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chadglni 03-06-2006 12:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarmusch
T minus until someone says you're an email spammer and that's the only reason why they closed your account.
Their TOS is pretty hardcore and it could be for 1000 reasons besides emails.

Tempest 03-06-2006 01:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teksonline
oh actually now that i remember, i never did get my $50 signup bonus....
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh You too?? Happened to me as well and one other person I know.

ClickCash isn't the only program that will find a reason to "term" you if you bitch to them. After awhile you learn to keep your mouth shut or bring it to the boards.

minimouse 03-06-2006 02:13 AM
Clickcash is my biggest earner, been like that for 7 years.
and as I see it now, it will stay like that.

2HousePlague 03-06-2006 02:15 AM
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teksonline 03-06-2006 02:16 AM
"I couldn't care less whether someone promotes iFriends or who the heck ever. But webmasters who post BS attempting to hurt CC, if they have any impact at all, are more likely to hurt other webmasters by persuading them to promote someone they might not earn as well from. It's not even impossible that's the reason for some of the negative posts."

Can I have your check?



You calling me a scammer?
Does the site MEGAPUSSY.COM ring a bell to you?

FUCK OFF DOUCHEBAG, check the fucking whois date of that site
and then check the archive.org's

Anyone who thinks this is a scam, has been brainwashed by this board.
I feel so sorry for you fucking twats

flashfire 03-06-2006 02:18 AM
worst support hands down...

teksonline 03-06-2006 02:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by minimouse
Clickcash is my biggest earner, been like that for 7 years.
and as I see it now, it will stay like that.
yeah well 1 hit sites will have that problem

teksonline 03-06-2006 12:44 PM
yup thats right ole

teksonline 03-06-2006 12:48 PM
Today's CLICK CASH LIE

Our records show that the account was cancelled on-line using your login and password. We do not show that we closed your account. As it was closed on line, a final check for any pending commissions has been issued for your account and will be paid out according to our posted payout schedule.

nexcom28 03-06-2006 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thead
Oh, so i'm not the only one here. Never been able to get an answer by email or ICQ with ClickCash.
The only address I ever use is support at clickcash and I have always recieved replies, usually within a few hours.

sickkittens 03-06-2006 01:57 PM
50 questions for Will

nofx 03-06-2006 03:08 PM
bumpadfasfdasdfasfd

will76 03-06-2006 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teksonline
So like I been promoting these bastards for what 7 years now..

I look at my credit card info online the other day and see this $29.99
charge from them.. I'm like wtf??? I bought that stupid $6.95/m crap just so
once in every 9 years I can login and see what is available to promote
But wtf is this shit? So I email them right, ugh yeah you frauded me,
refund that shit..

So this morning I read my email, says they took care of it.

I go to log in my stats, account invalid

They TOS'd me, steal the weekly earnings (not sure how much but i usually have about 20 downline sales, and 4-10 regulars per week) and shut me down completely

WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLE SCAM RAPERS

ANYONE WHO PROMOTES THESE COCK SUCKERS IS A FOOL!

AND WATCH YOUR FUCKING MONTHLIES!


OH YEAH, CHECK YOUR FUCKING INCOME TAX 10-99's THEY LOVE TO RAPE YOU ON THAT ADDING 10-20k ON IT DID THAT TO ME LAST YEAR!!!

FUCK YOU CLICK CASH!:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY
I guess i am a fool then.

Have you spoke to anyone yet? I will pass the information along and have them look into this. If you cancel your ifriends membership you will not lose your clickcash account. The two are not related, Unless if you were using our creditcard to get ifriends signups, then by charging it back, you may have been creating a fraud risk for your clickcash account. Where is the 29$ from, was it a Fan Club membership, time spent with a chathost??? feels like information is being left out of this one.

will76 03-06-2006 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teksonline
oh actually now that i remember, i never did get my $50 signup bonus....
and that email was never responded too!
you said you were promoting them for 7 years, you just remembered not getting a $50 signup bonus from them 7 years ago. Where they offering a signup bonus that long ago. :warning

will76 03-06-2006 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumbking
how long does it take for checks to come?

I have been waiting for the sales from the first week of Jan.06.
you most likely did not read the TOS when you signed up and saw that you are suppose to send in a webmaster agreement form. contact me if you need the link.

HizAzPhun 03-06-2006 05:08 PM
Everytime you test an ifriends link you set a PERMANANT COOKIE on your computer, you probably signed up under you own account and didn't even know it.

teksonline 03-06-2006 08:17 PM
has nothig to do with it, when i said refund the mysterious 29.99 charge on my account, they closed my Click Cash account via ToS violation, and email states they did NOT close my account, that I logged in and closed it.. Which is BS

will76 03-06-2006 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teksonline
never had the problem, of course i send quality traffic for many years...

my signups get less, and my webmaster referrals have all dropped from
4.00 to .04 though, that has always rung a bell

lets see you send quality signups so they wanted to terminate you because you were making them too much money, that makes a lot of sense. How did they ever make it 10 years in business with that kind of strategy? :upsidedow

FYI.... when you refer someone, you make 10% of what they make. So if they make $40, you make $4.

If that same person refers someone else and they make 1 signup, then he makes $4.00 and you make 10% of what they make so you make .40 .

Do you understand, you are accusing them of frauding your downline sales and you can't even read how their affiliate program works, wonder if your other problem with them was something you didn't do right or you jumped the gun instead of finding out first what really happened.

will76 03-06-2006 10:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Temp1
It is pretty obvious that anyone defending clickcash has his own agenda. It's a joke when I read read sorry posts defending the business practices of clickcash, not the least of which is their obvious, blatant shaving. The most insulting was when someone was trying to imply that 'shaving doesn't really matter, it's the money you make', a thinly veiled clickcash shill. This latest gripe, as disgusting as it, doesn't surprise me coming from clickcash.

yada yada yada

i got one word for you, you r eady...

baaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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if your post had an ounce of intelligence to it I would actually reply back with something thoughtfull. Like the hidden agenda of all the people who support clickcash that don't have it in their sig, or make any money from their endorsement, what is their hidden agenda, create more competition. but I don't want to "insult" you with my post, so you can just look at my sheep pic and feel good about yourself, you got it all figured out.

http://asuaf.org/~thatoneguy/cookie.jpg

will76 03-06-2006 10:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCat
They pay out weekly & the checks come very quickly. That's about the only thing I can say to vouch for them. They haven't updated their affiliate program or marketing materials in years. From a surfer standpoint, it's even more confusing.
not sure what you are trying to say here, but if their affiliate area is confusing for a surfer, i don't think they care, surfers aren't going to be making money using clickcash? or did you mean somethign else there ?

and you saying the checks come very quickly, you must be a shill, what is your hidden agenda :1orglaugh

will76 03-06-2006 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevsh
This is not to disagree with your post but to show my personal evaluation of PPS vs. revshare.

Seeing as how webcam sites can have a customer lifetime value of $700 or more, then even at a bare minimum 10% revshare model you would make an avg. of $70 per sign-up.

Considering the sliding scales most use (both PPS and revshare) then, say, 35% - the max revshare for this example - would bring you $245 over the lifetime of the customer. There is no PPS cam program that I know of that will pay more than $100 per-sign up ... and if you get a great deal or are extra special, even $200 PPS would net you less in the long run.

So while you get more up-front, like you suggest, in the end there is no comparison with a good, converting cam program - and a high payout % obviously helps!

Another advantage for revshare is that even if the huge majority of your traffic comes from one site, and something catastrophic happens to it, you can still be earning money for months (even years) while with PPS, essentially, once you stop sending traffic your income will vanish almost entirely, and much quicker.

you are nuts. for so many reasons from your post, but if you or anyone else wants me to point out where you are wrong I will... but i am not going to waste my breath if no one wants to listen anway, so please ask if you want to know where you are wrong.

High Quality 03-06-2006 10:50 PM
I remember a few years back ARS fucked up their 1099's. That was some serious shit in a BIG way.

will76 03-06-2006 10:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayeff
You should be a lot more concerned about the agenda of those knocking ClickCash...

I have been in this business since April '96. When I do recommend a sponsor, I rarely include a referral code. I haven't the slightest interest in being whatever passes for "cool" on this board. Etc. Etc. Good luck at finding even the sniff of any agenda.

I began promoting ClickCash a few weeks after they started. Just once in all those years they had a problem with their bank: I called and they replaced 2 checks, delivering them by Fedex. That is the only issue I have ever had with them and not by any stretch of the imagination am I an important affiliate.

As to sales, from 1997-2000 I made a lot more money promoting revshare cam services. As the market attracted more sponsors and affiliates, the "whales" became fewer and further between: ClickCash came into their own and although I don't see the money I once did (lots of factors there, most due to my own circumstances), CC are still the most consistent webcam earner for me.

Anyone who gets taken in by all the negative posts should reflect that any program paying $40-$80 per signup is going to attract scammers. It's also tough for all those who don't bother to read TOS that CC enforce their's (reminds me of a board owner we all know who used to take a lot of flack for doing the same thing with his program and for a long time was reluctant to admit mistakes were sometimes made). It is highly unlikely CC never make a mistake and they can be criticised for the unrelenting way they handle this aspect of their business. But the way most complaining posts are written make it pretty obvious the writers are just p*ssed at getting caught.

Granted, CC provide next to nothing in the way of useful promo material (at least not from a single convenient area), but how many people using those big iframes make enough money to justify that much real estate? You have to find your own way to make the most from cams, no matter who you promote.

I couldn't care less whether someone promotes iFriends or who the heck ever. But webmasters who post BS attempting to hurt CC, if they have any impact at all, are more likely to hurt other webmasters by persuading them to promote someone they might not earn as well from. It's not even impossible that's the reason for some of the negative posts.
great post, i couldn't agree with you more. But my opinion means nothing because i have an 'agenda".

Oh look this is post #4 or 5 of people with no clickcash link in their sig who is backing them up and who have used them for years with no problems. What do we know?

will76 03-06-2006 10:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexcom28
The only address I ever use is support at clickcash and I have always recieved replies, usually within a few hours.

the reason a lot of people likely don't hear back from them is because it says in the TOS, if you ask a question that is on the FAQ's page, then we will not reply to you. How many of you people actually read? I bet 9 out of 10 of the times they don't get back to you, your questions could be answered on their site. I don't blame them for doing this, you have 1000' of people emailing asking questions like, when do i get my check, do you pay epassporte, etc... i know i got a ton of those just from people who signed up under me. How hard is it to read. I got tired of answering the same questions over and over too.... read the tos, read the faq, then contact them.

Young 03-06-2006 10:58 PM
I see the spin has started. At least you waited a day or two for the thread to calm down a little and for the flaming to subside. They should pay you well.

will76 03-06-2006 11:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teksonline
has nothig to do with it, when i said refund the mysterious 29.99 charge on my account, they closed my Click Cash account via ToS violation, and email states they did NOT close my account, that I logged in and closed it.. Which is BS
How did they even know you had a clickcash account? why would they even think this or ask you this. it makes no sense. You think every person who calls up about a ifriends charge is asked, "do you have a clickcash account", come on it makes no sense. If they connected the 2 together it was because you did something to connect it for them, like use your personal credit card for your affiliate account, how else would they know, explain that to me !!!!

will76 03-06-2006 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Young
I see the spin has started. At least you waited a day or two for the thread to calm down a little and for the flaming to subside. They should pay you well.

spin.... ? come on you spoke up. please explain to me where i am spinning this. Anyone can make a jackass 2cent comment, lets see you back it up with some thought. Please explain how what i am saying is not logical, but just spin.

Young 03-06-2006 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76
spin.... ? come on you spoke up. please explain to me where i am spinning this. Anyone can make a jackass 2cent comment, lets see you back it up with some thought. Please explain how what i am saying is not logical, but just spin.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

How much more evidence, how many more threads do people need to read in order to know that they need to do their homework before signing up for this program. And you know what homework turns up??? Lets just say it's not good. And hardly any other programs have this problem that CC has...

I guess it's just a couple of people with vendettas, or better yet its one big huge GRAND CONSPIRACY against CC!!!!!

Please do not tell me what you are doing is not spin on their behalf....please.

You're presenting a favorable relationship with CC here on GFY...when in fact the majority of the relationships (so it seems) has been negative. At least from those who choose to speak up. You pop up in countless CC threads putting favorable spins on their actions.

Was that ok? Did I do ok? :1orglaugh

chadglni 03-06-2006 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Young
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

How much more evidence, how many more threads do people need to read in order to know that they need to do their homework before signing up for this program. And you know what homework turns up??? Lets just say it's not good. And hardly any other programs have this problem that CC has...

I guess it's just a couple of people with vendettas, or better yet its one big huge GRAND CONSPIRACY against CC!!!!!

Please do not tell me what you are doing is not spin on their behalf....please.

You're presenting a favorable relationship with CC here on GFY...when in fact the majority of the relationships (so it seems) has been negative. At least from those who choose to speak up. You pop up in countless CC threads putting favorable spins on their actions.

Was that ok? Did I do ok? :1orglaugh
The average startup program on GFY has a few hundred affiliates. Clickcash has 10's of thousands counting their models. Even people that don't promote anything else promote clickcash. Of course you see more people bitching because there are way more people potentially breaking TOS.

Add to the fact that clickcash will terminate your account as soon as they see you violate their rules and do not defend themselves when someone claims foul play. Anytime a webmaster screams about another company on here the owner or rep usually responds with all of the proof that that webmaster cheated. Clickcash just stays quiet and continues to pay those who follow the rules.

Have they ever made a mistake? Possibly, but you will never convince people who have promoted them for years that they are shady without proving anything. I have contacted support by email and phone multiple times and I always get an answer. So why do multiple people claim they get no response? Do they not only filter emails of certain people they also have caller ID and don't answer the phone unless it's the "elite" calling?

PLEASE :1orglaugh

will76 03-06-2006 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Young
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

How much more evidence, how many more threads do people need to read in order to know that they need to do their homework before signing up for this program. And you know what homework turns up??? Lets just say it's not good. And hardly any other programs have this problem that CC has...

I guess it's just a couple of people with vendettas, or better yet its one big huge GRAND CONSPIRACY against CC!!!!!

Please do not tell me what you are doing is not spin on their behalf....please.

You're presenting a favorable relationship with CC here on GFY...when in fact the majority of the relationships (so it seems) has been negative. At least from those who choose to speak up. You pop up in countless CC threads putting favorable spins on their actions.

Was that ok? Did I do ok? :1orglaugh
no, you failed. explain to me what i said that was not correct, and was just spin. I dont want to hear about fucking people doing their homework and other people's negative shit, you said i was doing spin, so exactly which post was spin? please try again to have an intelligent debate, discussion or whatever you want to call it.

will76 03-06-2006 11:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chadglni
The average startup program on GFY has a few hundred affiliates. Clickcash has 10's of thousands counting their models. Even people that don't promote anything else promote clickcash. Of course you see more people bitching because there are way more people potentially breaking TOS.

Add to the fact that clickcash will terminate your account as soon as they see you violate their rules and do not defend themselves when someone claims foul play. Anytime a webmaster screams about another company on here the owner or rep usually responds with all of the proof that that webmaster cheated. Clickcash just stays quiet and continues to pay those who follow the rules.

Have they ever made a mistake? Possibly, but you will never convince people who have promoted them for years that they are shady without proving anything. I have contacted support by email and phone multiple times and I always get an answer. So why do multiple people claim they get no response? Do they not only filter emails of certain people they also have caller ID and don't answer the phone unless it's the "elite" calling?

PLEASE :1orglaugh
I bet they have made mistakes, i am sure they made some no company is perfect and with their volume of webmasters it is bound to happen. You are 100% right about the not coming to the boards to defend themselves. when company XYZ gets a flame thread going, the owner or rep will come post their side of the story and everyone will go " ohhh i see" but when it comes to clickcash, there is no "two sides of the story" just the fool who is screaming and jumping up and down how he got ripped off and they stole his whole $80. The same fool that 9 out of 10 times didn't read the TOS to send in his paperwork. but people want to give this fool the benefit of the doubt and assume that a company gets off on terminating people for no reason, which makes NO LOGICAL SENSE. lets see, the more webmasters terminated the less money they make, someone explain to me why they want to make less money ???

Young 03-07-2006 12:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A Guide to creating a Will76 response
Mention that no company is perfect, everyone makes mistakes
Use "9 out of 10" in every one of your statistics
Mention the TOS over and over again failing to point out exactly where the complaintant may have violated the TOS
Mention "making money" over and over again...as if that is a substitute for business ethics.
If I wasn't so tired I'd come up with more. You sound like a fucking tape recorder dude. Same shit over and over again.

I have no bad experiences with CC but from what I read I am extremely hesitant to sign up with them...for good reason to.

I'm done arguing and I'm done with this thread. I just like to throw my :2 cents: around here and there.

Syl 03-07-2006 12:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76
the reason a lot of people likely don't hear back from them is because it says in the TOS, if you ask a question that is on the FAQ's page, then we will not reply to you. How many of you people actually read? I bet 9 out of 10 of the times they don't get back to you, your questions could be answered on their site. I don't blame them for doing this, you have 1000' of people emailing asking questions like, when do i get my check, do you pay epassporte, etc... i know i got a ton of those just from people who signed up under me. How hard is it to read. I got tired of answering the same questions over and over too.... read the tos, read the faq, then contact them.
Amazing..won't reply if the question being asked is in the FAQ?? This is very poor customer service. :2 cents:

will76 03-07-2006 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Young
If I wasn't so tired I'd come up with more. You sound like a fucking tape recorder dude. Same shit over and over again.

I have no bad experiences with CC but from what I read I am extremely hesitant to sign up with them...for good reason to.

I'm done arguing and I'm done with this thread. I just like to throw my :2 cents: around here and there.

thats not arguing, its called making shithead comments. Like a form of drive by bashing. Why don't you go get some rest and come back and point out what I said was spin. Pick 1 post, from my several here, anyone you want and lets debate if it is a logical, meaningfull reply, or just some stupid drive by comment.

will76 03-07-2006 12:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Syl
Amazing..won't reply if the question being asked is in the FAQ?? This is very poor customer service. :2 cents:
whats poor is that people can not read, if they tell you to read the FAQ and then you don't who is being poor. If they had to hire 100 people to answer all of the questions from all of the fools that can't follow simple instructions they would be paying me a lot less to hire those people. Also, if you can't follow simple instructions i think in most cases, you will be more trouble then what you are worth.

potter 03-07-2006 01:01 AM
damn will, you owned this thread!

JMP25 03-07-2006 01:03 AM
hi...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by teksonline
So like I been promoting these bastards for what 7 years now..

I look at my credit card info online the other day and see this $29.99
charge from them.. I'm like wtf??? I bought that stupid $6.95/m crap just so
once in every 9 years I can login and see what is available to promote
But wtf is this shit? So I email them right, ugh yeah you frauded me,
refund that shit..

So this morning I read my email, says they took care of it.

I go to log in my stats, account invalid

They TOS'd me, steal the weekly earnings (not sure how much but i usually have about 20 downline sales, and 4-10 regulars per week) and shut me down completely

WHAT A BUNCH OF ASSHOLE SCAM RAPERS

ANYONE WHO PROMOTES THESE COCK SUCKERS IS A FOOL!

AND WATCH YOUR FUCKING MONTHLIES!


OH YEAH, CHECK YOUR FUCKING INCOME TAX 10-99's THEY LOVE TO RAPE YOU ON THAT ADDING 10-20k ON IT DID THAT TO ME LAST YEAR!!!

FUCK YOU CLICK CASH!:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

Change Sponsor...

reginaldo 03-07-2006 02:23 AM
will is on fire... bump for not sending the tos link when someone asks a question thats answered in the tos....

Sofa King 03-07-2006 02:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by will76
FYI.... when you refer someone, you make 10% of what they make. So if they make $40, you make $4.

If that same person refers someone else and they make 1 signup, then he makes $4.00 and you make 10% of what they make so you make .40 .

nadanada 03-07-2006 02:45 AM
so will, have you ever tried any other cam programs?


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