thanks!
 

Thanks for the heads up mate :thumbsup i had one of them and have now deleted them dirty scum bags :mad:

bump bump

great thread

expose the fucks and let them hang

Good point, I'm sure that happens. I would have assumed that at least one rep from any of the accused companies would have posted in the last 4 hours in response to this but since they haven't... fuck em.

Bingo! It doesn't even need to be for a day, say there are 10 rebills that will happen between 8pm and 9pm, that's an extra $100-$150 in the program owner's pocket...

PLEASE ccbill, set up an email notification system! Verotel already does this.

sig time

WOW. I read this thread about an hour ago and have since then been checking a lot of my ccbill sponsors and the very first one I checked is definitely shaving.
Asian Amateur Cash is shaving from the supposed 50% down to 44%...pics to prove.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8...eurcash0kg.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5...urcash15wj.jpg
Sad cause that guy has some good sites. Too bad for him. BUSTED!

bump. people need to see this shit.

people STILL do this? pretty blatantly too, i can't say im surprised unfortunately.

True :thumbsup

http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...ction-cash.jpg

99 and life, same thing

Nope. It should say unlimited like it does here: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8...eurcash0kg.jpg

I don't use CCBill because they never seem to convert for me but is it possible that the 44% is what you get after splitting the processing fee?

Shayde, thanks for sharing this with us.

The processing fee has nothing to do with the percentage which is listed in the system. It is automatically taken from sales generated by affiliates. Since it's listed at 44% now it will be taken down to 29% take home for the affiliate. :(

An email notification system would be a great addition.

fucking cheaters :(

Under my PerfectionCash account it shows:

"Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills"

Bump... Someone needs to be explaining some shit to us.

With Ron Harris I have 23 sales & 5 rebills with them in the past year, so i did get some rebills but man they are some SHITTY ass rebills (this is from the site GenevuiresSecretSpot.com )

All i have to say if you cant pick up the phone and call a sponsor/program you shouldnt be doing business with them..

I dont do biz with faceless companies either i've seen many come and go and fuck webmasters

proc fee is NOT automatic with CCBill. program owner has to decide if he's gonna pay the processing fee himself or pass onto affiliate also the processing fee is a split when he passes on so if the the total proc fee is 15% affiliates pay 7.5% off it. There are sponsors who pay the proc fees themselves so with them 50% would be more like 57.5% equivalent of sponsors that split proc fees with affiliates.

I would not exactly call this shaving. The signup is $9.95 and the flat payout on rebills is $4, which looks logic after the fees?

But thanks for head up on the others :thumbsup

That just doesn't make any sense :helpme
Though there are no guarantees that you can't get shaved regardless of what setup the program uses, at least with CCbill you allways can detect the cheating, with cascading scripts you have no way of knowing and will have to rely on faith in the program.

Just look at the example posted, how would you ever detect that you where being shaved of your rebills after 1, 2 or more rebills if your sponsor uses a cascading script and you have no access to the prosessor settings ?
With CCbill on the other hand, you can log in and check it right there in your stats area.

So, you not liking CCbill, that's fair enough.. But not promoting CCbill sites due to Fraud or shaving that's Bulls*beep*t as it would be 10 times easier/less risky shaving your ass through a script, than it would through CCbill :2 cents:

With that said, I'm wondering why nobody is suing sponsors caught cheating.. This IS fraud and they ARE stealing the money you earned.. in any other case where people where caught stealing money from you wouldn't you eigther kick their ass or call the police ? Then why not do so when you catch somone shaving ??

Didn't Lensman say if you post " SEE SIG " you are banned ?

The 99 rebills is not a problem, actually I think that it´s the max you can set at CCbill... anyway, that´s more than 8 years... Nobody has a membership for 8 years...

But the 0 rebills is a problem, I´ll be checking my affiliate account with CCbill right now.

Just checked my accounts, looks OK...

The 99 rebill must have fixed, since all my accounts now says unlimited. But 99 was the max a while ago...

Ccbill has the email notification.....but when u sign up to a new sponsor you have to click details (in your admin screen) and click email notification.
I asked them to set it as Yes by default, but they say it can't be done.
With all respect to ccbill, that's one buig heap of shit.

Anyways...it's there.

I figured this thread needed another bump.

It says, "Receive Webmaster Emails:" I always thought that setting was for emails from the webmaster (like newsletters, promotions, etc.) not system emails from ccbill. They should have a setting for webmaster emails and ccbill emails.

Glad I don't use any of those.

Sounds like complicity to fraud...

Let's not mistake what is actaully happening.

A couple of things to note here... CCBill's contract is with the site owner, not the affiliate. Their legal obligations extend to the site owner and that's it.

Are all of these programs using CCBill to cut checks? If they are using a cascading system I don't think the CCBill settings make any difference to the payouts...

Would you like these listed on www.fuckemoff.com - a new site im working on?

Ok here's what I've found out so far.

I just got off the phone with CCBill and the guy I talked to said that when a programs details says Zero, it means they have rebills turned off on their end and that they don't offer rebills.

Much like this one.

JosephEvans
http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...seph-evans.jpg
http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...ph-evans-2.jpg

So hopefully one of the affiliates can come forth and shed some light on the subject.

Oh, one of my fellow webmasters contacted Ron Harris, and this is what he had to say.

Which to me is a very good explanation, so if you're promoting Ron Harris, please continue to do so.

1 Down, 4 More To Go :thumbsup

We asked for that last year...when this problem first came up..

"Sign up for Josephevans.com Affilate Program today and make 50% of every signup you refer to us."

Hmm... if you read the wording it doesn't actually say anything about paying for rebills. Most of us in the adult industry tend to accept signup+rebills as the norm, but perhaps some people work differently. Best to ask the site owner what's happening.

oooh i see.

thx for sharing the info...

That is a great idea. CCbill please take note :)

note to sponsors...please do not "trim" the shemp...thank you..
http://www.shemp.com/shave2.jpg

Spamming your shit in every thread is lame. Welcome to my ignore list :thumbsup

Last I checked you could only set ccbill to 99 re-bills, and not for forever. Has this changed?

is it sig whore day or something or is it spring break? thanks for the info shayde

lol, wtf? 4 month old thread?

whyed you bump this?