![]() |
Can I get a Free Pass? thanx
|
i'm not going to say too much on GFY ......... UNLESS I am forced to ....... but i am going to say this. NOBODY in this industry has EVER had more done for them than what was done for Ashley 'Brookes', by me and my partner John Emslie, for absolutely nothing in return other than for her to live by an original agreement between her and I3 months ago - a pledge of time and commitment to her 'business' from the time we began the journey - and a modicum of gratitude.
To those who would/will point a finger at either me and John for any actions please remember that in the 6 months following the launch of AshCash there was little to be seen of Ashley on GFY or any other board nor was she available to affiliates on ICQ - despite my frequent urging, scolding and outright frustration. Why did Ashley 'Brookes' disappear from GFY and ICQ - i heard the question over and over. And I lied. The reason Ashley 'Brookes' disappeared is because she had what she wanted - she avoided her affiliates and 'friends' because she didn't need them any longer. She has reappeared on ICQ and GFY during the past week for one reason only - because she needs people in this industry again. You make your own conclusions. |
man I had to pull Nikki Nevada links too, this is where it ends. What a shame.
|
so we can expect some chargebacks since surfers will not be allowed to log back in?
|
MY POV on this.
Mutt isnt to blame for this... we all seen this before. Mutt has helped her and he has helped others. -JDL UnOFFICIAL GFY POV Poster |
A real shame
|
yeah to be honest i wont be sending traffic to the new system either, enough with the changes
|
Quote:
|
Sorry to hear about this Mutt... I know how it is. Well.... not the switching processors part... but the model headaches :disgust
|
Quote:
Never bite the hand that feeds you. |
links pulled and will not go back up
|
this will explain more - graphically. i urged this girl - who despite every bit of frustration I have endured for 12 months is a BRIGHT girl even though some of her 'friends' claim she isn't - she is smart. I urged her from the moment AshCash launched 7 months ago almost to seize the 'opportunity of a lifetime' - I was here to help her 24/7 - and would continue to be. The difference with me and everybody in Ashley's life is I expected BETTER of her - I don't treat people as 'girls' 'nude models' - I took her as she came from Day 1 - an adult, she is NOT a child.
Ashley could have walked from this industry in 2 to 3 years with a small fortune - to help herself, her brother and her mother but Ashley plays ONLY by 'Ashley's Rules' - the world according to Ashley. Remember - this is NOT the first time around for Ashley - there's another webmaster here with his own story. I was there for that story. http://www.darklifeimages.com/ab_alexa.jpg |
i might take some heat for this.. but a basic timeline for a solo girl site
1.) they get explained how much they will get paid and what is involved in running a solo site and they are extremely happy and eager to work 2.) while shooting the initial startup content they are happy because they are working a lot and getting paid per shoot (if they are working on a per shoot/basis and not 50/50) 3.) after shooting the initial launch content...they start to get impatient during visa approval and site launch 4.) when they realize its not a get rich overnight scheme and people they know stumble across the site, they demand to have the site taken down and expect you to eat the loss even though you explained to them that eventually people they know WOULD see the site 5.) the model flakes, and the producer hopefully was smart enough to get 2 years of content pre-shot so the site can continue 6.) model is bitter the end... taadddaaaaaaaa |
Links removed.
|
Edit, maybe I should read the whole thread first.....
|
Quote:
|
So ashley, why exactly did you leave Mutt? Want to make more money? Remember this is the second time you left a "program" webmasters remember this, and it won't be easy to convince them to put their links backup...I am for example "done" with this
|
Quote:
her friends are putting it in her head that she should be making a lot more money because the site is all about her.. and she thinks she will make more money now that she knows what to do from watching how mutt gained affiliates? |
BIG mistake by Ash in my opinion.
|
many people aren't aware still of what went on between me and Ashley. I have not made a DIME off this girl, and never will regardless what I do with content I own of her. Every single minute, hour, day, week, month - an entire YEAR - invested in this girl - was for HER benefit - and I hoped for her family's benefit.
|
This is basically her 3rd strike, I'm not going to be putting up the new links..
|
Quote:
|
Maybe she can rename her site to ashley broke when she has no affiliates...
|
Quote:
You were not a equal partner? wow |
mutt fix your sig!!
and.. i hope everybody learned something from this mess! |
hope everything works out
|
Quote:
Ashley when I met her was under contract to another webmaster/program - TNA Cash owned by Aron Simpson - I told her from Day 1 that I could not be financially involved in her website because I would never step on another webmaster's toes for my own gain. |
if anybody is put out financially by this Ashley has MORE than enough money to make things right by you. Her affiliate program launched on April 7th of this year - as of a week ago when I had my last look at her processor stats she had made NET $110,000.
|
Quote:
No good deed goes un punished Sorry it ended up like this for you |
Damn...sounds like a crazy situation. Good luck to the both of you. I hope it ends up working out for Ash in the end even though it seems like she may have made the wrong decision.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
After finally making the decision to go my own way, which was a very hard decision - I have had to look back at all the things you really did on the business side and I'm very greatful...but I need to be on my own and really learn and understand what it takes to make a site workable. I have talked to a lot of people and have recieved a lot of great advice from all of you - and thank you guys so much! When all this started, I didn't really see how much work was really going on. Mutt, I would love to find some way to repay you for all your hard work. Maybe I can send you all my exit traffic or something - but I really need to start looking at this as a business and taking care of it myself. Yes, Mutt, you built a great foundation, but we know that's not the issue. I would be happy to discuss ways I can help you as a repayment in strictly a business manner. AshCash and AshleyBrookes are now strictly under my control. Something like this will never happen again. I am really excited to work with those of you that stay with me and look forward to having fun coming up with new things to help you guys make more money! My ICQ will be open to all affiliates, I'd love to hear your ideas on what you need to make more money. |
Quote:
|
Fuck.
Mutt did more for that girl than I would do for my own children. This is a shame, even though it was inevitable. Sorry buddy. |
Thank you for once again reminding me why I do not and will not push single girl sites.
|
Quote:
Ouch, sounds like a solo girl getting a mighty big head :Oh crap |
Quote:
MUTT Rules. He has done an awesome job in everything he does. his record and work speak for itself. Models Flake everytime. its never a question of "if" is just a question of "when". They all think that opening their legs is what makes the money... its not. Its about 20% of the equation and none of them seem to want to accept that they are just a commodity and there are many more like them willing to do the same. I don't doubt that Mutt tried to reason with her but has been here long enough now that she has reached that point and got "star sick" and thinks she has it all figured out... just because 100 lovesick, over the hill, married with children slobs are sending her e-mails from their trailer, promising her the world and telling her how beautiful she is every month. |
So I don't get it? Does content need to be paid for or what? Isn't something missing here?
If the content is hers why can't she use it? |
You webmasters/affiliates....sometimes have to take the good with the bad, life in general isn't perfect.
It's getting harder and harder to find girls that are willing to be all over the net. I would say there's alot more to this story, from both parties...that you will not hear. Sales are up and sales are down, if you sold cars...would it be busier in the summer or winter? You just don't know. I don't think posting what she made in 7 months time was very cool. :-( But good luck to both of you. |
Ashley,
When you first came out with Ash Cash and I saw your posts, I had high hopes for you. You sounded like one heck of a bright girl. But this decision/idea is one of the least bright ones I have seen in a long time. Good luck. |
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:03 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123