If I was about to start a paysite it would never be a solo site. Think of all the hassle if the model wants out for some reason and just refuse to do any more EVEN if you have content for 2 years forward. What to do after that? :2 cents:

Exactly. I don't want to name names but I know of one very popular pornstar who you all know and posts here regularily. Her member area is one of the best I've seen. She interacts with the members. She's hot and has a great personality.

BUT

She paid big bucks for a flashy tour by what many consider to be one of the top design companies and the site does not convert AT ALL.

There is nothing in the tour that reflects her personality to show that she plays an active role. It's too glitzy and polished. It's a shame because I know people would love what they find when they get inside.

i do not comment on this thread - i'm just here for a little vacation :glugglug

I don't pretend to know all the answers. We've had some fantastic successes and some horrible failures. You never know which is which until you TRY.

All our sites are now built according to a formula that we have stumbled upon over the years:

1) Each site stars ONE girl, with updates from that girl each AT LEAST weekly.
2) Each site contains tens of thousands of dollars worth of plugin, bonus, and liveshow content, to create additional value for the member.
3) All of our girls are REQUIRED to shoot often with other Lightspeedgirls. It makes better content and creates member interest in our other girl's sites.
4) All our sites share the last two updates and top 2 ranked sets from EVERY Lightspeed site, which effectively gives all members at least 5 new updates daily.
5) Members are allowed to buy 1,5,or 10 Lightspeedgirl sites under one membership.
6) Members can upgrade to a higher level membership at any time.
7) Members can switch out the sites in their membership after every rebill, including new sites.
8) New Lightspeedgirl sites are added monthly, with AT least 50-60 brand new photo and video sets, with nearly 3 years of additional content already shot for that site.

hmmm ......... only famous pornstar who posts here is Sunny Leone. or Aimee Sweet but i haven't seen her post here in a long time.

Solo girl sites are just the new cookie cutter sites of years past. The reason they are popular because they are cheapest exclusive sites you can make.

Free hosted galleries has changed a lot of things.Even if the sites don't convert and retain that well, you are better off putting up their free hosted galleries over a submitters gallery you make no money with.

whats SO hard to understand? The more personal a solo site is, the better it converts. The more commercialized it looks, with the graphically overloaded tours and shit, will hardly convert because it looks too overdone, and the last thing they will think is that the model really runs the site - let alone being reminded of the big megasite they joined last month that had jackshit for content and updates yet hoad such an AMAZING TOUR... :1orglaugh

Some of these things are so fucking obvious I applaud those who fail because they are too fucking stupid to catch some common sense.

:thumbsup

agree :thumbsup

I know. I do, quietly to myself :winkwink: I know Sweet T does as well. And i think Mike's bank account recognizes it everyday.

That was one of my points to this thread. There are many great solo sites. No doubt. But they have also become the new cookie cutter.

The other half of the equation, besides having a hot girl and a quality site (or network of sites) is the MARKETING EFFORT.

Without good marketing, the best site will never reach its full potential.

Would you promote a superhot model if you've heard rumors that the company running it shaves, or doesn't pay accurately?

What if its run by a company in WHOKNOWSWHEREISTAN that you've never heard of?
How about low payout %?
No marketing materials?
Hard to reach support?

All these can mean DEATH to an otherwise great site.

Steve, we really don't know each other. I don't know much about you aside from your posts and I know enough to know you can't judge someone on their posts. The one thing I do know is the lightspeed business model. You are one of the few people in the industry that breaks the mold and makes things work for you. The system you've created is pure genius. It may seem obvious to most but the fact that Steve is the only one that has put all the pieces together makes it genius in my books.

ok, now i will leave a comment though:

i noticed that a few times already - simple html stuff might convert on those personality sites way better than all this flashy stuff which is in my eyes only done to impress webmasters - not surfers. i know a personality site which is managed by the girl itself and which is obviously doing fantastic - but looks not that "glamourous" on the outside. but who cares, as long as the members are happy.

in fact - the more i think about it - she doesn't seem to care that much about what webmasters think, generates her own traffic, interacts with her members, gives them what they want and doesn't spend much money on design but on good content. sounds like a good plan to me :winkwink:

TRAFFIC IS KING! So many models join forces with guys who think the model is all they need. Traffic doesn't grow on trees.

I think the secret to selling sologirl sites to surfers is to sell the site to webmasters FIRST. Getting a webmaster to heavily promote a sologirl is very much like getting a surfer to signup and rebill for multiple months.

Its affiliate webmasters who determine which sites will succeed and which will fail.

For the record I'm not buffing Steve's butt. I just got an icq from someone asking me why i'm being so nice to Steve. I'm not being nice, i'm just recognizing what i consider to be a solid business model.

Btw it's great to see a business thread get so many great replies :thumbsup

Ideas without money and hard work are nothing... sometimes you can have the greatest ones but you won't get nowhere without working hard and making it happen.

I'ma work with 3 different kind of tours :
1 : The one that girl could have made herself ... will look like something made on geocities in 1998
2 : The normal generic site
3 : A very flashy glamorous website with shots ... it will literally look like a music video. Maybe even some green screne scenes for the trailers.

We'll see what works ;)

i would be veeeery curious to see the results :winkwink:

I also recognize him for it as I mentioned him earlier. While I didn't entirely agree with that business model at the time, because I thought it was some what deceiving to the surfer (the fact that the model had no actual involement) I do understand that perception is reality as you said ;) To me Mike was was the pioneer of the solo girl site before it was even called that.

Thanks Shap, but to whoever is icqing you, WTF? :321GFY
When did I become "evil"? Without naming names here, be a man and act the same way to my face as you do behind my back.

Btw, I also credit MikeAI and SweetT as the REAL pioneers in the current sologirl market.

Steve Lightspeed

Mike AI (01:05 PM) :
Thanks for the plug. it is not like I invented the internet, I would not want on my grave site "father of the solo girl niche" haha

:1orglaugh

It was actually my buddy ripping on me and telling me i should remove my head from your ass. I figured if he saw it that way others may as well.

http://images.brookeskye.com/signs/c.../369773192.jpg :winkwink:

evil bastard :upsidedow

it's amazing how Brooke is always available when you need a sign done :upsidedow

I've run my own solo girl/amateur/single model site both as a stand alone site & as part of a network of other models. The rebills are what make a site profitable & it should be obvious which one keeps members interested longer. Just take a look at the number of rebills an AVS does.

You think solo girl sites are the black mark on adult and I think it's the megasites. Sure the rebill forever and a day, god damn you give them $50,000 of porn for $29.95 per month. What exactly did you expect? If they want to jerk off without the internet they are spending that on 2 DVD rentals and some lube.

I never said they were the black mark.

We give them much more than $50,000 worth. I've spent $50,000 on Twistys content in the last two weeks alone. Bottomline is Twistys is profitable with our current business model. If giving our members access to $1,000,000 worth of content for $24.95 is profitable for us then that makes us all the more competitve and appealing to prospective members. If solo girl sites can't compete with that it's not my problem :winkwink: We are giving our members good value for their money and making money while doing it. Everybody comes away happy!

Especially when she on the webcam and chat for the tour 24/7... She's a hard working girl...:pimp

You come away happy. I'm not an "old timer" as I started in this business early 2001 so I have no idea where this business got so screwed up. When you have DVD rentals for $10, PPV for $15, webcam shows for $3 a minute or more, phone sex for $2 a minute or more, and megasite with fuckpiles of shit for $30 I'd say the megasite is the one with the bad business model. Sure you sell a ton, if I could buy new cars for $15 and sell them for $30 when everyone else is trying to milk it I'd be the biggest fucking car dealer in the world. It's not good for the industry period.

Don't take this wrong as I am not pointing fingers at you or anyone else. After the model was fried it's damn near impossible to reverse it. That said a solo girl site with 30 sets of content starting out sounds just about right. Now when someone can manage flaky models in bulk and have a network of girls involved in their sites, they will have gold.

I agree. High Speed Connections. Download Bots. Free Sites. All things that lead surfers to want more more more. If a surfer can download a site within a few hours many of them will and will cancel. If i could charge $59.95 a month and make more I would. Problem is people aren't willing to pay $59.95 per month for 1 site. The price point is between $19.95 and $29.95. My guess is that is the comfort zone for most people.

I like sologirl sites, they are personal and ( can be ) fresh. BUT Everybody is getting into the niche and fucking it up. The market is getting boring now! All the girls are posing on a bed with 5 diff outfits. Then follows the cheerleader costume, the schoolgirl etc... fake as shit!

If you want to promote a site run by a model (me) click here www.meetaudrey.com
It may not be the most successful site, but I work hard to please my members. My site is UNIQUE . Just ask me for a pass and you'll see a DIFFERENT solo site! :)

http://www.meetaudrey.com/DECOUPEpic...Butterfly4.jpg

#1 will convert better

This is the evolution of an industry. By your rational a movie in the theater costs $9 a ticket therefor Netflix should be $99 a month or since HBO runs ya $10 extra a month Direct TV should be $200 and change. $29.95 for a membership to a porn site, no matter how much content is outrageous. $30 for a single girl site is outright larceny. But its sex related so the consumer will pay it. Eventually however prices and profit margins will come back down to reality, as it does in every industry. (Look at Playboy subscriptions starting at $1 an issue) As much as the online industry drives technology, eventually we will look at mainstream companies for their marketing.

bump for you... ;)

One word WRONG. $30 a month is perfectly damn fine for ANY product people want. It's a bunch of retarded morons who graduated last year that can jump in this business that fuck it up then everyone has to compete. Oh and while I'm selling a good product for a great price let me go give it away on 50000 sites to get some quick traffic today. The persons that conceived this business model should be shot for idiocy.

By the way, if you wanted to compare netflix pricing to that of adult websites netflix would be charging $0.22 per month for their service.

Good product for a great price? You're drinking the Kool-Aid. The pricing structure for online adult is a bit out of touch with reality and the entertainment industry. Would you pay individually for your television stations. $24.95 a month for NBC? $39.95 for ESPN? Of course not. It flys because its sex and you can mark up sex related products...to a point. Eventually, as in all industries, the price points will drop while the content increases.

What happened to all of those $10 sites that everybody was launching last year? I'm not privvy to the numbers, but based on the current price structure of the big programs I'm guessing that sales did not skyrocket when a lower price point was offered. $30 is still the standard.