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Juicy D. Links 12-13-2005 06:27 PM

50....... :frenchman

MaDalton 12-13-2005 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim
While you certainly should be able to defend yourself given the email that was sent to affiliates detailing one side of the situation, I think you might have gone a bit overboard, just like your former employer did.

I really do wonder when this industry is going to realize that airing dirty laundry about business and business practices is really declasse and juvenile.

Now if that computer that you were typing to your wife on was paid for by you, Scott, then I think you've probably got some more ammunition in case you decide to seek legal action, but if that computer was paid for by MN, then I believe they are entitled to record and review any and all usage of that computer. If they did indeed pay for it, and you thought you had rights to privacy that you didn't, that is really more your naivete than anything else.

I certainly hope that both sides of this situation will take some time to stop and reflect on their actions, and consider the possible consequences both in terms of legal issues and in terms of how the "community" perceives the situation.


every logging of actions and/or communication without knowledge of the person in question over here is illegal and could not be used in lawsuits. no matter who bought the computer.

you have to tell the person that you are going to log his actions.

so he would have good chances winning a lawsuit here, cause what MN did (if they did it) would have been illegal.

cocksy 12-13-2005 06:28 PM

I wonder if MN will reply to this thread.

Also: are you planning on sueing them for the e-mail they sent out?

Juicy D. Links 12-13-2005 06:29 PM

fake plane ticket? ouchhhhhhhhhhh

Juicy D. Links 12-13-2005 06:29 PM

got a copy of the ticket by any chance? I would love to see that

brand0n 12-13-2005 06:29 PM

id like to see the tickets lol

NickPapageorgio 12-13-2005 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim
While you certainly should be able to defend yourself given the email that was sent to affiliates detailing one side of the situation, I think you might have gone a bit overboard, just like your former employer did.

I really do wonder when this industry is going to realize that airing dirty laundry about business and business practices is really declasse and juvenile.

Now if that computer that you were typing to your wife on was paid for by you, Scott, then I think you've probably got some more ammunition in case you decide to seek legal action, but if that computer was paid for by MN, then I believe they are entitled to record and review any and all usage of that computer. If they did indeed pay for it, and you thought you had rights to privacy that you didn't, that is really more your naivete than anything else.

I certainly hope that both sides of this situation will take some time to stop and reflect on their actions, and consider the possible consequences both in terms of legal issues and in terms of how the "community" perceives the situation.

Great post KK. :thumbsup

Steve 12-13-2005 06:30 PM

you were unhappy where you worked - now you dont work there anymore
sounds like things worked out

tranza 12-13-2005 06:30 PM

I hope MensNiche replys at least to explain about the fake plane ticket.

JFK 12-13-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
Fake plane tickets ? OUCH ...

CHEEEEEZZZZZZY isnt it ? :2 cents:

DVTimes 12-13-2005 06:32 PM

To me the email has done MN harm. I would not promote them or want to do anything with them for sending out that email.

It was unprofessional.

I do not care if you did anything or not. No firm should have done that. Its the sort of thing a 6 year old would do.

Juicy D. Links 12-13-2005 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK
CHEEEEEZZZZZZY isnt it ? :2 cents:

Indeed...........below cheezy even.

Juicy D. Links 12-13-2005 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanuk
To me the email has done MN harm. I would not promote them or want to do anything with them for sending out that email.

It was unprofessional.

I do not care if you did anything or not. No firm should have done that. Its the sort of thing a 6 year old would do.

Agreed when i got the email I thought to myself wtf is this at first?

If your gonna ax someone so be it... we dont want the details nobodys biz :2 cents:

FreakinWebmaster 12-13-2005 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanuk
To me the email has done MN harm. I would not promote them or want to do anything with them for sending out that email.

It was unprofessional.

I do not care if you did anything or not. No firm should have done that. Its the sort of thing a 6 year old would do.


You basically just repeated what I said:
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakinWebmaster
For a business to outright try to ruin an employee's reputation is ludicrous and childish. An email stating Scott has been let go for un-business-like practices would have been fine. Instead MN tried to ruin Scott?s reputation.

I must say Scott has always been able to help me increase my sales and I always have had respect for him, he knows what he is doing for sure! Scott is a straight up guy especially meeting him in person. Darren on the other had has insulted me on GFY in the past because I didn?t like certain ideas. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

All I can say is good luck Scott, you will be much better off!

Even though I believe both sides of the story are at fault, because of the way MN conducts business, I will be starting to remove my links.


SmokeyTheBear 12-13-2005 06:44 PM

i dont know of the private details of this case but in all fairness here's what most likely happened..

For whatever reason MN was unsatisfied with scott's performance, ( maybe even complaints about being blown off via icq ) so MN thought , maybe we should review his icq logs and see how he talks to affiliates/potential affiliates , and saw scott slamming them on icq ( not knowing who he is speaking to ). Thus they think he is hruting their rep.. bam your fired , and the rest is history..

mind you i dont know any of the details but...

SureFire 12-13-2005 07:00 PM

ScottMN,

Wishing you the best of luck.

Bogus tickets...MN has some explaining to do :(

toddler 12-13-2005 07:06 PM

If the company is based in the US(i have no idea if they are or not) they can do anything they want regarding the privacy of your communications on their network and machine(s). Outside the US, see your applicable laws.

I used to read other employee's mail for a living...:)

Just Mike 12-13-2005 07:09 PM

Sig placement

aico 12-13-2005 07:11 PM

Making fake plane tickets is a BIG no-no and you could get them in some serious Federal trouble if that is true.... hope you still got them.

BIG NO-NO....

Fucking HUGE mistake...

Kimmykim 12-13-2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddler
If the company is based in the US(i have no idea if they are or not) they can do anything they want regarding the privacy of your communications on their network and machine(s). Outside the US, see your applicable laws.

I used to read other employee's mail for a living...:)

Yes, indeed, in the US there is an implicit acceptance of corporate monitoring when an employee uses company property...

but that's not my point.

My point is that neither Scott nor MensNiche need to have unnecessary drama on the board or in business.

dropped9 12-13-2005 07:21 PM

sig whoreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

SmokeyTheBear 12-13-2005 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

My point is that neither Scott nor MensNiche need to have unnecessary drama on the board or in business.

:thumbsup

TheGoldenChild 12-13-2005 07:31 PM

Scott are you taking kickbacks now???

If so, send all of your affiliates to me
at http://www.joebucks.com/kb
I'll kick you down handsomely
and maybe we both can have a GREAT laugh over the entire experience-

Oh and don't forget the part about me telling you so

TheGoldenChild 12-13-2005 07:36 PM

Oh and KK while your post was very well thought out, and professional- it doesn't change the fact that Scott was working for ungrateful, little ASSHOLES.

As I did a year ago-
I was fortunate enough to cut my losses and go to a better Pill sponsor
http://www.joebucks.com/kb
and I am happy to say I got the last laugh, just like I know Scotty will-

Best of luck Scott- and if you still have my pics form last year,send them over
You know, the ones that Darren posted on the web of my huge cock?
:-))
Forget about all that
I want to hear more about the fake PLANE TICKET
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ScottMN 12-13-2005 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
So Scott, any recommendations for future sales/affiliate reps that think about putting the name of the company in their screenname?

HAHA, i knew someone was going to mention that one ;).

As for screenshots of the tickets, though I like the idea, I'm going to pass on posting them. it would just fan the flames.

And KB, you had to do the "i told you so" didn't you :)

baddog 12-13-2005 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Scott are you taking kickbacks now???

If so, send all of your affiliates to me
at http: //www.joebucks.com/kb
I'll kick you down handsomely
and maybe we both can have a GREAT laugh over the entire experience-
Oh and don't forget the part about me telling you so

Cockblocker :winkwink:

TheGoldenChild 12-13-2005 07:38 PM

BTW

In case you didn't notice-
I am having fun with this....
and maybe spamming a little too

:1orglaugh

http://www.joebucks.com/kb

Marshal 12-13-2005 07:38 PM

what's going on here?

Aly 12-13-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle

Oh and don't forget the part about me telling you so


:1orglaugh I was wondering why you weren't here yet! LOL..

baddog 12-13-2005 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottMN
HAHA, i knew someone was going to mention that one ;).

So, answer the question :1orglaugh

Quote:


As for screenshots of the tickets, though I like the idea, I'm going to pass on posting them. it would just fan the flames.
you say that like it would be a bad thing . . . send to me, and I will do it for you :)

TheGoldenChild 12-13-2005 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Cockblocker :winkwink:

Sorry Baddog
I didn't see what you had going on over there
I was too busy plugging http://www.joebucks.com/kb
I need to be less self absorbed sometimes- what's wrong with me?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

King Adam 12-13-2005 07:46 PM

I have no respect for MN. For a professional company, they handled pretty much everything wrong. They should be embarrased for they way the dealt with this situation.

I will never promote MN.

Best wishes Scott.

TheGoldenChild 12-13-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly
:1orglaugh I was wondering why you weren't here yet! LOL..

Instant karma is more than just a John Lennon song my dear...


:1orglaugh

KRL 12-13-2005 07:52 PM

I've got 2 theories on this situation.

Either

http://www.invisiblekeylogger.com/im...te-spy/1-1.gif

or

http://www.acespy.com/keyloggerhrd_files/hrd-3d.gif

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

lilspup 12-13-2005 07:55 PM

MN should be ashamed of what they did to you. Best of luck in whatever you do Scott.

TheGoldenChild 12-13-2005 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottMN
HAHA, i knew someone was going to mention that one ;).

As for screenshots of the tickets, though I like the idea, I'm going to pass on posting them. it would just fan the flames.

And KB, you had to do the "i told you so" didn't you :)

When you are always right, like I am, I get great satisfaction from hearing it time and time again- it never gets old, just like the sound of my own name LOL!

I have had a ton of problems with some clients
I voice my opinion and call them dirtbags when I need to-
Then I get ridiculed for being a big mouth and not seeing the big picture that the people I am bashing are "great people cause they bought someone a drink in Vegas"
blah blah blah-

Everyone I have taken issue with or had an issue with- turned out to be scumbags in the eyes of a lot of people 6 mos to a year later....

So, am I ahead of the game?
Am I the only one who has a bullshit meter that is always 100% correct?

Who have I blasted unfairly?

AVN?
MN?
Aly?
NATS?
Flying Croc and Andy Edmond?
Danza?


Scott I feel for you because you are a married man with responsibilities-
I am a single guy, who was subcontracted- who told them to stick it a year ago:-))
Onward and upward my friend
and there willalways be room for a guy like you with
http://www.joebucks.com/kb
What you thought I wouldn't try to spam it again?

:1orglaugh

exitmoney 12-13-2005 08:01 PM

I would like to hear what MN has to say to those as well, specially the fake plane ticket and spying on Scott's computer ?

phonesex 12-13-2005 08:04 PM

shit happens. See sig and get rich.

TheLegacy 12-13-2005 08:11 PM

it is sad when you hear of shit like that and company's act so unprofessionally. In the mainstream world this would be a huge law suit - yet here in the adult world - just another story added to the pile of mistreated sales people - rude companies and ego's

a very sad story and I do hope the best for you

THY 12-13-2005 08:18 PM

Hey Scott!
could you contact me on icq?

just looking for a friendly chat not related to this ;)

thanks.

TheGoldenChild 12-13-2005 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy
it is sad when you hear of shit like that and company's act so unprofessionally. In the mainstream world this would be a huge law suit - yet here in the adult world - just another story added to the pile of mistreated sales people - rude companies and ego's

a very sad story and I do hope the best for you

I think I need to go back to mainstream and find some more morons like MN to sue-
They are out there too-

Shoehorn! 12-13-2005 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottMN
I was sent on the plane with a bogus plane ticket, courtesy of MensNiche. Yes, they actually sent me to the airport with a fake plane ticket.

Wow, that is seriously fucking classless.

sextoyking 12-13-2005 08:29 PM

KB,

I am not here to defend Mens Niche but don't come off like they screwed you and you worked there for along time, let's get real here people.

1. As I said in the other thread from a couple of days ago - I would have never wrote an email like that for the public viewing, I think Darren and crew see that mistake now.

2. I like Scott, we have never had any problems.

3. I like Darren and his crew at mens niche, As I said before we have ever had an issue or problem with them and we do Tons of business every day with MN.

I didn't really want to post on this thread as I don't want to get in the middle and frankly it's none of my business.

I do belive that Mens niche runs a great operation and takes care of there affiliates almost 24/7. They have always been been very professional with us and I belive there probably #1 or #2 in this industry - of the products they sell.

So anyways - I go with what KK said - do we all need to air our dirty laundry on the boards?

I hope Scott and MN can work through these problems - but it's there biz and not ours.

Peace

Todd

Greg MissionD 12-13-2005 08:34 PM

How does a fake plane ticket work then, would like to see that,

Fetish 12-13-2005 08:46 PM

Blah blah blah - he got fired at that is that - adios

J$tyle$ 12-13-2005 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kBizzle
Sorry Baddog
I didn't see what you had going on over there
I was too busy plugging http://www.joebucks.com/kb
I need to be less self absorbed sometimes- what's wrong with me?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

When are you going to learn how to post a link that is CLICKABLE?


CherryLipsRosa 12-13-2005 09:40 PM

That is one fucked up situation. I am sure it sucks now but soon enough you will look back and laugh about it . Just be true to yourself and things will turn out ok.
Good luck

ronaldo 12-13-2005 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottMN
However, the only people I didn?t tell the whole truth to were him and those on his side. Why would I do this? I didn?t agree with the way the operation was run or decisions made. But I was getting paid to do a job for MN. And if I had breathed a word of my feelings to him, I?m sure these would have been the last words I said as a Mensniche employee. We?ve all been in this situation and I?d have been an idiot to tell him how I felt.

I've known Darren and Andy for a long time and have never had any problems with them at all. That being said, I also never worked for them.

I can assure you though, that I would NEVER work for a company where I wasn't able to offer constructive criticism, especially if company decisions could potentially affect my income. If what you say is true, it's indicative of a horrible management team and I would have been LONG gone.

Besides listening to their employees opinions (not necessarily implementing, but certainly listening) a good management team accepts 100% of the responsibility when one of their employees fucks up...and then deals with it internally. They also pass all of the credit ON to their employees for every success...then privately, pat each other on the back and reap the rewards and benefits.

:2 cents:

edit-A BAD management team btw blames everyone but themselves when things fail and take ALL the credit when things go great.

sfera 12-13-2005 09:59 PM

he was stealing the porno tapes...lol, idk

Baker Rd 12-13-2005 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve
you were unhappy where you worked - now you dont work there anymore
sounds like things worked out

pretty much sums it up...

from the sound of it, that moron Darren is driving the company into the ground anyways. maybe this was a good time to get out


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