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Poppy 01-31-2006 04:58 PM

Joan is a sweetheart and always has a smile on her face. Looking forward to reading this ambush!

Joan 01-31-2006 05:04 PM

I know that just nudity is not CP. I have sent them links to images of YOUNG girls spreading their vagina wide open. Images of close ups of their vagina and asshole. And the girl was 12-14 at best.

I don't know why they would cop out, that's what I'm asking. Anytime I would ask visa e-mail it would never get a response.

If a totally nude prepubescent girl spreading her vagina open with both hands is not CP, please show me what is. That's all I'm asking here.


Aly, thank you for jumping in for me due to my being a little late.

If the ASACP CP hotline person receives a report with what you described, it should have been reported to law enforcement. However, if by the time ASACP reviewed this report (which is usually within a few hours), pictures could have been changed. We have seen that these 'child modeling' sites (and I use this term vert loosely) have been continuing to push the envelope.

If you still have the URL, please send it to directly to [email protected] and we will check it out again.

JFK 01-31-2006 05:06 PM

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Joan 01-31-2006 05:06 PM

As it relates to my brother's death, I think that it was stress as he was teaching in inner city school FT, going to graduate school FT, gutted and redid his house, but most of all, he was heartbroken and missed his partner.

JFK 01-31-2006 05:12 PM

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Joan 01-31-2006 05:14 PM

4. How come no one outside of the LA porn sceen seems to be involved in the asacp board?

Recently, this topic has been discussed at Advisory Council meetings. We were waiting until ASACP was a nonprofit which was approved in 2005. ASACP has a 501 c 4 status which is a Social Welfare Organization. This year ASACP will apply for 501 c 3 - Charity. Most non-adult companies require this second status to participate.

Joan 01-31-2006 05:24 PM

4. How come no one outside of the LA porn sceen seems to be involved in the asacp board?

Also, ASACP trys to inform mainstream companies of the industry's efforts. I attend the Digital Coast Roundtable (http://www.digitalcoast.org) and ITV Alliance events (http://itvalliance.org/) in order to interact with people who may be interested in suopprting ASACP. I have spoken with a representative of the Writer's Guild as their members are the ones who write the movies and TV scripts about the industry (and many times incorrectly)

DWB 01-31-2006 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joan

If the ASACP CP hotline person receives a report with what you described, it should have been reported to law enforcement. However, if by the time ASACP reviewed this report (which is usually within a few hours), pictures could have been changed. We have seen that these 'child modeling' sites (and I use this term vert loosely) have been continuing to push the envelope.

If you still have the URL, please send it to directly to [email protected] and we will check it out again.

That is a good answer. You know, I have never went back to look at it after I reported it. I already have this fear of getting raided and the police finding that stuff cached in my computer. The last thing I want to do is show some sort of history for looking at such a thing.

Thank you for responding.

Joan 01-31-2006 05:30 PM

5. How many busts and/or convictions can the ASACP directly credit to themselves.

ASACP only sends validated suspect CP site reports to law enforcement. We are not involved beyond is point unless we are contacted by law enforcement which has occurred a few times. However, at times we can determine when our informaton has been used. For example, in its January 17th article "Dangerous Mix: Internet Transforms Child Porn Into Lucrative Criminal Trade,hahaha8221; The Wall Street Journal reported on an international investigation into a company called Regpay, based in the former Soviet republic of Belarus. According to the article:

hahaha8220;The company is at the center of what U.S. law-enforcement officials call the largest Internet child-pornography investigation to date and the first to follow the international financial trail of child-porn sales. The probe has discovered the names of some 40,000 Americans who downloaded child porn and led to more than 1,400 arrests world-wide including about 330 in the U.S.hahaha8221;

Please note...

Joan 01-31-2006 05:31 PM

a story in AVNOnline on 1-16-04

EWARK, N.J. - A Belorus-based payment processor whose child porn site Adult Sites Against Child Pornography began reporting to authorities almost a year ago is the root of a case in which the FBI has arrested at least 44, with four of its own plus a Florida executive with a partnering company pleading guilty.

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CNN reported January 15 that federal officials made arrests in the U.S., France, Spain, and Belarus, in a case that stemmed from Minsk-based Regpay Co., Ltd, collecting fees for child porn sites that federal officials believe ran to the millions.

""When we followed the money, we ended up getting both the operators of this outfit... and meanwhile back here at home we were doing search warrants on people's computers who had subscribed via credit card to these child pornographic Websites," U.S. Attorney's Office spokesman Michael Drewniak told CNN.

The case began with a Website known as pedoworld, which ASACP began reporting to the FBI in 2000, catching on to Regpay, which owned pedoworld and was once known as Trustbill.com, and sending the FBI reports on regpay.com since February 2003, according to ASACP executive director Joan Irvine.

"In fact," she told AVN.com, "we alerted the FBI (in Los Angeles) to how pedoworld was using a Hotmail address to obtain customers and direct them to payment methods." ASACP's Tim Henning sent the FBI in Los Angeles a report late last May on regpay.com which included their American telephone number for customer service, the URL for its contact page, and the precise billing link, Irvine said.

"It feels good knowing that ASACP and the adult site industry have contributed to these arrests," she said.

Two-dozen people in New Jersey and about 20 more around the U.S. were arrested for downloading child porn in this case, CNN reported, including a doctor, a teacher, and a minister, while Regpay and a Fort Lauderdale-based company, Connections USA, were indicted in a money-laundering scheme that involved paid memberships to at least 50 child porn Websites.

Four Regpay leaders have been indicted, with three others having been arrested last summer, authorities said, while one executive with Connections USA has reportedly pleaded guilty over his involvement in the case.

Regpay ran at least four child porn sites from Minsk, including pedoworld, while carrying ads for other adult sites, Attorney General John Ashcroft told CNN, processing an estimated $3 million from subscription fees for Websites, many of which were child porn sites.

"Today's indictment strikes at the heart of the commercial trade of child pornography by attacking the commercial profits derived from such a deplorable venture," Ashcroft said, adding the Regpay-based ring was hit through combined efforts of the FBI, the Internal Revenue Service, immigrations and customs enforcement, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, and law enforcement in Belarus, France, and Spain.

Irvine said ASACP hahaha8211; which has added staff, technology, and upgraded reviewing processes in the past year hahaha8211; was never apprised of the progress of the investigation. "They never let us know until or unless they make a bust," she said. "This is an FBI, a law enforcement investigation. And, remember, we are not a law enforcement agency. But they now have proof that the adult site industry has been contributing information to the FBI relevant to legitimate child pornography investigations."

Ramos 01-31-2006 05:32 PM

Fitty!!!!!

Mack 01-31-2006 05:33 PM

Joan,

First off, thank you for coming here and doing this interview. I think it is a terrific way for many who don't know you to get a glimpse of WHO you are and what you are about. Bravo.

My Question(s): How many leads to cp are submitted by honest, hardworking legal adult webmasters? Is there a better way for us to submit sites of concern, and possibly have some documented numbers that can be submitted to and/or noticed in some way by our law makers to further support our claims as an industry that we are just as concerned and outraged by cp as they are?

jonesy 01-31-2006 05:39 PM

this looks like a hot one already

JFK 01-31-2006 05:47 PM

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Rand 01-31-2006 05:47 PM

Joan is a remarkable woman who has helped take ASACP to a whole new level. Granted, stepping into this industry from any other is not easy and she's had to endure some growing pains. However, most of what is believed about ASACP is simply misunderstood. This interview gives Joan a real opportunity not to "sell" ASACP, but to clear up a lot of industry misconceptions.

Looking forward to it.

NickB. 01-31-2006 05:49 PM

Really Looking forward reading this!

seeric 01-31-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
just like every other ambush. I hold back nothing and ask anything and everything :thumbsup

thats why i love em :winkwink:

Joan 01-31-2006 05:53 PM

I'm sorry, I just race out of a meeting to get back here to this Interview. I should have taken couple of minutes to chill out before starting. You're right I need to start with #1. Oh you all are so pushy ;

Joan 01-31-2006 05:55 PM

OK, the answer to #1:

1. What THE FUCK were you thinking initially backing .xxx?

Let's see if I can finally put this one to bed.. ASACP did NOT support .XXX. We had a meeting about their proposal to us and agreed that it was not in our mission to come out fighting on either one side or the other. We did however, say we'd support any efforts ICM made to protect children. At the time that really didn't seem like a strong show of support. Remember, at that time, ICM had not positioned .XXX as being about protecting children... it was about having a new adult business opportunity. In the current US political climate, ICM turned it into a child protection issue and we were dragged in. We weren't thrilled with that.

JFK 01-31-2006 05:58 PM

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JFK 01-31-2006 05:59 PM

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JFK 01-31-2006 06:00 PM

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Joan 01-31-2006 06:02 PM

I never knew that there were so many pictures of me... I'm going to watch what wear next time. Hold on, this address #7 -
8. Steve wants to know if you are you really a man wearing an ugly wig and if you think he's cute.

So, even I have a few bad hair days and perhaps clothes days, but at least I am usually color coordinate... most of the time!!

OK, #2 on its way.... are you waiting with bated breath???

Joan 01-31-2006 06:21 PM

"My Question(s): How many leads to cp are submitted by honest, hardworking legal adult webmasters? Is there a better way for us to submit sites of concern, and possibly have some documented numbers that can be submitted to and/or noticed in some way by our law makers to further support our claims as an industry that we are just as concerned and outraged by cp as they are?"

I can easily, but not quickly answer this. ASACP receives between 5,000 - 6,000 leads per month. Of these, about 1/2 are duplicates or have been report before. We investigate all new leads but only determine that approx 200 are new unique sites with CP...

Joan 01-31-2006 06:23 PM

It is amazing how many people try to report legal adult sites just because they are against adult entertainment. Of course, we inform this people that such sites are legal.

Major (Tom) 01-31-2006 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joan
I will not address the first two questions as these questions have been addressed so many times and in so much detail. All one has to do is do a search on GFY


As they say... Play it again sammy!

Duke

Joan 01-31-2006 06:37 PM

Let me interrupt the current topic....to answer #2


2. Does the asacp have a hardon for lightspeed? Why wouldn't you allow a legal company like lightspeed join yet allow other similar ones with similar and more sever content to join? Discuss in detail.

I do NOT have a hard-on for lightspeed... I am a woman after all ;-) They are welcome and invited to join ASACP.

Steve was understandably upset when we initially turned down his sponsorship offer. This was due to a concern that an unusually high number of sites with unacceptable terms at the time linked to his program in order to make money off of him, unbeknownst to him.

To his credit, he responded by taking productive steps in preventing that from happening. Very well done, Steve!

Since the implementation of new technology and procedures to automatically review applications, ASACP can now accept membership applications from sites that previously we could not monitor. Heck, it took us two years before we could accept Adult Dating sites as members; people weren't happy about it, but they understood the need to protect the credibility of ASACP, its members and the industry. If we lose that, we lose the ability to effectively fight CP, so I've personally had to stand strong on some very unpopular decisions in order to do what we do so well.

I respect Steve's fighting spirit and the proactive efforts he's made by himself. He's more than welcome to join ASACP, we'd be delighted to have him.

tony286 01-31-2006 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joan
OK, the answer to #1:

1. What THE FUCK were you thinking initially backing .xxx?

Let's see if I can finally put this one to bed.. ASACP did NOT support .XXX. We had a meeting about their proposal to us and agreed that it was not in our mission to come out fighting on either one side or the other. We did however, say we'd support any efforts ICM made to protect children. At the time that really didn't seem like a strong show of support. Remember, at that time, ICM had not positioned .XXX as being about protecting children... it was about having a new adult business opportunity. In the current US political climate, ICM turned it into a child protection issue and we were dragged in. We weren't thrilled with that.

Your right ASACP didnt support it you did in a letter to Icann ,that you signed with your title. So to the untrained reader it would look like ASACP supported it.

Joan 01-31-2006 07:00 PM

and in retrospect,I am sorry that's the way it looked. It hasn't been fun and it's taken too much time away from the valuable (sp) work we do!!!

iamkathi 01-31-2006 07:01 PM

I have great for Joan the 'in the spotlight' head honcho for ASACP.

But more, I love Joan... the person. She has a terrific sense of humor and she is a class act always.:clown

We are both just two former hippy chicks.

smooches sweetie

Big Red Machine 01-31-2006 07:06 PM

Good read this is an interesting one

Joan 01-31-2006 07:07 PM

Kathi, you are so great! In addition to always volunteering at the ASACP booth at Internext, you are genuinely a nice person and I enjoyed spending quality time with you at Internext .... a rare opportunity for me.

tony286 01-31-2006 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joan
and in retrospect,I am sorry that's the way it looked. It hasn't been fun and it's taken too much time away from the valuable (sp) work we do!!!

I can accept that :) Thank you

Joan 01-31-2006 08:05 PM

9. "Who voted the acacp to speak for the industry?"

We do not vote for the industry - only for our Members and Sponsors!

OY 01-31-2006 08:07 PM

Joan - love you.

Mansion Productions is proud to be, for the second year in a row, corporate sponsors of ASACP. We are with you to stay for sure.

Without ASACP I truly believe we would see a lot more CP also within our industry, so whatever you do Joan, never quit.

I urge ALL companies on GFY to join ASACP in the fight against child pornography!

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Kimmykim 01-31-2006 08:21 PM

I think there are alot of times that the perception of ASACP is not entirely aligned with the reality of ASACP in this industry.

I've had many conversations with Joan about her personal position on things, as well as talked to her and others involved with the organization about its stance in regards to issues. Most issues, especially those that don't involve ASACP directly, don't warrant an official position, which is probably for the best, but often leads to people drawing their own conclusions, and sometimes those conclusions are wrong.

Joan, as a person and good friend of mine, is terrific -- she's funny, smart, and has so many things she can talk about when you sit down with her, time gets away from you!

Joan 01-31-2006 08:24 PM

6. Talk about quitting smoking.

7. What exactly do you have a PHD in? discuss in detail.

OK, you want to know about me. Then, I need to go back...to what I do for individuals and my personal passion for life -- helping people. I won't admit to how ong this has been my calling ( I know this may be heavy, but it's part of who I am).

My undergraduate degree is a BA-Psychology from U of Kansas. But, I found I was good at sales and technology and let's be real I could pay my bills being in business rather than being a therapist. At L'oreal, I was the first woman to be honored with the "Salesman (for all the women in the industry and who are members of WIA, please note this terminology). At ADP (Auitomatic Data Processing where Alan Greenspan was a consultant, yes tha Alan Greenspan!!), I was named "Rookie of the Year"...

JFK 01-31-2006 08:43 PM

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JFK 01-31-2006 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joan
I never knew that there were so many pictures of me... I'm going to watch what wear next time. Hold on, this address #7 -
8. Steve wants to know if you are you really a man wearing an ugly wig and if you think he's cute.

So, even I have a few bad hair days and perhaps clothes days, but at least I am usually color coordinate... most of the time!!

OK, #2 on its way.... are you waiting with bated breath???

Joan, just wear a smile:winkwink:
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Joan 01-31-2006 08:58 PM

Back to: Talk about quitting smoking.

7. What exactly do you have a PHD in? discuss in detail.

But first I need say how honored I am to be in pictiures with Sonny... she is a beautiful woman who is a great job about being a professional woman!


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