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Jace 01-30-2006 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
I know a lot of drug users, and can honestly say I've never seen someone addicted to weed. Please don't use "addiction" to reference any activity which someone finds enjoyable - I'm referring to true addictions, to chemicals such as nicotine, alcohol, cocaine, etc, which do create cravings and withdrawal symptoms.

I actually had a friend in high school that ended up dependent on weed, psychologically addicted.....and I have met a few others here and there in my life as well...but you are right, not near as many as a checmical addiction would have

but I also have known a shit load of criminals that only smoked pot....pot is one of those things that doesn't make you become a criminal, which is why you don't hear about it in relation to criminal activity

edit: 51 POSTS FOR THE LEGALIZATION OF DRUGS!!!!!

OsirisID 01-30-2006 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
I know a lot of drug users, and can honestly say I've never seen someone addicted to weed. Please don't use "addiction" to reference any activity which someone finds enjoyable - I'm referring to true addictions, to chemicals such as nicotine, alcohol, cocaine, etc, which do create cravings and withdrawal symptoms.


Indeed, man. Indeed..

kernelpanic 01-30-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck
Ok, sorry, its not addicting. Its just smoking 10 joints a day.
That makes code addicts non addicts as well...theyre just snorting coke all day.

Thanks for the explanation.

I check my E-Mail at least 10 times per day. Am I addicted to E-Mail, or is it just something which I enjoy doing?

Hundies 01-30-2006 09:40 PM

I vowed to never get in a drug argument again, otherwise I would be backing Franck up 100%. There is so much misinformation, it's just insane.

Ok, fuck it
Osiris, just because you don't hear of accidents etc happening with weed as much as alcohol related ones, doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe it's just Pennsylvania (I know, hardcore) but we have had many deaths and crimes attributed to just weed. For some reason people think it's safe to drive stoned, and in others, weed brings out the worst in them.

As much as you don't want to admit it, weed is a drug. A drug that greatly effects your thinking, and does have long-term psychological (if not physical) effects. This is a fact.

By all means, smoke up or do whatever you do, but don't come in here preaching about how safe and harmless weed is, because it isn't. I'm sorry.

Dirty F 01-30-2006 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
I check my E-Mail at least 10 times per day. Am I addicted to E-Mail, or is it just something which I enjoy doing?


I snort a line of coke at least 10 times per day. Am I addicted to coke, or is it just something which I enjoy doing?

Dirty F 01-30-2006 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hundies
I vowed to never get in a drug argument again, otherwise I would be backing Franck up 100%. There is so much misinformation, it's just insane.

Ok, fuck it
Osiris, just because you don't hear of accidents etc happening with weed as much as alcohol related ones, doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe it's just Pennsylvania (I know, hardcore) but we have had many deaths and crimes attributed to just weed. For some reason people think it's safe to drive stoned, and in others, weed brings out the worst in them.

As much as you don't want to admit it, weed is a drug. A drug that greatly effects your thinking, and does have long-term psychological (if not physical) effects. This is a fact.

By all means, smoke up or do whatever you do, but don't come in here preaching about how safe and harmless weed is, because it isn't. I'm sorry.


Someone with a brain. Thanks.

And for all you crybabies, i have no problem with weed, or coke, or whatever. If you want to use it do it as much as you want. Just stop pretending YOU are the only person on this planet who can handle it. Stop pretending you are not addicted. Stop Pretending your drug of choice isnt bad. And stop putting other peoples life in danger by driving while being stoned.

OsirisID 01-30-2006 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hundies
I vowed to never get in a drug argument again, otherwise I would be backing Franck up 100%. There is so much misinformation, it's just insane.

Ok, fuck it
Osiris, just because you don't hear of accidents etc happening with weed as much as alcohol related ones, doesn't mean they don't exist. Maybe it's just Pennsylvania (I know, hardcore) but we have had many deaths and crimes attributed to just weed. For some reason people think it's safe to drive stoned, and in others, weed brings out the worst in them.

As much as you don't want to admit it, weed is a drug. A drug that greatly effects your thinking, and does have long-term psychological (if not physical) effects. This is a fact.

By all means, smoke up or do whatever you do, but don't come in here preaching about how safe and harmless weed is, because it isn't. I'm sorry.


Hundies, I never once denied the fact that weed is a drug. Based on my own personal experiences though, I feel that it's a lot safer compared to the other shit people put in their bodies.



Francis, you really need to get your definition of an addict straight.

toddler 01-30-2006 09:53 PM

There very much is pschological addiction to weed. I'd also say that in some cases there is physical addition, depending on usage over time and amounts.

and thats all I'm saying

kernelpanic 01-30-2006 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck
I snort a line of coke at least 10 times per day. Am I addicted to coke, or is it just something which I enjoy doing?

My point is that addiction is not the recurrance of a behavior - addiction is a compulsive desire to repeat behavior, with little to no regard for that behavior's consequences. I wouldn't go so far as to call potheads "compulsive".

Yes, weed is a drug, but it doesn't lead to a strong dependancy as do many, many other drugs. I don't buy into the idea that someone is "hooked on weed".

Dirty F 01-30-2006 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
I don't buy into the idea that someone is "hooked on weed".

:1orglaugh

Do a coffeeshop tour in Holland.

Swanks 01-30-2006 10:12 PM

http://www.daap.ca/images/cocaine.jpg

BlueQuartz 01-30-2006 10:13 PM

The biggest bullshit is this " legal " CRAP - fuckin alcohol and cigarettes are legal yet combined they are responsible for more death and disease than all the illegal drugs combined. So wether it is legal or not really has nothing to do with the effect the drug will have on you personally.

Anything in moderation is fine. One hit of smack, lsd, coke or beer will not kill you but the problem lies in wether or not you get addicted. The facts of the matter are is that people take drugs because the make you feel good. If you can do your drug of choice in moderation and it doesnt have a detrimental effect on your mind,body or soul than so be it. Nothin wrong with that as far as I am concerned. The illegal drugs are certainly worth more thought though as choosing to do them in any quantity could have potentially devasting effects on your life if you are caught by the law.

Let me tell all the stoners out there that you are fooling yourself if you think pot is harmless. Take it from a guy who has probably smoked more dope than bob marley himself that marijuana, especiallys todays hydroponic strains, will absolutely cause you massive damage if you smoke it continuously and in large amounts. One joint every now and then is no worse than a ciggie. As I said earlier its dependant on wether or not you are addicted.

BlueQuartz 01-30-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kernelpanic
Yes, weed is a drug, but it doesn't lead to a strong dependancy as do many, many other drugs. I don't buy into the idea that someone is "hooked on weed".

TOTALLY INCORRECT

JamesK2 01-30-2006 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz
TOTALLY INCORRECT

Have you ever tried weed?

I definately find it wayyyyyyyy less addictive as coke, XTC or even cigarettes.

OsirisID 01-30-2006 10:43 PM

People that let themselves get addicted to anything are weak. And to me, weakness is based on the individual. I have used several other drugs in the past, and yet I have not become an addict to any of them.

BlueQuartz 01-30-2006 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK
Have you ever tried weed?

I definately find it wayyyyyyyy less addictive as coke, XTC or even cigarettes.

exactly - youve just confirmed what I said - less addictive implies that it is indeed addictive. I was responding to the guy who said it wasnt addictive at all

and yes I have smoked more pot than many of you combined. At my poeak smoking period I smoked 2 ounces a week every week for months. When It comes to pot I am a fucking certified eggspert

BlueQuartz 01-30-2006 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OsirisID
People that let themselves get addicted to anything are weak. And to me, weakness is based on the individual. I have used several other drugs in the past, and yet I have not become an addict to any of them.

no shit sherlock!!! Just becuase YOU havent become addicted doesnt mean that drugs are not addictive - what sort of stupid logic is that!? You are clearly 18 and have very little life experience.

Keep doing as many drugs as you can man - thats the way to go FOR SURE!! :1orglaugh

Dirty F 01-30-2006 11:51 PM

Thanks BlueQuartz. The second person to make sense. I dont see how these guys cannot understand it. Its not exactly rocket science. My only guess is theyre too stoned to think clear.

BlueQuartz 01-31-2006 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OsirisID
Seems like you're the only idiot here.

I'm not high at the moment. So your assumptions that I'm a pot head that's stoned 24/7 is way off the mark. I do smoke almost daily, but I'm not always high. There's a difference. And certainly not addicted since I don't go fucking completely mental if I don't have a smoke for a while. Unlike nicotene addicts that go mad because they can't have a puff, or the alcoholic that can't function because he doesn't have his drink for the day and is pissy with everyone.


I don't know ANY pot smokers, including myself that are weed dependant. On the other hand, I know a ton of smokers that freak out at the mere thought of being on the last cigarette in their pack. You're probably one of them aren't you, you weak bitch.

Here you admit that you smoke "almost daily" then you say that you're not addicted because you don't get high ROFL! So why the fuck do you smoke then if you are so strong ya fucking big hero!!?!! Mate you are so fuckin addcited its a joke. I could see that in 5 minutes and I've never even met you. You need to take a good look at yourself before you go calling others weak.

H Y P O C R I T E & A D D I C T

JamesK2 01-31-2006 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz
exactly - youve just confirmed what I said - less addictive implies that it is indeed addictive. I was responding to the guy who said it wasnt addictive at all

and yes I have smoked more pot than many of you combined. At my poeak smoking period I smoked 2 ounces a week every week for months. When It comes to pot I am a fucking certified eggspert

Yeah, I thought you ment weed was just as addictive as other drugs. Because it definately is not.

Weed = bad for your health, good for your mind, a drug and is less addictive than most other drugs. That's what I was trying to say. :thumbsup

BlueQuartz 01-31-2006 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesK
Yeah, I thought you ment weed was just as addictive as other drugs. Because it definately is not.

Weed = bad for your health, good for your mind, a drug and is less addictive than most other drugs. That's what I was trying to say. :thumbsup


Weed in excess is NOT good for your mind that is total garbage mate.

If you smoke a small amount and not to excess then it wont effect your mind AS MUCH as if you smoked a bag every day for years but I am telling you man that you smoke pot for a long time and it WILL fuck your head up.

MetaMan 01-31-2006 12:24 AM

i simple do not give a fuck what any of you wannabe potheads or wannabe big brothers have to say (franck) who the fuck cares what kind of drugs people are doing? i really do not.

everyone on GFY sits around like they are scientists, no one on here has a fucking clue so stop talking like you do.

there is and always will be BOTH SIDES TO THE ARGUMENT.

JamesK2 01-31-2006 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz
Weed in excess is NOT good for your mind that is total garbage mate.

If you smoke a small amount and not to excess then it wont effect your mind AS MUCH as if you smoked a bag every day for years but I am telling you man that you smoke pot for a long time and it WILL fuck your head up.

I ment it was good against stress. When I smoke a joint, I feel relaxed and calm.

And marijuana does not do anything permanent damage to your brains :thumbsup

BlueQuartz 01-31-2006 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
i simple do not give a fuck what any of you wannabe potheads or wannabe big brothers have to say (franck) who the fuck cares what kind of drugs people are doing? i really do not.

everyone on GFY sits around like they are scientists, no one on here has a fucking clue so stop talking like you do.

there is and always will be BOTH SIDES TO THE ARGUMENT.


who is talking like a scientist mother fucker I was talking from personal experience if I cant comment on pot after smoking the shit for half my life what the fuck can I comment on

and you obvioulsy care enough to post so dont come at us with that shit

franck maybe a wannabe big brother but who the fuck are you ? A WANNABE REFEREE???

I will say whatever the fuck I like so 3 - 2 - 1 ......well you're a gfy addict so you know the rest

MetaMan 01-31-2006 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz
who is talking like a scientist mother fucker I was talking from personal experience if I cant comment on pot after smoking the shit for half my life what the fuck can I comment on

and you obvioulsy care enough to post so dont come at us with that shit

franck maybe a wannabe big brother but who the fuck are you ? A WANNABE REFEREE???

I will say whatever the fuck I like so 3 - 2 - 1 ......well you're a gfy addict so you know the rest

you're talking to this OsirisID guy like you fucking know him, wow you smoked pot for half your life??? who gives a fuck, i know tons and tons of people who have done the same and have completly different views then you.

just because you were some fuckup and decided to blame it on weed doesnt make it a bad drug.

you have already admitted your head is fucked up, and you are talking like you know everyones expierience.

drugs affect different people differently,

its the same with any kind of over the counter drugs or coffee for that matter.

you're not a scientist, now please hop back into that kangaroo pouch and guide him off the nearest cliff.

OsirisID 01-31-2006 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz
no shit sherlock!!! Just becuase YOU havent become addicted doesnt mean that drugs are not addictive - what sort of stupid logic is that!? You are clearly 18 and have very little life experience.

Keep doing as many drugs as you can man - thats the way to go FOR SURE!! :1orglaugh

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Here you admit that you smoke "almost daily" then you say that you're not addicted because you don't get high ROFL! So why the fuck do you smoke then if you are so strong ya fucking big hero!!?!! Mate you are so fuckin addcited its a joke. I could see that in 5 minutes and I've never even met you. You need to take a good look at yourself before you go calling others weak.

H Y P O C R I T E & A D D I C T


You misapprehending dipshit. Where in any of my post did I say drugs weren't addictive? I didn't, I merely said that I think pot is a better choice when in comparison to other drugs. Did I not? I believe I did.

On to the second part, I also never said that I don't get high, as you so put it in your moronic attempt at looking like you know shit. I said that I wasn't ALWAYS high. Meaning that I don't smoke all day, every day. If I did, and depended on it to get me through the day, I would be an addict. I don't, hence I am not an addict.

An addict is a person that NEEDS their vice to make it through life. I'll use cigarette smokers as an example here, because those are the weakest group of individuals ever. A recent example: I was out the other day at a restaurant, of course it was a smoke free place, so I watched as the smokers came up to the door and noticed the signs. They quickly lit up, took a few drags and put the cigarette in the ashtray wasting almost the whole thing, just for that "quick fix". How patethic is that? To me, that's pathetic, and that's what you call an addict.


Is this easier for your pre-school intellect to understand, or should I talk baby talk to see if you can comprehend things any better?

BlueQuartz 01-31-2006 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
you're talking to this OsirisID guy like you fucking know him, wow you smoked pot for half your life??? who gives a fuck, i know tons and tons of people who have done the same and have completly different views then you.

just because you were some fuckup and decided to blame it on weed doesnt make it a bad drug.

you have already admitted your head is fucked up, and you are talking like you know everyones expierience.

drugs affect different people differently,

its the same with any kind of over the counter drugs or coffee for that matter.

you're not a scientist, now please hop back into that kangaroo pouch and guide him off the nearest cliff.


wrong again fuckwit - I have a science degree so guess what - that makes me a scientist and you a fuckin shit eater

drugs effect different people differntly - GEE NO SHIT MATE - show me where I said otherwise

oh a kangaroo comment - I never would have expected that - every idiot who knows nothin about Australia says something about a kangaroo

geee you dont give a fuck but here you are still replying - fuckin hypocrite and a moron are ya

BlueQuartz 01-31-2006 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OsirisID
You misapprehending dipshit. Where in any of my post did I say drugs weren't addictive? I didn't, I merely said that I think pot is a better choice when in comparison to other drugs. Did I not? I believe I did.

On to the second part, I also never said that I don't get high, as you so put it in your moronic attempt at looking like you know shit. I said that I wasn't ALWAYS high. Meaning that I don't smoke all day, every day. If I did, and depended on it to get me through the day, I would be an addict. I don't, hence I am not an addict.

An addict is a person that NEEDS their vice to make it through life. I'll use cigarette smokers as an example here, because those are the weakest group of individuals ever. A recent example: I was out the other day at a restaurant, of course it was a smoke free place, so I watched as the smokers came up to the door and noticed the signs. They quickly lit up, took a few drags and put the cigarette in the ashtray wasting almost the whole thing, just for that "quick fix". How patethic is that? To me, that's pathetic, and that's what you call an addict.


Is this easier for your pre-school intellect to understand, or should I talk baby talk to see if you can comprehend things any better?


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

phogirl69 01-31-2006 01:04 AM

I never tried drugs not even pot, EVER, I never smoked a joint in my life.

I prefer spending money on things that at least people that things can see like clothes or cars or anything tangible. I am just way too superficial to waste money on something to inject in my body that won't improve me in any way. I can understand injecting collagen in your lips, at least that may improve your appearance, but I don't understand injecting money on something no one else can see.

I prefer to spend money on things that people can see, or at least on something that will make me look better. At least buy shoes or clothes, wtf is drugs gonna do for me?? It sure isn't gonna make me look better, actually it might age me faster. I am petrified of anything that will make me age faster.

the only thing i might consider injecting in me when i get older is botox, at least i get something out of it.

I am addicted to other things like buying makeup and watching reality tv shows and reading tabloids, i never felt tempted or a desire for drugs.

BlueQuartz 01-31-2006 01:05 AM

you smoke everyday but you dont get high because youre not addicted and you are not weak

FUCKING FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER READ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

OsirisID 01-31-2006 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz
you smoke everyday but you dont get high because youre not addicted and you are not weak

FUCKING FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER READ :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


The funniest thing I have ever read is you saying you have a science degree, but yet you lack the intelligence enough to comprehend.


Oh, and it's okay that you can't reply to my post with some sort of intelligence, the world is full of dumbasses, you're just another one of the bunch.


Pot definitely fucked you up. :1orglaugh

bufferover 01-31-2006 09:45 AM

Nahh everything is bad.. when you use it too much.. just stay away from heroin, lsd and nicotine :)

kernelpanic 01-31-2006 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by phogirl69
I never tried drugs

Alcohol, nicotine, and caffeine are all drugs, and I'm sure you've used all three.

fuego 01-31-2006 10:13 AM

well, so much discussion about weed... i'm regular user and i got to tell it is kind of addictive drug and is not healthy and sure is not good for your work

but, shit, somethimes is just so good to get stoned

but really stoned, last time i was really using drugs and everything, not just some some joint, it was fucking ow... it goes like this: i drinked few bambus (popular drink, mixture of wine and coke), smoked few joints in company, then we sniffed three or four good lines (each of us) of speed, after speed, i can drink so much. we continue to drink (i do not smoke cigarettes)

my eyes was opened like huge windows and lighten like moonshine. after two hours of drinking and smoking weed, we went out, we ate two XTC each

after that, i have drinked all night till 10 am next morning and then i went home continue to smoke weed and drink some votka and beer, i have slept about hour and we repeated same thing that night again, just without XTC

i my life i have used so many drugs, from beer to LSD

what's the point? are drugs bad or good? for society sure bad, for person, bad, if you use it every day, but they are here, made for our own pleasure so is wrong to hecitate, use it from time to time

in 15 years i have not used anything regullary, but someone who want use, drugs or alcohol, every day, nobody, not society or state will prevent it, so i think that laws are useless, it's state of mind, who want's to use, will use it anyway

fl_prn_str 01-31-2006 10:16 AM

http://findpillsonline.com/images/xanax.jpg

If I dont have my bars...I will never fall asleep.......:disgust

J-$ 01-31-2006 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bjjb
This one look ALOT like the one I found in the woods deer hunting in October. Fucker want but 4 feet tall.

http://www.marijuana-seeds.net/Purple.jpg

4 feet tall isnt tall for a plant, but free weed's free weed. I'm guessing you live in Canada? Stay outta my crops! :upsidedow

JamesK2 01-31-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by phogirl69
I never tried drugs not even pot, EVER, I never smoked a joint in my life.

I prefer spending money on things that at least people that things can see like clothes or cars or anything tangible. I am just way too superficial to waste money on something to inject in my body that won't improve me in any way. I can understand injecting collagen in your lips, at least that may improve your appearance, but I don't understand injecting money on something no one else can see.

I prefer to spend money on things that people can see, or at least on something that will make me look better. At least buy shoes or clothes, wtf is drugs gonna do for me?? It sure isn't gonna make me look better, actually it might age me faster. I am petrified of anything that will make me age faster.

the only thing i might consider injecting in me when i get older is botox, at least i get something out of it.

I am addicted to other things like buying makeup and watching reality tv shows and reading tabloids, i never felt tempted or a desire for drugs.

Let me guess... you do drink alcohol? Remember, that's a drug too, and it does more damage than weed.

If not... props to ya, stay healthy :thumbsup


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