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FiReC 01-13-2006 12:44 AM

i don't like to play single stocks, im into etf's and mutual funds, i like the nasdaq trust 100 ETF, the QQQQ , still has lots of room to grow from past levels. also like the FBALX, fidelity balanced, its about 70/30 in stocks/bonds.

buddyjuf 01-13-2006 01:11 AM

I just bought a few Local.com shares today, I like where the company is heading

Hey You . . . I Know You! 01-13-2006 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Monk
The numbers very often don't 'justify' the valuation....... so what? You can say that about almost any stock that goes into bull mode. The question is whether the stock will go up or not.

Follow the charts and jump in on bulls and get short on bears.

Hey, great advice! Buy low, sell high! I never thought to try that! Since I know when the bulls and bears are coming, this should be a SNAP!


If you can't justify the valuation, then you are not "investing."

The better able you are to justify the valuation, the more likely a stock will increase in value. Sure, sometimes investors drive up the price of a particular stock based on expectation and excitement, but the stock price will always corrects itself. Nothing can stay overpriced forever. If you invest in a company knowing that the current stock price is valued at a potential future value (based on expected earnings, etc.) you are asking for a beat down. You just gave someone else a bank full of money while you hope beyond hope that you can fool the next buyer into paying more than you did.

Again, I say, it could happen . . . it is just not a very smart thing to do.

$5 submissions 01-13-2006 01:30 AM

Do any of you guys do stock picks based on PRICE to BOOK VALUE balanced with the standard EPS ratio?

Hey You . . . I Know You! 01-13-2006 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions
Do any of you guys do stock picks based on PRICE to BOOK VALUE balanced with the standard EPS ratio?


Don?t be ridiculous. Numbers are for suckers.

You don't need to know anything about the financial info of a company to know whether or not they are a sound investment.

Take a dart and wing it at the stock page and let it ride!

You could already be a winner!

Monk 01-13-2006 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
Hey, great advice! Buy low, sell high! I never thought to try that! Since I know when the bulls and bears are coming, this should be a SNAP!

If you are not able to identify a bull, that's not my problem.... I can. (hint:stock charts)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
If you can't justify the valuation, then you are not "investing."

Really?!? Is that a fact or just your uninformed opinion? Know anything about charting or technical analysis?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
The better able you are to justify the valuation, the more likely a stock will increase in value. Sure, sometimes investors drive up the price of a particular stock based on expectation and excitement, but the stock price will always corrects itself. Nothing can stay overpriced forever. If you invest in a company knowing that the current stock price is valued at a potential future value (based on expected earnings, etc.) you are asking for a beat down. You just gave someone else a bank full of money while you hope beyond hope that you can fool the next buyer into paying more than you did. Again, I say, it could happen . . . it is just not a very smart thing to do.

What a bunch of regurgitated drivel..... sounds like you read it on a message board somewhere.

Firstly, the 3 hours you spend online investigating a stock will get you about 5% of the information that the big boys have, who actually move the stock.

In a bull, the stock or sector is growing... PE ratios almost always run ahead of the rest of the market.... largely due to the fact that the growth of the company's sales is also factored in (i.e. the PEG ratio)

Also, stock movement usually LEADS actual company results... so by the time some event happens in a company, it is already priced into the stock.

FlyingIguana 01-13-2006 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions
Do any of you guys do stock picks based on PRICE to BOOK VALUE balanced with the standard EPS ratio?

price to cash flow. i also look at the growth in the p/e ratio but earnings is such a dirty number anyways. cash flow is much cleaner

FlyingIguana 01-13-2006 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
Don?t be ridiculous. Numbers are for suckers.

You don't need to know anything about the financial info of a company to know whether or not they are a sound investment.

Take a dart and wing it at the stock page and let it ride!

You could already be a winner!

this is pretty stupid...

knowledge means you'll be right more than you're wrong. there are inefficiencies in the market and the key is knowing what to look for.

qwe 01-31-2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by underzen
I just picked up another 1,000 shares this morning @ 32.46 and its trading at 33.73. I was out in the mall yesterday and every store was sold out of Under Armour and almost every retailer on Amazon.com has it back ordered. Cramer also wrote a great little article on Realmoney.com about UARM on Friday.

At 60 times earnings its expensive however its fast growing company thats making money and should blow away its earnings estimates for this current quarter. For that it could trade up in 70 - 75 times earnings and thats when I'll get out.

it's at 40 now... nice :pimp :thumbsup

spacekadet 01-31-2006 11:44 PM

sucks for all the goog fanboys -$70 after hours..

buy some gold or uranium instead.

SinisterStudios 02-01-2006 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by griffin
Yep GZFX is looking ugly, maybe some people learned a lesson.

Its going to get even uglier, it seems that we found out they bought the software to run their online rental site from a company that ripped off our propritary software that runs our site ,dvdwishes.com. We had this software custom written for our site and it was stolen and sold to games n flix to run their site. Legal action is pending against the company that resold our software to them and we are going to seek that they remove our software from their site or pay us for its use.

toddler 02-01-2006 12:27 AM

buy wireless.....like QCOM

bangman 02-01-2006 12:36 AM

Well, fuck WGAT.

B40 03-05-2006 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B40
I predicted 1-1.5c for GZFX about a year and a half ago when it was $0.30

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=38

My long pick for 2006 is LGF. Love this company, which may not be a good thing when it comes to investing...Oversold right now, the company has made a few mistakes in the past few months, but the CEO has come out and said he has learned from them and is going back to their original strategy that worked so well for them before. I think this company may qualify as a "Good to Great" company... I'm holding this for 2-5+ years

I'd buy now myself at these levels, but if I already own too much of it in my portfolio so don't want too much risk from one stock.

Crash wins best picture, up 25% so far this year :thumbsup

bDok 03-05-2006 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeOnes
google :D


google options straddle her. calls and puts. ride the rollercoaster. :thumbsup

been an epic ride. buy n sell.

:pimp :pimp :pimp

KRL 03-05-2006 11:23 PM

If anyone has stock domains e-mail me. Up to 3 words max.

[email protected]

Hey You . . . I Know You! 03-12-2006 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monk
If you are not able to identify a bull, that's not my problem.... I can. (hint:stock charts)

Really?!? Is that a fact or just your uninformed opinion? Know anything about charting or technical analysis?

What a bunch of regurgitated drivel..... sounds like you read it on a message board somewhere.

Firstly, the 3 hours you spend online investigating a stock will get you about 5% of the information that the big boys have, who actually move the stock.

In a bull, the stock or sector is growing... PE ratios almost always run ahead of the rest of the market.... largely due to the fact that the growth of the company's sales is also factored in (i.e. the PEG ratio)

Also, stock movement usually LEADS actual company results... so by the time some event happens in a company, it is already priced into the stock.


How's that Sirius stock working out for you? Oh, sure you think it will make a comeback . . . but it won't.

I say we make a bet. Do you believe pps of Sirius will be higher six months from now? You must love losing money. It has been ~two/three months and you've lost more than 30% of your investment. I would love to hear more about your charting and technical analysis and how it is vital to losing one third of your investment.

Not to rub it in, but I doubled my money in Sirius, got out at $8.10, and found a legit stock to try to double again. Over the last two months I've only had a gain of 60% and I know it is going to continue to go up. Sometimes I wonder if I should have held onto that siri dog so that I wouldn't continue to get so excited about all of my investment profits.

Good luck to everyone who is hanging onto Sirius hoping for a miracle. You will need it.

How great is it to have FACTS prove who is right and who is wrong in this type of debate? I'll post an update in another couple of months to see how much more siri has gone down and how much higher my stock has gone.

Go analyze your "informed" opinion and please continue to ignore my "uninformed" opinion.


History proves predictors to be correct or moronic. Be careful who you listen to.

Morgan 03-12-2006 11:36 AM

keep an eye on NVDA

they've been kicking ass lately, not a fast mover, but new technology is about to be released which may cause a good jump.

Nvidia has developed a state of the art video processing unit for cellular phones that will take cell phone/pda graphics to the next next level.

Monk 03-16-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
How's that Sirius stock working out for you?


hahaha.... I love it! Did you post this on a Sunday specifically so I would not be likely to see it? It only took you 2 months to reply.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
It has been ~two/three months and you've lost more than 30% of your investment. I would love to hear more about your charting and technical analysis and how it is vital to losing one third of your investment.

Not to rub it in, but I doubled my money in Sirius, got out at $8.10, and found a legit stock to try to double again. Over the last two months I've only had a gain of 60% and I know it is going to continue to go up. Sometimes I wonder if I should have held onto that siri dog so that I wouldn't continue to get so excited about all of my investment profits.

How great is it to have FACTS prove who is right and who is wrong in this type of debate?

Yeah... must be great to have the 'facts'. Is it a fact that I have held SIRI since my initial post? Apparently you like to invent 'facts'.... maybe your 60% return is another 'fact'?

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=siri,uu[e,a]waclyyay[d20030312,20061231][pb34!b8!c10!b200!b50!d20,2][vc60][iub14!la12,26,9!lh14,3!lc20!lg][J37280665,Y]&pref=G
I sold SIRI when it crossed below the diagonal line in this chart as that indicated some intermediate weakness..... and I made money on the transaction, thanks.

I actually came to this thread to post that its a good time to buy back into SIRI. If you look at the chart above, you can see that SIRI has a support/resistance line in the 4.20 area (which it has bounced off of 6 times in the past per the chart). This is a good indication the stock will find support in this area again. You can set a stop loss below the line (I would suggest 3.95 or so in this case) to give it some room to move. Normally, I would suggest a stop just under that line... but 4.00 is a round number and there is a chance it will want to go down and hit that. If you are risk averse though, you could set your stop at 4.10

The other reason I like it is because of the huge volume on its last big up move... now it has bounced around between 4 and 8 on pretty light volume.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey You . . . I Know You!
I say we make a bet. Do you believe pps of Sirius will be higher six months from now? You must love losing money.

Sounds good. Let's paper trade this stock for the next month (or 6 months, if you like) Each of us can either be long or short or on the sidelines at any particular time. We will each start with $10,000 paper money and see who ends up with more money at the end of the month. All trades must be announced immediately, so the purchase or sale price can be verified i.e. you can't come in here hours or days after the fact claiming you made a trade at a particular price.

Winner gets $10,000 real dollars from the loser.

Oh, and feel free to post your 60% winner stock transactions going forward, would love to see them.

BigB 03-16-2006 08:41 AM

Welp..

Kramer from MadMoney made me good $$ this last year
I gots to thank him for Hansen Juices HANS

With the delay just announced on the Sony PS3...
... Im gonna buy some Microsoft.



Big B

Monk 03-16-2006 12:21 PM

bump for the stock wiz

David - PG 03-16-2006 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallst
long google - short gm and ford

Whoever followed your genius idea and went long in Google and short in GM burned their fingers pretty bad.

They say 90% of stock short term traders lose money in the long run. Reading this thread I have no doubt that number is about right.

David - PG 03-16-2006 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan
Nvidia has developed a state of the art video processing unit for cellular phones that will take cell phone/pda graphics to the next next level.

How do you know that this will move their stock? When will it have an impact? This quarter? Next quarter? 03/2009? Should I short or long now? With what % of my portfolio? What stop loss?

This appears more like a gambling thread lol

Monk 03-16-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David - PG
How do you know that this will move their stock? When will it have an impact? This quarter? Next quarter? 03/2009? Should I short or long now? With what % of my portfolio? What stop loss?


ask 'Hey You'.... he knows this stuff too.

Monk 05-09-2006 11:27 AM

not liking the action in SIRI lately.... I am bailing out if it goes below its previous low of 4.20

B40 11-15-2006 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B40 (Post 8954854)
I predicted 1-1.5c for GZFX about a year and a half ago when it was $0.30

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=38

My long pick for 2006 is LGF. Love this company, which may not be a good thing when it comes to investing...Oversold right now, the company has made a few mistakes in the past few months, but the CEO has come out and said he has learned from them and is going back to their original strategy that worked so well for them before. I think this company may qualify as a "Good to Great" company... I'm holding this for 2-5+ years

I'd buy now myself at these levels, but if I already own too much of it in my portfolio so don't want too much risk from one stock.

Closed the year at $7.70, now trading at $11+

45%+ gain so far this year

tehHinjew 11-15-2006 01:20 PM

awsome thread
ive been watching siri for over 6 months now and its going NO WHERE

.~. 01-03-2008 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monk (Post 9478439)
hahaha.... I love it! Did you post this on a Sunday specifically so I would not be likely to see it? It only took you 2 months to reply.




Yeah... must be great to have the 'facts'. Is it a fact that I have held SIRI since my initial post? Apparently you like to invent 'facts'.... maybe your 60% return is another 'fact'?

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=siri,uu[e,a]waclyyay[d20030312,20061231][pb34!b8!c10!b200!b50!d20,2][vc60][iub14!la12,26,9!lh14,3!lc20!lg][J37280665,Y]&pref=G
I sold SIRI when it crossed below the diagonal line in this chart as that indicated some intermediate weakness..... and I made money on the transaction, thanks.

I actually came to this thread to post that its a good time to buy back into SIRI. If you look at the chart above, you can see that SIRI has a support/resistance line in the 4.20 area (which it has bounced off of 6 times in the past per the chart). This is a good indication the stock will find support in this area again. You can set a stop loss below the line (I would suggest 3.95 or so in this case) to give it some room to move. Normally, I would suggest a stop just under that line... but 4.00 is a round number and there is a chance it will want to go down and hit that. If you are risk averse though, you could set your stop at 4.10

The other reason I like it is because of the huge volume on its last big up move... now it has bounced around between 4 and 8 on pretty light volume.





Sounds good. Let's paper trade this stock for the next month (or 6 months, if you like) Each of us can either be long or short or on the sidelines at any particular time. We will each start with $10,000 paper money and see who ends up with more money at the end of the month. All trades must be announced immediately, so the purchase or sale price can be verified i.e. you can't come in here hours or days after the fact claiming you made a trade at a particular price.

Winner gets $10,000 real dollars from the loser.

Oh, and feel free to post your 60% winner stock transactions going forward, would love to see them.


Great stock analysis you dim wit!!!


DDDUUUUUHHHHHH???? It is so easy looking back and explaining. What about the "smart guy" who told you YEARS ago to get the fuck out of SIRI???


YOU KNOW NOW HOW WRONG YOU WERE - RIGHT??????


16-Mar-06 4.51 4.90 4.48 4.89 53,849,200 4.89

31-Dec-07 3.03 3.21 2.97 3.15 26,879,900 3.15





Give me my $10,0000.00 - REAL DOLLARS - you pos stock moron!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks!

TTiger 03-16-2009 10:09 PM

so whats up now$ who have done money, who's predicted the best hit and the worst hit?

$5 submissions 03-17-2009 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTiger (Post 15638097)
so whats up now$ who have done money, who's predicted the best hit and the worst hit?

Would be interesting to see the figures

TTiger 03-17-2009 06:33 AM

c,mon dude don,t be shy, almost everyone have lots tons of money :)


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