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  • Dugmor
    The Traffic Cowboy
    • Jan 2002
    • 7687

    #1

    Model wants OUT of the Business ! (Picture)



    Kimm (11:36 AM) :
    Hey Dugmor
    Dugmor! (11:36 AM) :
    Hi
    Kimm (11:36 AM) :
    I was wondering if you had a minute to chat?
    Kimm (11:36 AM) :
    You know me
    Kimm (11:36 AM) :
    Mika
    Kimm (11:37 AM) :
    How are you?
    Dugmor! (11:37 AM) :
    Who is this ?
    Kimm (11:37 AM) :
    Mika
    Kimm (11:37 AM) :
    Years ago though
    Dugmor! (11:37 AM) :
    From where ?
    Dugmor! (11:38 AM) :
    Mika Maze ?
    Kimm (11:38 AM) :
    Yeah
    Kimm (11:38 AM) :
    Long time ago...
    Kimm (11:38 AM) :
    Do u have a minute or you have 35 dif convos going at the same time?
    Dugmor! (11:39 AM) :
    yes
    Kimm (11:39 AM) :
    My life is completely different now .... I"m a good girl
    Kimm (11:40 AM) :
    I left Rick a while back too
    Dugmor! (11:40 AM) :
    Really ? Why ?
    Kimm (11:40 AM) :
    Cuz he was an asshole
    Kimm (11:40 AM) :
    lonn story... very long
    Dugmor! (11:40 AM) :
    I thought you had a cam studio set up
    Kimm (11:40 AM) :
    no, that was him trying to look big
    Kimm (11:41 AM) :
    he had what? 2 girls for like 2 months?
    Dugmor! (11:41 AM) :
    Well it is a hard business !
    Kimm (11:41 AM) :
    Closed down with everything in it
    Kimm (11:42 AM) :
    Yeah LOL
    Kimm (11:42 AM) :
    Full up and it gets fuller every year
    Kimm (11:42 AM) :
    I cant beleive youre still growing!
    Kimm (11:42 AM) :
    I took a look around at a lot of your stuff...
    Kimm (11:42 AM) :
    You still enjoying it or...?
    Dugmor! (11:42 AM) :
    Always... it never stops... I am dedicated to my art !
    Dugmor! (11:42 AM) :
    I love it !
    Kimm (11:43 AM) :
    I'd like to talk to you human to human for a sec...

    Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
    To be honest... I cannot remove your content

    Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
    I will explain
    Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
    I have affiliates that have dedicated a lot of time and work setting up the traffic to my sites.

    Kimm (11:44 AM) :
    I know
    Dugmor! (11:44 AM) :
    To remove any content... would damage mine and their business.

    Kimm (11:44 AM) :
    even if its been there for 5 years?

    Kimm (11:45 AM) :
    and has never changed?
    Kimm (11:45 AM) :
    Heres my thing....
    Dugmor! (11:46 AM) :
    Even more so... people worked very hard for 5 years... removing the content would kill everything they worked on ... for 5 years..... 5 years of hard work down the drain...

    Kimm (11:46 AM) :
    Rick was insulted that I would leave him....
    Dugmor! (11:46 AM) :
    I am not even going to go into my costs.... I am more worried about all my affilates.
    Dugmor! (11:47 AM) :
    I am not going tell any affiliates to remove any content.

    Dugmor! (11:48 AM) :
    I have to think of the business first... ... I already knew what you where going to ask...before you asked !

    Kimm (11:49 AM) :
    I know you did
    Kimm (11:49 AM) :
    You must live this quite often
    Dugmor! (11:49 AM) :
    Not really
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  • BoyAlley
    So Fucking Gay
    • Nov 2004
    • 19714

    #2
    YAY for model drama!

    We all have it, part of doing biness as you know!

    Last edited by BoyAlley; 02-01-2006, 11:23 PM.

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    • xenigo
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2001
      • 8067

      #3
      Good response to that girl. Women falsely assume this business must be all fun and games, and getting paid for being content is something that can easily be undone.

      I've had models request the same thing. I told them that pretty much no amount of money would make it worth while to the clients I have sold the content to.

      Ridiculous. I'd like to understand the way their minds work.

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      • eroswebmaster
        March 1st, 2003
        • Jul 2001
        • 20295

        #4
        Me, personally I would consider it..especially if the site has been around for 5 years and I've made my investment back.

        However, these people need to really consider what they are doing when they decide to work in front of the camera knowing that this can and will come back to haunt you later on in life.

        You can pull content all day long, but we all know the content is out there and will continue to live on forever.
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        • RevSand
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          • Oct 2003
          • 8151

          #5
          great replies...


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          • Quick Buck
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            • Feb 2006
            • 1026

            #6
            congratulations. you must be proud.
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            • Doctor Dre
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jan 2001
              • 51692

              #7
              Great standing up behind affiliates. I'm not in your shoes, but this was the best decision you could make.
              Originally posted by rayadp05
              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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              • dbavaria
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2005
                • 404

                #8
                I can't help feeling sorry for the models...I guess its business but still kind of sad. We all know that they came in for their first shoots everyone was quick to get them to sign so they wouldn't change their minds.

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                • Spider Ninja
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2051

                  #9
                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                  Me, personally I would consider it..especially if the site has been around for 5 years and I've made my investment back.
                  I'm with eroswebmaster on this one

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                  • Nickless
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1955

                    #10
                    spoke like a true pro, almost too perfect to be true ;)

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                    • Spider Ninja
                      Registered User
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2051

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nickless
                      spoke like a true pro, almost too perfect to be true ;)
                      thread title "model drama picture" and picture = dick in her mouth...a little hostility?

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                      • jscott
                        jscizzle
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 25412

                        #12
                        i wish ALL sponsors and paysite owners had balls to respond like that
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                        • Jay_StandAhead
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3103

                          #13
                          Time to put her first scene on thehun again! She was in the first batch of content I bought back in 01, she made me tons!

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                          • Dugmor
                            The Traffic Cowboy
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 7687

                            #14
                            This is not like the only scene she has ever done !

                            She has done a lot of scenes.... Mika Mayze

                            My guess is since the Web Dreams documentary came out ... my sites have become a lot more popular !
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                            • The Duck
                              Adult Content Provider
                              • May 2005
                              • 18243

                              #15
                              it must suck big balls when you really realise pics of you sucking a cock is out there for everyone to see..
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                              • JFK
                                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 67373

                                #16
                                does she work for a Montreal Livecam company now??

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                                • SomeCreep
                                  :glugglug
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 26118

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Dugmor
                                  Dugmor! (11:46 AM) :
                                  I am not even going to go into my costs.... I am more worried about all my affilates.
                                  Dugmor! (11:47 AM) :
                                  I am not going tell any affiliates to remove any content.

                                  Dugmor! (11:48 AM) :
                                  I have to think of the business first... ... I already knew what you where going to ask...before you asked !

                                  Kimm (11:49 AM) :
                                  I know you did
                                  Right on. Business is business.

                                  Besides, she looks better with cock in her mouth anyways.

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                                  • flashfire
                                    ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 13098

                                    #18
                                    if you wanna get outta the business dont get in

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                                    • Doctor Dre
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by flashfire
                                      if you wanna get outta the business dont get in
                                      Actually, getting out is not the problem, except for models.

                                      They should think twice about doing something like this
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                      • reynold
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 51271

                                        #20
                                        Too bad for the model. Such is life.. Nothing is permanent. As the cliche goes, change is the only constant thing in life.

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                                        • Vitasoy
                                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 58202

                                          #21
                                          Well said on your part.


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                                          • darnit
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 2439

                                            #22
                                            It IS the harsh reality of the business, however you must at least feel some compassion for these women. The critics of our industry always say that this business is at its nature exploitive - however it is just that "a business" AND "exploitive".

                                            Im not posting an opinion one way or the other on your decision, in fact i tend to agree with you. However anyone with a conscious must at least weigh their decisions with a great deal of insight and personal reflection.

                                            This to seems like a program owner posting pictures and an icq conversation showcasing a models personal transgressions, private regrets, and an impassioned plea via (what she thought was private) communications on a public webmaster board to curry favor with potential affiliates and in the process humiliate her even futher.

                                            That imho is just in poor taste.

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                                            • Dugmor
                                              The Traffic Cowboy
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 7687

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by darnit

                                              This to seems like a program owner posting pictures and an icq conversation showcasing a models personal transgressions, private regrets, and an impassioned plea via (what she thought was private) communications on a public webmaster board to curry favor with potential affiliates and in the process humiliate her even futher.

                                              That imho is just in poor taste.
                                              I do not just post pictures and conversations of girls that want to get OUT of the business.... I also post pictures and email/ ICQ conversations of girls that want to get INthe business !

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                                              Another Girls wants to get Gangbanged ! ( Pictures )
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                                              • sonofsam
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 18642

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dugmor
                                                I do not just post pictures and conversations of girls that want to get OUT of the business.... I also post pictures and email/ ICQ conversations of girls that want to get INthe business !

                                                This girl wants to get Gang Banged ( Pic )

                                                Another Girls wants to get Gangbanged ! ( Pictures )
                                                you forgot one

                                                xlogger wants to get gangbanged
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                                                • darnit
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 2439

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Dugmor
                                                  I do not just post pictures and conversations of girls that want to get OUT of the business.... I also post pictures and email/ ICQ conversations of girls that want to get INthe business !
                                                  Dugmor, my post wasn't meant to be a slam - as i stated i tend to agree with you and btw I actively promote your program. However I do feel this particual post was in poor taste. Just my personal no harm - no foul.

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                                                  • kmanrox
                                                    aka K-Man
                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                    • 29295

                                                    #26
                                                    i love it!!

                                                    btw, dugmore, please update your photo in yoru sig, that's an OLD one you age-cheating bastard!
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                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 51692

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by darnit
                                                      Dugmor, my post wasn't meant to be a slam - as i stated i tend to agree with you and btw I actively promote your program. However I do feel this particual post was in poor taste. Just my personal no harm - no foul.
                                                      I don't think his intentions were harmfull, just trying to get some good publicity. I personally think that is good publicity.
                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                      • Dugmor
                                                        The Traffic Cowboy
                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 7687

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Jay[neX]
                                                        Time to put her first scene on thehun again! She was in the first batch of content I bought back in 01, she made me tons!
                                                        Exactly.... back in 2001 she wanted all the attention should could get ! She was shooting for everyone. She wanted to be a big porn star !
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                                                        • flashfire
                                                          ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 13098

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                          Actually, getting out is not the problem, except for models.

                                                          They should think twice about doing something like this
                                                          thats what I was talking about...the business of being an adult model

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                                                          • Dugmor
                                                            The Traffic Cowboy
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 7687

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by darnit
                                                            Dugmor, my post wasn't meant to be a slam - as i stated i tend to agree with you and btw I actively promote your program. However I do feel this particual post was in poor taste. Just my personal no harm - no foul.
                                                            I know... I just wanted to say that I also make posts of girls that want to get in the business also !
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                                                            • BillyHoe
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 2214

                                                              #31
                                                              Well played Dugmour, Mika worked with us too, and cost us alot of money. She pulled a midnight move on us, with her site.

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                                                              • Spunky
                                                                I need a beer
                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                • 133986

                                                                #32
                                                                Indeed..cut the ties and move on

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                                                                • Stallion
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 6632

                                                                  #33
                                                                  gotta love model drama..
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                                                                  • Doctor Dre
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 51692

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by BillyHoe
                                                                    Well played Dugmour, Mika worked with us too, and cost us alot of money. She pulled a midnight move on us, with her site.
                                                                    Outch. I think i'd want to kill the girl
                                                                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                    • BuggyG
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 4179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dugmor
                                                                      Exactly.... back in 2001 she wanted all the attention should could get ! She was shooting for everyone. She wanted to be a big porn star !

                                                                      DAMN!!
                                                                      I remember Mika
                                                                      shit.. brings back memories of her

                                                                      sux though.. she would only do her bf.. did lots of stuff
                                                                      but only other girls
                                                                      anytign with a guy.. was her bf

                                                                      lost lots of contracts like that

                                                                      but.. sti;ll.. was good times with her

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                                                                      • czarina
                                                                        Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 10752

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Actually if she is not the main money maker for the site, and she is not widely promoted, then I would remove her. She is not that great looking anyway.

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                                                                        • brand0n
                                                                          been very busy
                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 26983

                                                                          #37
                                                                          My life is completely different now .... I"m a good girl
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                                                                          • DWB
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 31779

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Porn Is Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                            • LadyMischief
                                                                              Orgasms N Such!
                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 18135

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by czarina
                                                                              Actually if she is not the main money maker for the site, and she is not widely promoted, then I would remove her. She is not that great looking anyway.

                                                                              As if him removing her content is going to make any difference at all.. if it's been up for 5 years, there's sure to have been 5000 different people who took her pics, posted them in newsgroups, etc. That's the thing, these girls think it's as simple as asking the person who shot it to remove it, but that's hardly going to make a dint in the anthill, so to speak.

                                                                              Good move, Dugmor. You remove that content and next thing you know you have 20 other "good girls" looking for favors and asking you to remove their content. If girls don't want to be seen, they shouldn't do it in the first place. I know it might seem like the hardline, but business is business.

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                                                                              • MikeVega
                                                                                **Porntrepreneur**
                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                • 12788

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I had that same Convo with juicy a few weeks ago ... I told him i can't take down any of the twink content we shot of him ...


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                                                                                • Zarathustra
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                  • 1094

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  haha...dugmor with the great intuition, knew everything before hand.

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                                                                                  • Phil
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 7659

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    well, she tried... now how many other sites do have her content and how much of it been stolen and on Kazaa right now? 5 years? sheeez...as if taking if off would make a difference.
                                                                                    Ask Phil

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                                                                                    • Dugmor
                                                                                      The Traffic Cowboy
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 7687

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Zarathustra
                                                                                      haha...dugmor with the great intuition, knew everything before hand.

                                                                                      When a girl after 5 years ..... never once calling me or every talking on a personal level contact me .... there is only one thing I know she will want.

                                                                                      Her and her boyfriend would come in.... shoot the scene, sign the releases .... leave with the money and never call agian until they needed money agian.

                                                                                      Money they used to start there own live cam studio. So they knew what they where doing. They bought their own computers with the money and hired girls. It didnt work.... I guess they didnt understand that it takes a lot more than a hot girl in front of the camera to make a site work !

                                                                                      It takes a lot of hard work on the part of an army of affiliates !

                                                                                      Affiliates are promised a sale and recurring for life ...a link can be buried for years.... but it still has a chance to make a sale !

                                                                                      Maybe someday people will think content from 2001 is classic or vintage... a whole new niche ! Future customers for ever and ever !
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                                                                                      • PimpDaddyPants
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                                                                                        • Aug 2005
                                                                                        • 1581

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        getting out the popcorn

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                                                                                        • Juilan
                                                                                          Sultan of Swing
                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 15141

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          dude that was handled very well.
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                                                                                          • Pete-KT
                                                                                            Workin With The Devil
                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                            • 51532

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Dugmor hit me up when you have a chance need to speak to u

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                                                                                            • CC
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                              • 1690

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              It's a bad situation all around. I feel for her, but unfortunately, it's just too late for a change of heart.

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                                                                                              • PostWhore
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                • 4720

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                you are an asshole
                                                                                                Ask me how to monetize with adult traffic!

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                                                                                                • Sebastian Sands
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                                  • 5223

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  You did handle that one perfect. I had it happen. No way am I taking anything down. Especially the excuses they can come up with. "I have a BF now and he doesn't like it" Yeah, and?

                                                                                                  Hey did you ever end up shooting kayden from PHX that you had in the other post you were refering to above?

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                                                                                                  • Stacey_JoinRightNow
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                                    • 6269

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dugmor
                                                                                                    Dugmor! (11:46 AM) :
                                                                                                    Even more so... people worked very hard for 5 years... removing the content would kill everything they worked on ... for 5 years..... 5 years of hard work down the drain...

                                                                                                    Kimm (11:46 AM) :
                                                                                                    Rick was insulted that I would leave him....
                                                                                                    Dugmor! (11:46 AM) :
                                                                                                    I am not even going to go into my costs.... I am more worried about all my affilates.
                                                                                                    Dugmor! (11:47 AM) :
                                                                                                    I am not going tell any affiliates to remove any content.
                                                                                                    Nicely stated Dug, I know you mean business, I guess its really too late for her and also its not easy to remove everything you had put up...

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