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twist 01-10-2006 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Sorry, but let me repeat:

"(c) using images from a sponsor where the sponsor may not have rights to allow reuse or use by others,"

The only assurance you have that the images are being used legally is the claims by the sponsor. If perfect10 dude is making claims with no backing, well, then hegre or whoever needs to get after him. There is no way as an affiliate of hegre that you can be aware or or party to the agreements that may have been made between these two organizations. Perfect10 would appear to be claiming that third party use was not part of their arrangement, or that perfect10 does not clearly understand that those uses would be. It would be up to Hegre to contact google and inform them that the perfect10's claim on those images are NOT correct, and that they should disregard the DMCA claim.

As a third party, you don't know. Complain to the sponsor don't complain to google - you have no standing.

Alex

Modelflats already stated that they sold perfect 10 content not vice versa (not exclusive content, but content that still is being used for modelflats). Still waiting for Hegre's response but i am pretty sure that will something along the same lines.

remii 01-10-2006 02:50 PM

Response
 
response from Norm:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=562023

oyvind 01-10-2006 03:53 PM

Hi all!

In reference to today's discussions related to perfect10's dmca notice to google, we at hegre-art would just like to inform to everybody that it was a misunderstanding that caused google to show legal affiliates as infringers. this situation has now been cleared and no links will be removed. we have provided google with a complete list of our affiliates that will be given amnesty from any actions from google's side. This means all affiliates kan continue to use our images like before to promote our site.

TheMaster 01-10-2006 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex
Most of the people I have seen posting in this thread either (a) run celeb sites, where they have little or no chance of having rights to images, (b) misused sponsor content, mostly by copying hosted free galleries and using the images without permission, (c) using images from a sponsor where the sponsor may not have rights to allow reuse or use by others, or (d) are amoung the rare ones that appear to have valid licence and rights on the images.

My feeling is that only the people in (d) have anything to say here.

Alex

Myself and many others got affected because we used promo material from sites as Hegre and Model Flats, to which perfect dickhead has no claim to, the only thing why they are included is because those models also modelled on perfect10 !!!

he claims to sole right to use certain models it seems and claims pictures that where taken for other sites

Can anyone in the US (I'm in Europe), countersue this guy, he's making people loose money all over: affiliates, paysites, model agencies & models
I've already heard people say they will no longer promote with certain models, because of this bullshit

TheMaster 01-10-2006 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx
Traffic Rank for perfect10.com: 71,172

What a joke

that's about 2000-3000 a day right?

TheMaster 01-10-2006 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc
As for my affiliates, if it took down normal se listings then it would suck. If it removed them from images only, then I wouldn't care.

that's the point, they ALSO deleted normal google listings, not only images
that's what so outrages, he's making people loose money, by having their SE listings deleted

TonyB 01-10-2006 04:12 PM

How come perfect10 didn't notify the website owners instead of just going to Google to do their dirty work??? Also, why didn't google just block the specifc pages where the models appeared instead of blocking entire domains?

This is bullshit no matter how you slice it

TheMaster 01-10-2006 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyB
How come perfect10 didn't notify the website owners instead of just going to Google to do their dirty work??? Also, why didn't google just block the specifc pages where the models appeared instead of blocking entire domains?

This is bullshit no matter how you slice it

probably because this way he can eliminate the competition, he had newnudecash and twistys blocked
I mean in the list, you know what he searches for, not "perfect 10 Keity", but "Hegre Keity"

elnenpetit 01-10-2006 04:47 PM

So I think we must place a combined lawsuit against Perfect 10 NOW! The right is a daily sum for damages for every banned day and for every website, for example:

$1000 x 30 days banned x 100 websites affected = $ 3 millions


1) http://www.canal96.com/

2) http://www.glam0ur.com/

3) http://www.sweet-pleasure.com/

4) http://www.rubias19.com/

5) http://www.hembrasdivinas.com/

Juanj 01-10-2006 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elnenpetit
So I think we must place a combined lawsuit against Perfect 10 NOW! The right is a daily sum for damages for every banned day and for every website, for example:

$1000 x 30 days banned x 100 websites affected = $ 3 millions


1) http://www.canal96.com/

2) http://www.glam0ur.com/

3) http://www.sweet-pleasure.com/

4) http://www.rubias19.com/

5) http://www.hembrasdivinas.com/

Count on me

6) http://www.kindgirls.com

TonyB 01-10-2006 04:52 PM

Take a look at this...

http://google.com/support/bin/answer...topic=0&type=f

"Please note that you will be liable for damages (including costs and attorneys' fees) if you materially misrepresent that a product or activity is infringing your copyrights. Indeed, in a recent case (please see http://www.onlinepolicy.org/action/l...opg_v_diebold/ for more information), a company that sent an infringement notification seeking removal of online materials that were protected by the fair use doctrine was ordered to pay such costs and attorneys fees. The company agreed to pay over $100,000. Accordingly, if you are not sure whether material available online infringes your copyright, we suggest that you first contact an attorney."

We definately have a lawsuit against them on our hands. In my case I was NOT infringing on their material. They are in the wrong.

blas 01-10-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

We definately have a lawsuit against them on our hands. In my case I was NOT infringing on their material. They are in the wrong.

Totally true... so, what are you waiting to join the list? :-)

RawAlex 01-10-2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaster
Myself and many others got affected because we used promo material from sites as Hegre and Model Flats, to which perfect dickhead has no claim to, the only thing why they are included is because those models also modelled on perfect10 !!!

he claims to sole right to use certain models it seems and claims pictures that where taken for other sites

Can anyone in the US (I'm in Europe), countersue this guy, he's making people loose money all over: affiliates, paysites, model agencies & models
I've already heard people say they will no longer promote with certain models, because of this bullshit

Yes, and hegre-art took steps to clear the issue up, no? There is nothing you as an affiliate can do directly with google to clear it up, you need the owners of the images or the people who have granted you the rights to show up and take care of the issue, as hegre is doing.

WHile "perfect dickhead" may or may not have claim, you have nothing in your personal possession to prove you have a right to it - only hegre's word will do that. So complain to those who can fix it, don't tilt at windmills.

Alex

CamRabbit 01-10-2006 05:07 PM

Perfect10 went too fucking far this time.

I hope a few of the bigegr webmasters band together and sue the fuck out of P10.

Slicer 01-10-2006 05:17 PM

Add Me To the List
 
7) Http://www.badgirlsblog.com :321GFY

TonyB 01-10-2006 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oyvind
Hi all!

In reference to today's discussions related to perfect10's dmca notice to google, we at hegre-art would just like to inform to everybody that it was a misunderstanding that caused google to show legal affiliates as infringers. this situation has now been cleared and no links will be removed. we have provided google with a complete list of our affiliates that will be given amnesty from any actions from google's side. This means all affiliates kan continue to use our images like before to promote our site.

You gotta be kidding?? How do you know the domains of everyone using your content legally? When I signed up I put in the main domain I was using and not all of my other domains that I also promoted them from, and I assume that's the same with everyone else.

This situation wont be resolved until perfect10 removes the DMCA complaint completely.

twist 01-11-2006 12:19 AM

I am really curious how long it will take google to fix this. In the meantime we're still fucked.

slavdogg 01-11-2006 12:24 AM

this is funny

""Google is also listing password hacking websites in its search results which contain perfect 10 passwords and passwords for other websites in which Perfect 10 owns copyrighted images.""

Perfect 10 used to support these sites and buy traffic from them

Trax 01-11-2006 01:43 AM

why don't you guys organize? You are leaving money on the table here... lots of it
I'd love to see norm thought a little lesson

Goose 01-11-2006 01:44 AM

I give it a bump - just to make sure :)

Doctor Dre 01-11-2006 01:45 AM

100x perfect 10 fucking it up for webmasters

Fizzgig 01-11-2006 01:46 AM

Doctor Dre is on the ball.

RAM 01-11-2006 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
100x perfect 10 fucking it up for webmasters

101 sig spots for Perfect 10 fucking it up.

Doctor Dre 01-11-2006 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAM
101 sig spots for Perfect 10 fucking it up.

You're a little late in the game aren't you ?

TheMaster 01-11-2006 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twist
I am really curious how long it will take google to fix this. In the meantime we're still fucked.

jep, it already cost me money, hegre traffic down 25%

fris 01-11-2006 04:30 AM

thebestporn.com must be at a loss for all their se placements.

Castiga2 01-11-2006 04:41 AM

Add me too
 
8) http://www.castigados.com :thumbsup

TheMaster 01-11-2006 09:04 AM

add me too

9) http://www.model-archive.com

TheMaster 01-11-2006 01:03 PM

anyone unbanned already?

xxxice 01-11-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
thebestporn.com must be at a loss for all their se placements.

i don't see them on the list ?

xxxice 01-11-2006 01:26 PM

Let me just make sure I got this right? So dont use herge or met galleries for thumbs on my tgp cause some how they are involved with Perfect 10? Sorry if dumb question ...

TheMaster 01-11-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanderweb
Let me just make sure I got this right? So dont use herge or met galleries for thumbs on my tgp cause some how they are involved with Perfect 10? Sorry if dumb question ...

they're not involved, some of the models are the same, that's all

for ModelFlats, the perfect10 guy bought 300 photos on a non exclusive base, but he's claiming he only can use them, which is bogus

thing is it's not a serious claim, but since they are in a lawsuit with google, google agreed to ban the sites, they didn't to their work

ModelFlats and Hegre are now trying to get the sites unbanned that used their content

Wiggles 01-11-2006 02:01 PM

perfect10 sues at the drop of a dime, people know them just because of that alone. its all publicity. good or bad.

xxxice 01-11-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMaster
they're not involved, some of the models are the same, that's all

for ModelFlats, the perfect10 guy bought 300 photos on a non exclusive base, but he's claiming he only can use them, which is bogus

thing is it's not a serious claim, but since they are in a lawsuit with google, google agreed to ban the sites, they didn't to their work

ModelFlats and Hegre are now trying to get the sites unbanned that used their content

Thanks :thumbsup

TonyB 01-11-2006 02:22 PM

Hegre is to blame as well. We should using their content too.

prairie 01-11-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oyvind
Hi all!

In reference to today's discussions related to perfect10's dmca notice to google, we at hegre-art would just like to inform to everybody that it was a misunderstanding that caused google to show legal affiliates as infringers. this situation has now been cleared and no links will be removed. we have provided google with a complete list of our affiliates that will be given amnesty from any actions from google's side. This means all affiliates kan continue to use our images like before to promote our site.

And we can expect our url's to be removed from the list when? My domain does not show up on google whatsoever right now and I am losing $100's of dollars a day due to no fault of my own...all because I was a hegre-art affiliate?

TheMaster 01-11-2006 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prairie
And we can expect our url's to be removed from the list when? My domain does not show up on google whatsoever right now and I am losing $100's of dollars a day due to no fault of my own...all because I was a hegre-art affiliate?

no, because perfect10 are lying bastards, that's all, who will he target next?
Met-Art, Playboy, Penthouse

hey he did it with Hegre, ModelFlats, BumbleCash & Twistys, no one is safe

TheMaster 01-11-2006 06:37 PM

who got unbanned?

chaze 01-11-2006 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose
I'm not sure if this was posted already - if so, then it definitely can't hurt posting it again:
http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=898

they fucking made google ban me and dozens of other honest webmasters because of what they call "using of infringing content".Although it's only the mainpage atm, it is most likely that it will go on this way.
I and many others got banned for using regular sponsors content from hegre etc.

Those guys from perfect10 and their lawyers poker too high.
To all webmasters: we need to start global legal actions against Perfect 10 - this thing is very serious

One big :321GFY goes out to perfect 10 for trying to ruin the whole business.

Ya well Hustler fucked me and people still stick up for them when I bitch.

Too much ass kissing going around....

METStaff 01-12-2006 12:12 AM

Met
 
Just to clarify...We (MET-ART), did not sell, or license our images to Perfect10. Indeed there's an interest in our content from many sources, but we did not bend because of lucrative offers.
I do not believe we're involved in this craziness, but actually this thred clarifies many scary intents. As usual, it all boils down to greed, which always leads to bad decisions.


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