds it takes to pull up the record and assist the member is worth it. I have almost no login complaints because I assist them first. Having it set lower allows me to assist them faster.

With Strongbox you can try once, but after your proxy/ip has tried 3 usernames incorrectly it blocks your IP. So each IP only has 3 chances before you are blocked from the system. It's very very easy to spot if it's the real member having problems, a real pw leak (which is very rare), or a brute force attack, which I can ignore.

If I happen to get a pw leak, strongbox emails me, and in a click of a button a new pw is set and emailed to the member.



Password sites are only a threat to people that don't have software protection.. The BW cost they create can be made up by putting some ads on your 401/bad pages or redirect known bad usernames to a fake members area, spam page, 404 page, etc.

boner 2.0 10-23-2005 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord
I think the mods should have banned angermanagement by now if I am NOT mistaken

he's gone. look at the first post on this page :thumbsup

pubenemy 10-23-2005 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquireMD
where's fris when you need him?


Fris is locked out of gfy, hes on irc tho! :thumbsup

ThumbLord 10-23-2005 04:09 PM

boner 2.0 sorry did not see that, thanks !

dtoolbox 10-23-2005 04:22 PM

good morning and evening gfy :pimp

polle54 10-23-2005 04:37 PM

Stfu bella you insignificant little cun.t

You will not make as much as a dime on this shit, and if you look through this tread you will see that the only positive response comes from your fake nicks....

Hope you will spend the better part of your life in jail.

Regards.

u-Bob 10-23-2005 05:14 PM

there's no money in porn, tgps, mgps, free sites, seo, forums, extorsion,...

PimpDaddyPants 10-23-2005 05:16 PM

Looks like someone who doesnt like to pay us for our memberships lol

lets nuke 'em

adultchica 10-23-2005 05:17 PM

ass holes ripping us off

adultchica 10-23-2005 05:18 PM

100 ass holes ripping us off

quantum-x 10-23-2005 05:31 PM

Ok, i'll say this in big text so you can understand.

THE PEOPLE (YOUR MEMBERS) ON YOUR SITES WOULD NEVER PAY FOR PORN ANYWAY.
THEREFORE, NO LOSS OF MONEY.


It's the same w/ the music industry bitching about lost profits. People who steal CDs are never going to purchase, so it's not a fucken lost profit.

The only thing sites stand to lose is bandwidth, and 1) it's cheap, 2) they'll notice, so 3) You're a fuckwit.

sickbeatz 10-23-2005 05:31 PM

Hey Kid,
To get user account passwords you'll need a dictionary file, and a lot of extra spare time on your hands. But that is assuming that you have the contents of the .htaccess file which you don't have access to.

You get no cookie.. Now go fuck your mother and have a beautiful day.

PS: Cached session ID's don't include plain-text passwords -- infact, they don't even include MD5/RSA or whatever the server's password encryption inside of the cookie. This is also assuming that you're actually able to hijack a session id -- which you aren't. Maybe if you have some kind of authoritive control for the routing tables belonging to the ISP of an existing member to your target paysite -- But then again, that person would have to be recently logged into the site for there to be any kind of cache.

TetsuoIronMan 10-23-2005 05:34 PM

I thought GFY had lost its touch but now after a weekend of ashley brookes and paysite crackers things are back to normal. :winkwink:

detoxed 10-23-2005 05:44 PM

Owned . ..

Jimbo 10-23-2005 05:54 PM

his forum seems pretty fucking big, I want his url, I got a polish proxy and an afganisthan email to register on his forum and tell them that the whole adult industry is going down cause of them and that cause of them some child can't eat. NOT

Jimbo 10-23-2005 05:56 PM

the smart paysites are actually making money from these idiots hacking passwords by creating completly defferent members area just for them to think they hacked into but with advertising link exchanges (to switch the underage visitors for better ones) and shitty content.

Satisfaction 10-23-2005 06:06 PM

ahh all the drama of GFY!

tranza 10-23-2005 06:20 PM

Damn! Why didn't anyone thought about this before??

You really think you came up with a brilliant original idea, don't you?

tranza 10-23-2005 06:20 PM

Damn! Why didn't anyone thought about this before??

You really think you came up with a brilliant origianl idea, don't you?

Apollo 10-23-2005 06:27 PM

lol...this is the funniest shit I've read in a long time.

tranza 10-23-2005 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x
Ok, i'll say this in big text so you can understand.

THE PEOPLE (YOUR MEMBERS) ON YOUR SITES WOULD NEVER PAY FOR PORN ANYWAY.
THEREFORE, NO LOSS OF MONEY.


It's the same w/ the music industry bitching about lost profits. People who steal CDs are never going to purchase, so it's not a fucken lost profit.

The only thing sites stand to lose is bandwidth, and 1) it's cheap, 2) they'll notice, so 3) You're a fuckwit.

Game, set and match.

Next!

:thumbsup

Jimbo 10-23-2005 06:33 PM

Actually they do. Just ask Lensman or Topbucks, I beleived they paid Leo Radvinsky (ultrapasswords.com) for a long time with his fake paysites.

BlackCrayon 10-23-2005 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young
How are you the future of the industry? When webmasters can no longer afford their bandwidth fees as you suggest there won't be anymore content to steal....leaving no future.

Please go run along and play little kiddy.

I wouldn't be suprised if you post here at GFY under a different nick.

exactly what i was going to post. if paysites become no longer profitable because of shut in geek university students there simply will be no more paysites to hack into. what a dumb fuck.

High Quality 10-23-2005 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x
Ok, i'll say this in big text so you can understand.

THE PEOPLE (YOUR MEMBERS) ON YOUR SITES WOULD NEVER PAY FOR PORN ANYWAY.
THEREFORE, NO LOSS OF MONEY.


It's the same w/ the music industry bitching about lost profits. People who steal CDs are never going to purchase, so it's not a fucken lost profit.

The only thing sites stand to lose is bandwidth, and 1) it's cheap, 2) they'll notice, so 3) You're a fuckwit.

I really disagree with this.

The record industry as well as the adult industry does lose money from stealing / trading. There is no doubt about it. BUT - Does it lose a HUGE %? Not really. If I don't wanna spend $15 on a CD and I can find it for free, great. If I couldn't it for free I might not get it. I'd have to then weigh $15 with how much I like that song. Regardless, One's audio collection would be far smaller simply because every song / CD is NOT worth $15, even if it is good. Same with porn.

Dirty F 10-23-2005 06:59 PM

You can stop posting now. He went to bed hours ago. Has to go to school tomorrow.

Ciao bella 10-24-2005 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young
How are you the future of the industry? When webmasters can no longer afford their bandwidth fees as you suggest there won't be anymore content to steal....leaving no future.

Please go run along and play little kiddy.

I wouldn't be suprised if you post here at GFY under a different nick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
exactly what i was going to post. if paysites become no longer profitable because of shut in geek university students there simply will be no more paysites to hack into. what a dumb fuck.

Please re-read what I posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella
We dont own anyone. Have been doing this for awhile and developed a substantial following. We are the future of the porn industry UNTILL the paysite owners can no longer afford their bandwidth fees.

The problem is you do not comprehend what you read. The key word is 'UNTILL'! Thank you for your lack of comprehension, its uneducated site owners that make our job much easier. :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickbeatz
Hey Kid,
To get user account passwords you'll need a dictionary file, and a lot of extra spare time on your hands. But that is assuming that you have the contents of the .htaccess file which you don't have access to.

You get no cookie.. Now go fuck your mother and have a beautiful day.

PS: Cached session ID's don't include plain-text passwords -- infact, they don't even include MD5/RSA or whatever the server's password encryption inside of the cookie. This is also assuming that you're actually able to hijack a session id -- which you aren't. Maybe if you have some kind of authoritive control for the routing tables belonging to the ISP of an existing member to your target paysite -- But then again, that person would have to be recently logged into the site for there to be any kind of cache.

Why would need a dictionary list when stripping your billing companies logs give us exactly what we are looking for. Your billing companies are your weakness. If your billing companies secure their logs, googles cache offers basically the same thing.

Really? We must be extremely lucky obtaining all the plain-text user:passes we've been getting. Its clear you're not familier with todays programs. Perhaps reading a book?
Wake up singor, its not 1997 anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo
the smart paysites are actually making money from these idiots hacking passwords by creating completly defferent members area just for them to think they hacked into but with advertising link exchanges (to switch the underage visitors for better ones) and shitty content.

That is fascinating! 'Young' does not have proper comprehension of the english language by putting words into their true meaning. 'sickbeatz' proclaims raping googles cache doesn't supply plain-text users & passes and were idiots being redirected. ROTFLMFAO! :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x
Ok, i'll say this in big text so you can understand.

THE PEOPLE (YOUR MEMBERS) ON YOUR SITES WOULD NEVER PAY FOR PORN ANYWAY.
THEREFORE, NO LOSS OF MONEY.


It's the same w/ the music industry bitching about lost profits. People who steal CDs are never going to purchase, so it's not a fucken lost profit.

The only thing sites stand to lose is bandwidth, and 1) it's cheap, 2) they'll notice, so 3) You're a fuckwit.


Ostello signor? Pleased to read you've found a outlet to vent your frustration seeing you wouldn't be able to stop us anyway. Once you're out of business, were out of business. Untill that day comes, saddle up cowboy. Filet mignon to mac & cheese dinners. Elaborate vacations to sitting in the back yard soaking your feet in a kiddy pool. Stupido!

Uno thing came from my visit to this intellectually stimulating forum.
a. have never met more derelicts gathered in 1 place my entire life! Its no wonder your your members area gets hammered.


Signor Lightspeed, mi dispiace to hear non pił Jordan Capri. She was a popular request of our clients.

Bravo the porn industry, bravo!

Ciao bella

Dirty Dane 10-24-2005 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella
The problem is you do not comprehend what you read. The key word is 'UNTILL'! Thank you for your lack of comprehension, its uneducated site owners that make our job much easier. :1orglaugh

Educated people spell with 1 'L' :error :upsidedow

Dirty F 10-24-2005 08:08 AM

How was school?

Wait. what do i hear...

Oh its your mommy calling, dinner is ready.

reynold 10-24-2005 08:17 AM

these fucking paysites are actually making money from these morons hacking passwords by creating different members area just for them to think they hacked into but with advertising link exchanges and shitty content.


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