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Buddah00 12-22-2005 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tipsy
Oh dear - you really are dumb aren't you? I've assumed nothing and commented only on the info that YOU posted. Ask a friend with a little intelligence (and better still some knowledge of this business and the players in it) how stupid you look in this thread and maybe they can get through to you.

WTF though - arguing with idiots over stuff I care little about has never been my thing in life. I'll leave you in peace to dig the hole a little deeper. Needless to say love him or hate him you'll find few if any in the business that will call Choker anything but honest in all dealings - but then that's the reason he makes good money and you're getting pissy about $50 worth of traffic.

End of my :2 cents: + :2 cents:- not worth the effort. And of course bump - if you genuinely believe that this thread in any way harms Choker and not yourself you have some big problems.

You assumed to know enough about what is going on to make a negative statement towards me. The only information you have is what I CHOOSE to post in this thread. Choker knows the rest.

You assume that this over $50 which is not the case.

You assume that I give a fuck about what you think.

jonesy 12-22-2005 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddah00
:321GFY
I don't care if it was only 14 cents. It's the principle.

its the principality of the matter.

pr0 12-22-2005 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddah00
You assumed to know enough about what is going on to make a negative statement towards me. The only information you have is what I CHOOSE to post in this thread. Choker knows the rest.

You assume that this over $50 which is not the case.

You assume that I give a fuck about what you think.

I assume you love the bukkake

KrisW 12-22-2005 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleMack
Choker is a stand up guy

and top notch

LittleMack 12-22-2005 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisW
and top notch


Agree :thumbsup

Buddah00 12-22-2005 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
I assume you love the bukkake

You are correct in your assumption.

sfera 12-22-2005 07:10 PM

bump for my sig

pussyluver 12-22-2005 07:23 PM

I'm pissed too. I didn't get 40 conversions on my $50 investment!

Don't read I'm trying to guess what you bought, I'm not.

Why aren't these things handled off board???? All ya have to do is message Choker and give him or staff a chance to respond.

Choker 12-22-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver
I'm pissed too. I didn't get 40 conversions on my $50 investment!

Don't read I'm trying to guess what you bought, I'm not.

Why aren't these things handled off board???? All ya have to do is message Choker and give him or staff a chance to respond.


He did message me and I ignored him. I saw the chargeback in MVC admin and took for granted he was full of shit. I am in a very bad situation here and because I did not read the fine print of a TOS I cannot publicly disclose who's fault this it. I do not believe this guy charged back as this is not the first or even second complaint of this type I have recieved. I do apoligize for ignoring you and taking for granted you charged back. Upon closer examination it is obvious you did not charge back.

Buddha00 I am unlocking your account and I will just eat the chargeback and fines that come from it. I would have came to the boards if I were you about this myself.

On a side note, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the fantastic job that My Virtual Card does processing , I have decided to immediately stop selling traffic to any site that uses My Virtual Card as a processor.

Choker 12-22-2005 08:47 PM

BTW Buddah, what exactly did the MVC guys say when you called them about this?

Buddah00 12-22-2005 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker
He did message me and I ignored him. I saw the chargeback in MVC admin and took for granted he was full of shit. I am in a very bad situation here and because I did not read the fine print of a TOS I cannot publicly disclose who's fault this it. I do not believe this guy charged back as this is not the first or even second complaint of this type I have recieved. I do apoligize for ignoring you and taking for granted you charged back. Upon closer examination it is obvious you did not charge back.

Buddha00 I am unlocking your account and I will just eat the chargeback and fines that come from it. I would have came to the boards if I were you about this myself.

On a side note, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the fantastic job that My Virtual Card does processing , I have decided to immediately stop selling traffic to any site that uses My Virtual Card as a processor.

Thank you Choker. I apologize as well for calling you a thief. I really took offense to be labeled as a cheat and a thief myself.

Since my bank has no record of a charge back or disputed purchase to MVC it is obivious now as to who is fucked up.

I told MVC that I didn't authorize any chargeback and that my bank had no knowledge of it. He basically didn't have anything to say.

Buddah00 12-22-2005 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker
BTW Buddah, what exactly did the MVC guys say when you called them about this?

I told MVC that I didn't authorize any chargebacks and that my bank had no knowledge of it. He basically didn't have anything to say.

I made sure that any transaction would be through myvirtualcard and told him I would check with my bank again.

Again, they have no record of this at all. It looks like we were both had.

CDSmith 12-22-2005 09:48 PM

Nice to see this got resolved (as I knew it would)

But there is a better way to handle this kind of thing than to jump on the board and publicly call someone like Choker a thief.

And the second mistake is cocking off at those who try to point that out to you.

Bottom line is, it's better to ASK if you don't know, and leave the accusations as a last resort rather than a first resort.

Evil1 12-22-2005 10:33 PM

I have yet to hear something good about MVC.

PimpDaddyPants 12-22-2005 10:40 PM

Shit Unsatisfied with Choker Traffic?

See Sig :)

Choker 12-22-2005 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
Shit Unsatisfied with Choker Traffic?

See Sig :)

Pathetic and lame.

PimpDaddyPants 12-22-2005 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery
the only problems i have ever had with choker was he was to busy to get around to approving url (but to be fair i was trying to get a shit load of url approved to take advantage of a bonus day)

2. he doesn't have enough traffic


YEAH! BUT I DO!

pr0 12-22-2005 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
Shit Unsatisfied with Choker Traffic?

See Sig :)

wow you just lost any chance of doing business with alot of people :1orglaugh

Choker 12-22-2005 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
Shit Unsatisfied with Choker Traffic?

See Sig :)

Pissants like you who try to get business by slamming others makes me sick. How does it feel to wake up every morning knowing that you will be picking up the crumbs I drop? You even make a banner putting my traffic down? What a useless piece of shit you are. You must feel real good about yourself. LOL

sonofsam 12-22-2005 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike-ClickedAdultTraffic
I knew he rubbed me the wrong way

You're a clown.

1.) You are a rep for a traffic company so you shouldn't have even said shit in this thread. Says a lot about you and your company

2.) If anyone is doing shady business, it's you guys.. selling "clicked niche traffic" when you are just selling skimmed gallery traffic. I know because i bought some.

:thumbsup idiot

CDSmith 12-22-2005 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker
I am in a very bad situation here and because I did not read the fine print of a TOS I cannot publicly disclose who's fault this it.

On a side note, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the fantastic job that My Virtual Card does processing , I have decided to immediately stop selling traffic to any site that uses My Virtual Card as a processor.

I'll say you're in a bad situation. I just went and had a look for myself at the myvirtualcard TOS, and what do I see?....

Quote:

10. Refund Policy:
myVirtualCard will use commercially reasonable efforts to direct inquiring and complaining Customers to utilize the customer support services offered by Merchant in order to resolve all disputes and complaints, however, myVirtualCard reserves the right to issue a Refund without the knowledge or consent of Merchant in any case that it deems appropriate.
This seems, from the standpoint of the merchant (in this case Choker), to be utterly retarded. It looks like this right here is where buddahoo's problem started.

Then there's this....
Quote:

17. Confidentiality, Intellectual Property.
myVirtualCard's services and all information and documentation relating thereto shall be held in
confidence by Merchant and may not be used by Merchant (other than for the furtherance of the
purposes of the Agreement) nor disclosed to third parties without myVirtualCard's prior written
consent. This includes the discovery of any errors or omissions in the services
and
Quote:

myVirtualCard may deduct the above
described fines, penalties, losses, claims, expenses (including attorney fees and the allocable costs
of in-house counsel), or other liabilities from the Reserve, or if the Reserve is inadequate, directly
from the proceeds of Merchant's sales
That is insane. It appears that if you disagree with them they can use *your* money as they see fit to defend themseleves against you.

Unreal.

Nice little way to cover one's ass. Based on this alone I would never get into bed with a company like myvirtualcard. Never.

Choker 12-22-2005 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
YEAH! BUT I DO!

Yeah you have exit traffic, and you try to peddle your goods by making someone else look bad. Great business plan for a kid operating from their Mom's basement.

CDSmith 12-22-2005 10:49 PM

Myvirtualcard TOS....

https://www.myvirtualcard.com/Docume...Agreement.html

Much of their points are standard stuff, but there are a few clauses in there that are absolutely incredible, and leaves the merchant very much prone to getting a huge raw deal.

sonofsam 12-22-2005 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
Shit Unsatisfied with Choker Traffic?

See Sig :)

Yes, i'm sure that's going to make a LOT of people want to buy traffic off of you.

heres some ownage...

your testimonial on your page

"Nov 16, 2005
ordered 10k in Niched visitors to my site and received over 15 sales, I'm shocked!
- Deak
www.freakydeak.com "

Playa Deak admitted that those sales weren't from there... so you might as well remove that from your site.

also your traffic sucks shit. I bought some and it had a horrible productivity.. why? because its not "clicked niche traffic" .. its gallery skimmed traffic... obviously if you're skimming gallery traffic and sending it directly to a paysite tour its going to do horrible.

Next time instead of flaming other traffic companies, maybe you should focus on

1.) Delivering the purchased traffic on time, instead of having the customer call you 3-4 times to remind you

2.) Take your fake ass testimonial off your site

3.) Stop marketting it as "clicked niche traffic" when its gallery skimmed traffic

SmokeyTheBear 12-22-2005 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker
He did message me and I ignored him. I saw the chargeback in MVC admin and took for granted he was full of shit. I am in a very bad situation here and because I did not read the fine print of a TOS I cannot publicly disclose who's fault this it. I do not believe this guy charged back as this is not the first or even second complaint of this type I have recieved. I do apoligize for ignoring you and taking for granted you charged back. Upon closer examination it is obvious you did not charge back.

Buddha00 I am unlocking your account and I will just eat the chargeback and fines that come from it. I would have came to the boards if I were you about this myself.

On a side note, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the fantastic job that My Virtual Card does processing , I have decided to immediately stop selling traffic to any site that uses My Virtual Card as a processor.


what a great post :thumbsup :thumbsup

People who do customer service should take a lesson from this guy..

Standup response. I wish more people were like you..

- new choker fan club member :pimp

CDSmith 12-22-2005 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
Shit Unsatisfied with Choker Traffic?

See Sig :)

This post tells me that you are an opportunistic shithead. The text in the button in your sig confirms it.

I would never buy from you based on that.

Buhbye now.

PimpDaddyPants 12-22-2005 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker
Yeah you have exit traffic, and you try to peddle your goods by making someone else look bad. Great business plan for a kid operating from their Mom's basement.

I live in a 428k home thank you very much.

Choker First of all not sorry I just thought it was funny man, its been out for awhile....second of all my exit traffic i barely sell so i could shove it all up your ass for all i care ause u need the traffic so bad waaa waaaa dont send more than 25k per day cause i don't have it traffic guy.

I'm not here to slam u man, if people wanna do business they do business, doesnt matter on banners, pictures, etc. I just had this button in my archive and thought it was cool to go along for the thread. But if you think im trying to make u look bad hahah. I know you've been around for awhile Choker. I dont hate you.

Merry Christmas Tom Eggman :321GFY

signing off with a lil too much eggnog.

Spunky 12-22-2005 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg
choker isnt stupid. nor does he rip off people.

one of the few in this biz that is straight up

Indeed..never had a problem with him and try to cheat you will get caught

CDSmith 12-22-2005 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
I live in a 428k home thank you very much.

Choker First of all not sorry I just thought it was funny man, its been out for awhile....second of all my exit traffic i barely sell so i could shove it all up your ass for all i care ause u need the traffic so bad waaa waaaa dont send more than 25k per day cause i don't have it traffic guy.

I'm not here to slam u man, if people wanna do business they do business, doesnt matter on banners, pictures, etc. I just had this button in my archive and thought it was cool to go along for the thread. But if you think im trying to make u look bad hahah. I know you've been around for awhile Choker. I dont hate you.

Merry Christmas Tom Eggman :321GFY

signing off with a lil too much eggnog.

Jeezuz, do people really want to do business with a dipshit like this?

Just look at the kindygarden attitude.

Yeah, have some more egg nog there buddy. :1orglaugh

Jace 12-22-2005 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
I live in a 428k home thank you very much.

Choker First of all not sorry I just thought it was funny man, its been out for awhile....second of all my exit traffic i barely sell so i could shove it all up your ass for all i care ause u need the traffic so bad waaa waaaa dont send more than 25k per day cause i don't have it traffic guy.

I'm not here to slam u man, if people wanna do business they do business, doesnt matter on banners, pictures, etc. I just had this button in my archive and thought it was cool to go along for the thread. But if you think im trying to make u look bad hahah. I know you've been around for awhile Choker. I dont hate you.

Merry Christmas Tom Eggman :321GFY

signing off with a lil too much eggnog.


you sir, are an ignorant idiot

Evil1 12-22-2005 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
bleh

Ha, this thread is working out great for you. might want to rethink your spamming techniques fuckhead
:1orglaugh

Choker 12-22-2005 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
what a great post :thumbsup :thumbsup

People who do customer service should take a lesson from this guy..

Standup response. I wish more people were like you..

- new choker fan club member :pimp

Thanks but I really was a ass to Buddah when he tried to contact me before, so he had no choice but to take this public. When someone cheats me or worse charges back on me I lock their account and if they icq me I hit ignore user right away as I do not need the stress of dealing with people who are thieves. But recent events that I cannot go into detail about as I am under a contract and cannot disclose the details of, have led me to believe I banned a lot of innocent people. For this I apoligize and I will correct as soon as I can verify.

sonofsam 12-22-2005 11:03 PM

lol pimpdaddypants got owned in 10 different directions :1orglaugh

when spamming goes BAD on FOX at 8pm central!

PimpDaddyPants 12-22-2005 11:03 PM

Hey Choker just a lil Harmless Fun man...

No Hard Feelings.... U need inventory let me know!

I didnt mean any harm Tom.

pussyluver 12-22-2005 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker
He did message me and I ignored him. I saw the chargeback in MVC admin and took for granted he was full of shit. I am in a very bad situation here and because I did not read the fine print of a TOS I cannot publicly disclose who's fault this it. I do not believe this guy charged back as this is not the first or even second complaint of this type I have recieved. I do apoligize for ignoring you and taking for granted you charged back. Upon closer examination it is obvious you did not charge back.

Buddha00 I am unlocking your account and I will just eat the chargeback and fines that come from it. I would have came to the boards if I were you about this myself.

On a side note, and this has absolutely nothing to do with the fantastic job that My Virtual Card does processing , I have decided to immediately stop selling traffic to any site that uses My Virtual Card as a processor.

Damn! Drama resolved.

sonofsam 12-22-2005 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
Hey Choker just a lil Harmless Fun man...

No Hard Feelings.... U need inventory let me know!

I didnt mean any harm Tom.

You must be really drunk..

reminds me of those guys that get in fights while drunk, and immediately after have an emotional breakdown and turn all lovey dovey :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

PimpDaddyPants 12-22-2005 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam
You must be really drunk..

reminds me of those guys that get in fights while drunk, and immediately after have an emotional breakdown and turn all lovey dovey :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


something like that, opened up a 1991 Jordan with the gf, and had some other drinks...

choker is a great guy!

broke 12-22-2005 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
I live in a 428k home thank you very much.

Choker First of all not sorry I just thought it was funny man, its been out for awhile....second of all my exit traffic i barely sell so i could shove it all up your ass for all i care ause u need the traffic so bad waaa waaaa dont send more than 25k per day cause i don't have it traffic guy.

I'm not here to slam u man, if people wanna do business they do business, doesnt matter on banners, pictures, etc. I just had this button in my archive and thought it was cool to go along for the thread. But if you think im trying to make u look bad hahah. I know you've been around for awhile Choker. I dont hate you.

Merry Christmas Tom Eggman :321GFY

signing off with a lil too much eggnog.

You should probably spend more time getting your site fully functional and less time attempting to talk shit. I especially like your affiliate link.

Promo Chicks 12-22-2005 11:10 PM

Ya,,,Choker stands on two feet!

Evil1 12-22-2005 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
choker is a great guy!

12 minutes ago you wanted shove your exit traffic up his ass? or some shit. It was pretty incoherent.. now he's a great guy?

it might be time to step the fuck away from the keyboard for a while. :2 cents:

CDSmith 12-22-2005 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
Hey Choker just a lil Harmless Fun man...

No Hard Feelings.... U need inventory let me know!

I didnt mean any harm Tom.

Backpeddle bitch.


http://www.thewinnipegpages.com/foru...1108061600.jpg

rowan 12-22-2005 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
I'll say you're in a bad situation. I just went and had a look for myself at the myvirtualcard TOS, and what do I see?....


10. Refund Policy:
myVirtualCard will use commercially reasonable efforts to direct inquiring and complaining Customers to utilize the customer support services offered by Merchant in order to resolve all disputes and complaints, however, myVirtualCard reserves the right to issue a Refund without the knowledge or consent of Merchant in any case that it deems appropriate.



This seems, from the standpoint of the merchant (in this case Choker), to be utterly retarded. It looks like this right here is where buddahoo's problem started.

I'd say it's pretty standard, they're just letting you know that if a customer rings up to complain that they will not necessarily contact the merchant before refunding the transaction. I've used two processors and they've never referred an unhappy customer to me... just a quiet refund with a couple of words of explanation (if I'm lucky). It's probably better to refund an irate customer immediately than potentially trigger a chargeback.

Having said that, the other stuff in the MVC TOS seems a little more hairy...

CDSmith 12-22-2005 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
I'd say it's pretty standard, they're just letting you know that if a customer rings up to complain that they will not necessarily contact the merchant before refunding the transaction. I've used two processors and they've never referred an unhappy customer to me... just a quiet refund with a couple of words of explanation (if I'm lucky). It's probably better to refund an irate customer immediately than potentially trigger a chargeback.

The problem in this case is that it appears they (MVC) did the chargeback but both the merchant and the buyer were unaware of it, which caused the buyer (Buddah00) to make this wrongful accusation thread.

I don't see anything standard about it.

Issuing a buyer a refund at his request is standard, but in this instance that wasn't the case, and obviously by Choker's comments it seems it has happened several times before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
Having said that, the other stuff in the MVC TOS seems a little more hairy...

"a little more hairy" only begins to cover the alarm bells that are going off in my head over their quaint little TOS.

KRL 12-22-2005 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dunefield

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.theimperials.net/imphky07/images/owned.jpg

AcidMax 12-23-2005 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PimpDaddyPants
something like that, opened up a 1991 Jordan with the gf, and had some other drinks...

choker is a great guy!

So the next time you get a little tipsy you are going to run your mouth again? Perception is reality and I for one, would never do biz with your service, and I think I can speak for a lot of people in this thread.

The sad part is that instead of giving choker the benefit of the doubt, and making your company look good as a competitor, you come in here and start talking bad about him.

KingK7 12-23-2005 07:12 AM

Man these Choker threads get MAD views

Realpascal 12-23-2005 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil1
I have yet to hear something good about MVC.

MVC is the least crappiest processor out there.
Far from good, but better then nothing.. :2 cents:

webair 12-23-2005 07:55 AM

Chokers pretty cool Merry Xmas!!!

Tom_PM 12-23-2005 07:57 AM

Also, his bank has no record of it. Wheres the money?
Maybe I'm just tired, but I dont see where the money went.

sonofsam 12-23-2005 07:57 AM

100 opportunistic spam attempts by PimpDaddyPants gone horribly wrong :1orglaugh


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