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I have no idea what circumstances led to her not having insurance, but I would not be making an insulting comment toward someone in her situation right now. Perhaps you could have said: I'm sorry she got hurt. I'm sorry she didn't have medical insurance. ... Oh, and yes, starting a new thread to make your point is a bit arrogant too ... :2 cents: |
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That saves me writing out my thoughts. |
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throwing my asshole comments in..
even though I feel for her tremendously, having a parent who has suffered severe head injuries...before asking for $$ ..ask yourself this question. Would Nikki help any one of us with a cash donation if we were seriously injured? Her friends know the answer..therefore they should not be offended that complete strangers are questioning motives here. I have had quite a few friends in the hospital with traumatic injuries.. payment was never brought up..except with the parents if the person is unable to make the decision themselves...there is financial aid out there for those that take the time to use it. |
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unlike you |
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Apparently she is in very bad shape right now so at the very least people can be respectful by not insulting her. From what I can tell, she didn't ask anyone to post here on her behalf. And the poor girl's getting flamed and insulted and obviously, in no position to defend herself. All I was saying was, perhaps be a little less judgemental in your criticism. Or, at least stick to criticizing the manner in which the request for help had been handled and just leave insulting her personally out of it? |
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no medical insurance = stupid sick or not |
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that i agree on , in US our system is fucked. I am paying close 400/month for mine. |
i keep being amazed how poor ppl u think are loaded really are...
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There's a reason the saying is "Think BEFORE you speak" :2 cents: |
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Fxck, sleazy is right. |
I would tend to agree with this post ... get your shit straight or pay the prices. It's not anybody elses if she could not afford the 1/4 of a shoot worth monthly for insurance.
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It's kind of interesting.
I can see both side of the story and each has their own validity. But ask yourselves this: Who is she to you ? Once you figure that out. Then each has their rightful position. But the fact still remains.. There's a person in the industry who's pretty close to death. So obviously it's going to effect different people in different ways on many different levels. So how is Sleazy wrong for voicing his opinion on a tragic accident that could easily be labeled as negligence(not saying that it is..just going of apparent info). Then again, would we defend and donate if the scenario involved her in a speeding car hitting something resulting in the same position without insurance ? :upsidedow |
Scott sit this one out... it's not going to change anything at this point bud.
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Class act :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup |
when shooting with animals isnt there usually a handler there ?
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"she was NOT cautious or correctly insured." fuck I am slow tonight.
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Tony404 gets it.
Two things strike me here one is if I got crippled tomorrow would anyone give a fuck...no because I dont have tits Second It is not incumbent on anyone to donate or even to feel as though they should, I'm sure Nikki is a nice person, I'm sure I don't wish anyone here any harm but that's just life, we get hurt, we die, yada yada...shit happens If you wanna donate do so, if not don't. Personally I have better uses for my money...but it IS my choice...hell some people donate to PETA, when there are people, Americans even that need it more...but it's their choice cuz it's their money OK nuff said |
phew thats exactly what i thought but everyone was so gung ho on donating and giving sympathies that i just didn't bother reply, glad others think as i do.
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I feel bad for what happened to her and sincerely hope she gets better soon. I think it is silly to blame someone for getting on a horse as it is something people do every day.
However, I don't think anyone is wrong for questioning about asking for money. A lot of people don't really know her and many people also have never spoken to her. If I was in need of money, I doubt she'd have donated to me. I'm not trying to be mean, but I think it could have been approached a different way. I'm certain she doesn't need the money right this instance. An update on her condition, letting the board know, etc would have been a nice touch before asking for money. You will also get shit from people because she probably makes more than 95% of this board. |
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Both Nikki and those taking the photos were negligent. She was negligent not to be concerned about her own health care and they were negligent by not taking her safety into account when putting her on a horse. Personally, I think it's in bad taste to come to GFY begging for money for someone who can't even take responsibility for themselves. |
Sleazy, for the first time i agree with you for 100%. I will be milder with you in the future. :thumbsup
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I agree with him too. Quote Yesterday we were on a location shooting and Nikki was involved in a serious accident. She was on a horse and the horse got spooked. Nikki fell off the back of the horse and then the horse fell back on her head. Unquote Don?t people or companies shooting content have liability insurance there? Or do you just take the risk and hope accidents won't happen. |
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You all have points. But I have to agree, dont knock on niki because of her ex.
I wish her the best of luck and speedy recovery. |
I guess my issue was why do they need money right this instance. Hospitals bill usually and I think the last thing on my mind would be collecting money.
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I completely agree with Sleazy for once
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burger boy speaks. blah blah blah, no one is listening.
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There are two different issues here Sleazy. You are critisizing her for not having health insurance and critisizing the way its been handeled by King Adam.
It is Nikki Novas fault she didnt have health insurance (thank god I live in a country where health insuarance is free) Even though I agree with what your saying about how its been handeled. Its not her fault how its been handeled by King Adam. Lets not hold that against her |
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I'd send condolences to your family and know you went out doing what you enjoyed doing :) |
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I am not sure why this is so tough to understand. The donation is your choice. Her having health insurance is her choice. Posting debate threads about either issue while she is in a coma and her loved ones are traumatized is inappropriate, in my opinion. The point to what I said had nothing to do with donating money, if I died, would you post with condolences? Or would you post debating my decision? |
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nothing is free. not even health insurance. its paid by taxes.
countries where the tax money doesnt go to insurance, ppl simply have to take responsibility for that cost themselves. that simple. |
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